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Mar 10, 07
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Music Festivals - IMF vs Coachella?
Music Festivals should be more than just electronic music. It should be the celebration of all kinds of music. Vancouver's IMF festival has a fantastic 4 stages of electronic music, but what about other music? Compare it to something like Coachella in LA with live performances of Metal, Rock, Hip Hop and Alternative. Coachella also has amazing DJ talent like PVD, Tiesto, and Felix the House Cat!
What do you think. Would you enjoy all night music festivals more if they had live bands? Would IMF or Apex been busier and better with 1 stage with dedicated time for Live performances? Would it be justifiable to pay $100 for 1 night of entertainment if there was MORE entertainment? Also, world class events will have information booths or kiosks to sell music and fan fare. Why don't we have stuff like that to promote local events during these music festivals (apex and imf alike) or even local DJ's?? I'd liek to see a kiosk at APEX (because imf is a week away) that sold local dj sets for $5 a pop so I could find music from people outside of the circle of parties that I've run into. Buying CD's from Boomtown is OK... but you'd expect to find CD's where parties go as well. 
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Mar 10, 07
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IMO apex really never was a "music festival". Now I haven't been since 2001, but it was my understanding apex was an outdoor rave. I remember being taken aback seeing an ATM there in 2001. Now I understand that the very culture of "raving" has to do with evolution, but I don't think apex was ever even remotely attempting to go in the same direction as Coachella. I understood it as a cheap/free event thrown by local promotors banding together along with local talent to party with all the local people who party together all year long.
Have you noticed how there are never any out-of-town headliners?
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Mar 10, 07
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Well what I can tell you on this part is to simply "explore" as to what is out there... I've found myself in the catch up on various "scene"s throughout vancouver regardless as to what genre of music or artists. To give you an example... vancouver itself when you take a look at it as a whole has a HUGE IDM scene. You don't hear about it if you just focus on mainstream events. And even as huge as the IDM scene is in vancouver (as a whole) , it is divided into area's and is sprung out where one group may not even know another group existed in the city..
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I'd just like to discuss what we're missing in our own "music festivals" that we see elsewhere. I'm positive we do have events around which celebrate multiple facets of music. But none actually come to mind. I friggen LOVE the jazz fest. It is mainly jazz, but electronic music as wel. It's silly to say IMF is like jazzfest. But we can certainly compare and contrast.
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Mar 10, 07
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Mr. Ektion - thx for the Karma, but I guess I didn't make myself a little more clearer..... Even such events such as "Apex" it doesn't bring that same "circle" of groups together for one evening. To give you an example..... The people who would attend the original "trancemission" parties (No NOT Evolve), would most likely not be in attendance to go to Apex. I guess you can also say the same with Shambala almost... Like I put it before just go out and explore....
Giving a party a name of an event is the number 1 selling point for advertising it.... With Solid using I.M.F they ended up using a great marketing strategy, and that party sells out every year but really its no different then the other shows they pull off.... Its the name that sells :)
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Mar 10, 07
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if u want to compare it should be
Coachella vs. Shambhala it wouldnt come close cuz Coachella still kicks massive ass. But im saying Shambhala cuz its the only thing around our area that would even attempt to come close to Coachella. IMF is just another all night rave party. Last edited by nabs; Mar 10, 07 at 12:46 PM.
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Shambhala and Merritt Mountain are the only major Music Festivals we have in BC. Everything else is just a dance party or a concert. I suppose Folk Fests count too but those are always a lot lower key.
I heard Ozzfest this year was free. Might head to 'attle for that one. A bunch of my friends are doing Burning Man this year so I might tag along. Are they still doing those Fiji Mountain Music Festivals? Google's coming up blank and the closest thing I can find is a World Music Festival but that looks like more of a Folk-fest type deals. I remember a couple years back looking up these Festivals that were like 4 days and a ridiculous number of stages. Think of it like Coachella with 4 times as many bands/djs/live PAs.
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raves in vancouver are shit amongst shit, cannot even be grouped into the category as other parties out there IMF is just a cash grab.
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Apex and Coachella are two totally different directions....
IMF and Apex in the same sentence? Two totally different parties, with two totally different focuses... The only way IMF is a festival is in name sake. Lawrence - are you smoking something you shouldn't be...seriously.
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Mar 10, 07
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Yikes. I'm obviously not saying that IMF is Coachella. I could've used other examples but I used IMF because it's soon and has the word festival in the title. And Coachella because it's an amazing friggen party on the west coast that i consider the cream of the crop. I'm OBVIOUSLY not saying that IMF is as huge as coachella.
All I'm asking is, what is a show like IMF missing that other Music Festivals like WEMF, the Burning Man, Shambalah and MMM Festival have. Since you're all experts and feel so offended when I compare IMF to Coachella it must be easy to explain. And guys. It's not like I didn't know that IMF is a rave. And your welcome for the karma. i just liked your response.
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Mar 10, 07
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Shambhala Or Bust!!!!!!!!!
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Compare the 10 last shows that Solid, and several other promoters in this city have done. Maybe I am being picky, but seriously, the line ups seem the same to me, all the time. The same acts are being brought out over and over again to different shows. Not to mention, the additional activities, sites and features at places like Burning Man, Coachella and WMC.
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Mar 10, 07
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okok. like Burning man has square miles of music of all kinds, stages, art, a giant wooden structure that they burn at the end. Costumes, bartering, over 50,000 people... Umm... I think Coachella is just multi-dayed, outdoor with camping, and more than just electronic music. I actually don't know all that much about the roots. But I'd like to know. And... WMF? Fill me in! That's why I'm asking! Last edited by Mr Ektion; Mar 10, 07 at 04:18 PM.
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As for those unable to make it to Coachella this year, The Sasquatch Festival across the border has a stellar line up this year....
Sasquatch Music Festival 2007: Saturday, May 26th: Bjork The Arcade Fire Manu Chao Radio Bemba Sound System M.I.A. Citizen Cope Neko Case The Hold Steady Grizzly Bear Ghostland Observatory Electrelane Two Gallants The Slip Loney, Dear Aqueduct The Thermals Viva Voce The Blow Gabriel Teodros Sunday, May 27th: Beastie Boys Interpol Michael Franti & Spearhead Spoon Bad Brains Ozomatli Dandy Warhols The Black Angels Mirah Tokyo Police Club Money Mark St. Vincent Jesse Sykes & The Sweet Hereafter Smoosh Common Market Helio Sequence Minus The Bear With more acts to be announced.
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Shambhala has music, vendors, costumes, and different environments all in the same party. You could start the day listening to reggae on a beach, make your way up to vendor alley and buy a new locally designed out fit to wear that night. then you have what basically amounts to 3 super clubs at night. each year that you come back major improvements and changes have been made. Shambhala has essentially become a living growing entity... you can buy food 24 hours a day of basically any type you can imagine. you also spend 5 days in the same place which allows an amazing atmosphere to build up. in recent years the camp sites have started to become very elaborate and I have a feeling this year will be a sort of break through for awesome camps. we have some pretty cool ideas that we're rocking this year.
IMF is a party with 4 rooms of basically the same music (all electronic for the most part) and not much else. see the difference?
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