pet owners - food recall

[djmarymac]

a HUGE recall on a lot of different brands of foods being manufactured in Ontario that are linked to deaths.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/bu...=5070&emc=eta1

[esoter1c]

I'd never feed my dog that by-product filled shit.

Dogs/cats won't produce 1/2 the dander if you feed them good food.

So many people have dogs/cats that are just allergy machines.

[.muffy.]

I just forwarded this to some of my friends/family that are all pet lovers like myself.
Thanks for posting this :)

[Carrie]

my cats seem to not like this turkey kibble. they eat it cause they are hungry but they don't chow down..

I like this because this way they don't get all fat on me.

[miss.myra]

Two people I know have had their pets pass away prematurely because of this, I can't imagine the impact it may have. Regardless of what you feed your pet and why it makes you a good person, this is still pretty sad. Yeah some of the foods like Iams might be crap, but it still won't normally cause a healthy 5 year old cat to die of kidney failure.

I would recommend giving this link to anyone you know who has had a pet pass away recently..I can see a class action lawsuit a brewin!

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

I'd never feed my dog that by-product filled shit.

Dogs/cats won't produce 1/2 the dander if you feed them good food.

So many people have dogs/cats that are just allergy machines.

what should we feed them

[LEEROY CHANG!!]

HAHA YUM MORE DOG TO EAT

[LEEROY CHANG!!]

PUGS CAN GO STRAIGHT TO GARBAGE THO

[djmarymac]

class action lawsuits filed: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0..._foods_lawsuit

[djmarymac]

the magic ingredient has been revealed. poor pets :(

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...od-recall.html

[Carrie]

my cats are healthy and happy..

I checked the list and I don't feed them anything that was recalled.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by Gunter S

what should we feed them

REAL FOOD.

My dog eats chicken breast, brown rice, carrots, yams and potatoes. She also has a bowlful of holistic, organic crunchies that are human consumption quality. For treats she gets all-natural peanut butter and molasses cookies. Just like humans, the healthier animals eat and the more exercise they get, the longer they will live.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by thebobman

First off, demerits for using the term 'holistic' in a post, futher demerits for using organic in the same point, even more for having both terms in the same sentance, and even MORE for having them side by side.

Secondly, your dog doesn't have the same god-damned digestive system you have. Your digestive system has evolved over hundreds, if not thousands, of years, as has your dogs. Just because your dog LIKES human food doesn't mean you should give it to her. Christ, that's like the most basic fact of pet care.

I was going to write your post off as totally worthless, but you nearly redeemed yourself with a decent, common sense closing sentance; The healthier your pet is fed and the more exercise they get, the longer they will live. Now all you've got to do is recognize that healthy food for your dog is not human food.

So you suggest that instead of feeding dogs well-balanced meals that include all the essentials for them to be healthy we should instead feed them pre-packaged crap that is made from the pieces of "meat" (if you can even call it that) that are rejected for human consumption?

Our breeder feeds all of her dogs homemade dog food. As do the three vets we consulted before even purchasing my dog. It's safe to say that my dog's breeder and her vets definitely know a whole hell of a lot more about her digestive system and what types of foods she should eat than you do.

As a kid my family had a prize-winning doberman. We made all of her food at home and anything storebought was all natural, no preservatives, organic, etc. She lived to be 16 and had three healthy litters of pups. It's extremely rare for purebreeds to live that long, and our vets credited her long life to her diet.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by thebobman

What the fuck are you on? Did you see the words "pieces of meat" or "pre-packaged" anywhere in my post? No, no you friggin' didn't. Because I didn't SAY THAT. Christ, you know what? You missed the whole goddamned point of what I was saying. Feed your friggin' dog whatever you want.

Well, if I currently feed her "human food" and you are suggesting that I should not do that, then you are implying that I should feed her "dog food". "Dog food" is prepackaged crap that is made from meat that would never be considered for human consumption.

My dog is fed a balanced diet based on her breed, period. What qualifies you as an expert on the subject? Like I said, I'll trust my breeder and vets opinions over some guy on the internet who can't even get through a post without cursing and getting all huffy.

