Anyone try out Windows Vista yet?

rustybob · #1 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

I've had it for a while, but I've finally decided to install it tomorrow. Just wondering if anyone had any comments on how it is.

I'll post some comments tomorrow when she's up and running.

sh4un · #2 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

yah i was curious about how its running 2...
my main concern is drivers for my soundcard and crap
dont wanna install it and have conflict after conflict

elliot · #3 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

thats what spare partitions are for, kids. its nothing special. some nice eye candy.. but really lacking in the new functionality dept.
on an unrelated note, i tried ubuntu and it was not easy- but stupidly easy to get going.

rustybob · #4 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

Just finished installing Vista Ultimate, and it's different, that's for sure. Everything seems to be running fine so far, but it's going to take a while to get used to the new interface.

I'll post some more comments later.

**sNyx** · #5 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

bitT link?

rustybob · #6 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

Well, it looks like it took under an hour for the first crash of Vista. I think it took weeks before Windows XP crashed on me for the first time.

For whatever reason, WinAMP doesn't work in Vista, at least not the newest version. I got an older version 5 around somewhere, so we'll see if that works.

rustybob · #7 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

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Originally Posted by sNyx™

bitT link?

http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/has...53.TPB.torrent

Took me like a week and a half to get it though. I could just record you a copy instead. Has both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions as well.

rustybob · #8 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

Wow, I think I'm dropping Vista already. It's terrible.

anewlife · #9 (**permalink**) Dec 01, 06

I'd rather throw my money out of the window than to buy windows vista.

Even the bandwith to download a pirated copy would be wasted, no thx.

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Originally Posted by elliot

some nice eye candy.

Vista? Eye candy? Uhh...so what does it offer?

Seriously, i'm wondering!

Can it compete with xgl/beryl?

(which is what I'm using here)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOz8duTh-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ

I highly doubt so, but heh, fill me in! :)

Leviathan · #10 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

vista just got released and its already out of date, osx 10.5 will probably raise the bar again and be stable.

I'm dual booting osx and xp and also running ubuntu through virtualization in osx for doing embedded software. I keep my ubuntu image on my ipod, seems to work quite well.

FireWire · #11 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

Vista isn't bad but the problem in having it installed RIGHT NOW is that most hardware manufacturers haven't developed Vista compatible drivers for it yet. The OFFICIAL release date is Jan. 30th and that's the date most hardware manufacturers are shooting at getting their Vista compatible drivers done by.

Once it has all been OFFICIALLY released (ahem... not BT'ed...) - then it will be much more stable and will have full driver operation. I tested it myself for a bit - it is actually quite much improved over XP. I had to go back to XP though because I needed to have my DJing hardware working...

So like I said, don't bother getting it until the official release cause you will be out of luck for drivers at this time.

anewlife · #12 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

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Originally Posted by FireWire

Vista isn't bad

What is *not* bad about this?

*click*

and

*click*

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"I could not be more skeptical about the viability of the DRM included with Vista, from either a technical or a business standpoint," Rosoff stated. "It's so consumer-unfriendly that I think it's bound to fail -- and when it fails, it will sink whatever new formats content owners are trying to impose."

But have fun with the DRM hell...I'll happily pass! :)

Zêus · #13 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

Complete rip-off of OS X for Macs.

If you want to use a real computer, might as well buy an Apple.

rustybob · #14 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

All my drivers and most of my programs all work fine within Vista (except for Winamp for some reason, but I guess Media Player works), but it looks like SAMBA support is fucked in Vista. I have an external network hard drive that you connect with through SAMBA, and Vista sees it, but the second you try open/copy/etc., Explorer crashes.

I have an XP Home box right beside me, and that connects fine. Both the laptop and desktop see each other but, again, they won't network at all.

As soon as I find a XP Home OEM CD, it's back to XP.

clevich · #15 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

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Originally Posted by Zêus

Complete rip-off of OS X for Macs.

If you want to use a real computer, might as well buy an Apple.

as much as I love macosx, theres no way in hell I'm paying $5000 for some piece of shit desktop where I could spend 1/4 of that on a pc with the same specs.