And, for the record, I never suggested that one should feed his/her dog "human food", I said "real food", as in not pre-packaged, low quality, junk. It's not like I said to feed dogs sandwiches and soda pop!

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by thebobman

You missed the whole goddamned point of what I was saying.

That would be because you didn't HAVE a point to begin with.

[galaxie]

^ haha. You said yourself that dogs digestive systems have evolved over thousands of years. Certain types of dogs have never been "wild" and are therefore accustomed to eating a wide range of foods.

[decypher]

That's horrible about the menu foods thing. The whole trust factor that people put into these companies just to find out they are feeding their pets rat poison. My pup was on kibble and i had nothing but problems with dandruff, gas, bloating, over-waste. I switched her to raw diet of 75% veg/25% meat mixtures and uncooked buffalo meat bones twice a week for her teeth. I've had nothing but good results.

For bobman, i don't see what the problem is with people feeding their pets all natural unprocessed food. As long as you're calculating the right amounts of nutrition from the right groups of food and staying away from cooked bones and other dog no no's then i don't see the problem. Why is processed canned food and useless grains better?

[Mr Ektion]

The worst thing about this is that the news got out a little late and there are so many dogs affected by this before owners could do anything. I think it was traces of toxic rat poison that is causing liver failure in dogs. Originally it was bad packaging? or something?

And because of the toxicity of the component that's being found there's no cure. Just very permanently sick doggies that will need to spend months recovering. Older dogs don't have it so easy.

[Mr Ektion]

Originally Posted by thebobman

"Certain dogs have never been wild"? Heh.... ha ah .... HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! If they weren't wild are you gonna try and tell me their ancestors were dependant on chimps? Evolution didn't just START when people were capable of domesticating animals. There's a few million years before that to account for.

You were bent out of shape by her using Holistic. Now you're just bringing up stupid arguements.

Not every dog is treated equal. But a dog can eat a piece of meat or chicken (based on the canned food discussion) whether it's in a can or made by a loving care taker. Dogs can and will eat just about anything. If their stomach doesn't agree with it because they lack the enzyme their body will refuse it with liquidy shit. And of course, everyone started off being wild. But I think Galaxie's point is that some dogs (or breeds of dogs) have been in captivity for a thousand years. Sure dogs "in the wild" would eat small animals or just about anything they can scavenge. But domesticated dogs generally eat out of cans or the cereal "dog food" that is cheaper and more economic than human food. Of course.

why don't you get off her back. It's not profoundly wrong to grill a little bit of chicken for your dog if you are opposed to giving him canned food. Just because you don't want to cook your dog a little food that doesn't mean others don't.

[PwInCeSs]

Some lady was affected by this, apparently she ate some to convince her pet to do so aswell :|

[thebobman]

Originally Posted by Mr Ektion

You were bent out of shape by her using Holistic. Now you're just bringing up stupid arguements.

Not every dog is treated equal. But a dog can eat a piece of meat or chicken (based on the canned food discussion) whether it's in a can or made by a loving care taker. Dogs can and will eat just about anything. If their stomach doesn't agree with it because they lack the enzyme their body will refuse it with liquidy shit. And of course, everyone started off being wild. But I think Galaxie's point is that some dogs (or breeds of dogs) have been in captivity for a thousand years. Sure dogs "in the wild" would eat small animals or just about anything they can scavenge. But domesticated dogs generally eat out of cans or the cereal "dog food" that is cheaper and more economic than human food. Of course.

why don't you get off her back. It's not profoundly wrong to grill a little bit of chicken for your dog if you are opposed to giving him canned food. Just because you don't want to cook your dog a little food that doesn't mean others don't.

I wouldn't have said shit if she hadn't tried to put words into my mouth. I never said pre-packaged food was better than home made stuff. Having said that, Galaxie, apologies for going ballistic at you over this. You honestly sound like you have a decent grasp of what constitutes proper diet for your dog. Truthfully I did get bent outta shape when I read 'holistic, organic crunchies'. Mr Ektion, thx for giving me some perspective.

[djmarymac]

so there's another recall, this time on a 'prescription' dry food.

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...od-070330.html