All we need now is a legal version of osx (with the GUI) to be bootable on a pc.

Zêus · #16 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

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Originally Posted by clevich

as much as I love macosx, theres no way in hell I'm paying $5000 for some piece of shit desktop where I could spend 1/4 of that on a pc with the same specs.

All we need now is a legal version of osx (with the GUI) to be bootable on a pc.

Entry level mac desktop, brand new from apple: 599$

And it can run both OSX and Windows Vista.

Leviathan · #17 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 06

That price would be for their dual 3.0Ghz model. Dells prices are even more than Apple's prices for comparable workstations. Remember their desktops are workstations that use dual xeon processors.

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Originally Posted by clevich

as much as I love macosx, theres no way in hell I'm paying $5000 for some piece of shit desktop where I could spend 1/4 of that on a pc with the same specs.

All we need now is a legal version of osx (with the GUI) to be bootable on a pc.

FireWire · #18 (**permalink**) Dec 03, 06

I'm not saying it's the best, cause I think it's nothing compared to the latest Mac OS and some of the new Mac computers. Man, I would LOVE to own a G5... that's the SHIT when it comes to making electronic music. Although AMD64's are pretty sexy right now. But when the Intel Core Duo's come out and Apple starts using them for CPU - I won't have a choice but to start saving up for one of those Macs...

Leviathan · #19 (**permalink**) Dec 03, 06

Uhhhh Apple made the full switch to Intel quite some time ago now. The mac pros use two core 2 xenon processors. I just bought a macbook pro with a core 2 duo.

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Originally Posted by FireWire

I'm not saying it's the best, cause I think it's nothing compared to the latest Mac OS and some of the new Mac computers. Man, I would LOVE to own a G5... that's the SHIT when it comes to making electronic music. Although AMD64's are pretty sexy right now. But when the Intel Core Duo's come out and Apple starts using them for CPU - I won't have a choice but to start saving up for one of those Macs...

nabs · #20 (**permalink**) Dec 03, 06

i wonder if i can install vista on my mac??

Zêus · #21 (**permalink**) Dec 03, 06

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Originally Posted by nabs

i wonder if i can install vista on my mac??

If you own one of the new Intel Macs then you can install virtually an OS on it. I have a XP and OS X on mine, my friend has Linux on his as well.

You just need bootcamp, free off the apple webpage.

Leviathan · #22 (**permalink**) Dec 03, 06

you could but I think the the vista graphics card requirements might be too high for the macbooks. if I remember correctly the macbooks have an integrated graphics card.

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Originally Posted by nabs

i wonder if i can install vista on my mac??

anewlife · #23 (**permalink**) Dec 04, 06

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Originally Posted by nabs

i wonder if i can install vista on my mac??

lol, funny guy you are nabs o.O

clevich · #24 (**permalink**) Dec 04, 06

Vista will run on DX9c cards. You just wont be able to run all the fancy stuff that comes with dx10.

Levathian, I'm well aware that they're dual proc's... which is why I'm saying, I could get the same specs on a pc for 1/4 the price. I get warehouse prices. I've seen a couple hacks to have osx on a pc though.(without emulating it)

I couldn't settle for a macbook pro, technology changes too quickly and the worth/performance of it will depreciate significantly within a year. You can throw your video editing days away with a macbook pro, because you'll get nothing done on one of those!

G5 > Macbook Pro.

And as for rustybob,
Give the OS some time, you might be still using an RC2 compilation. Remember when XP first came out? what a shitstorm that was... I believe they did alot better with this version (vista), improved alot but won't be refined until later builds.

Leviathan · #25 (**permalink**) Dec 04, 06

^ your wrong.

You obviously don't know much about macs at all.

Check out these benchmarks on the old mac book pro vs the G5. Hell the new macbooks even outperform the G5 in some video editing tasks. The Macbook pro was made for Final Cut, thats why they come with firewire 800 interfaces.

As for depreciating, your wrong again. Go check out the prices of of the Core duo macbook pros vs the new core 2 duo machines. Apple hardware holds its value for probably 2 times if not 3 times as long as a regular PC.

http://www.digitalproducer.com/artic...e.jsp?id=43717