have u ever been in love?

[rawb]

Originally Posted by Gusto

but there are mutual divorces with happy endings.

IS THAT LIKE A MASSAGE WITH A HAPPY ENDING

[Gusto]

haha i almost put happy ending in quotes, but i figured someone would pipe up with that if i did. guess it didn't matter.

[veN]

Originally Posted by Lush

I think not being able to fully define love is what makes it beautiful, it's one of those things that you just know.

It's strange though I think growing up helps you understand yourself more and I find the older I get the more capable I am of actually loving a person the way I should, only because I've finally reached a point in my life where I'm comfortable enough with myself.

That being said I've also realized that perhaps some of the emotions I faced when I was younger were merely infatuation. I think there's a certain level of maturity that needs to be attained before you can fully be capable of loving another individual in a romantic sense.

I can completely relate to this, Shadi. And you said it so eloquently.

[yoko*]

Originally Posted by rawb

I WILL STAY WITH A GIRL AS LONG AS SHE KEEPS SENDING ME TO BONERTOWN

this is very touching, rawb.

Originally Posted by Revolver

i understand completely what your saying.

but the thing is during courtship i would suss out the potential of that happening. i know myself, im not violent, a drunkard or a cheat and have been instilled strong morals by my strong family so violence and such wont come from my side and i dont think it woud come from the mate that i would choose.

the unhappiness thing is abit trickier.keep communication open and i think that could be avoided. there is therepy and couples councilling to help such woes.

but, the key is to find a mate with the same family morals that i have. once that happends %50 of all the uncertainty is take care of....the rest is taken care of in the bedroom lol

Revolver,

Call me a sceptic but I don't think it's possible to guarantee for ourselves a happy union of any sort no matter how rigid our "selection process" and no matter how well our social upbringing or how "Strong" our family values.

Also, to suggest that strong family values and morals are related to success in marriage is actually an unjustified and judgemental view of those whose marriages have "failed". Whether or not you realize it, your statements suggest that successful marriages are based on strong values and "solid" upbringing and that those who have divorced from their partners don't possess those qualities, and that is untrue.

Sometimes shit just doesn't work out no matter what your values or upbringing.

I think in successful marriages there does play part a certain degree of "good luck". Not that it's all left to chance, but no matter how compatible or complimentary a couple may be, I think there will be some challenging bumps in the road that could potentially threaten any supposedly happy union.

[Kraig]

^^ Damn... nicely put there Miss Yoko!

[Lush]

^^^ I can vaguely recall us having a similar discussion at Subeez before the CSS concert.

We are so overdue for another one of those nights!

[veN]

Originally Posted by Lush

^^^ I can vaguely recall us having a similar discussion at Subeez before the CSS concert.

We are so overdue for another one of those nights!

YESSSSSSSSS! Let's get thru midterms, and then plan for a grand evening. My last one is Friday <3

[Lush]

^ haha no kidding! I have 4 next week - basically i'm screwed

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

yo, does tossing someones salad mean you're in love with them?

I wouldn't say that just tossing a single salad really indicates love.. but little things like the occasional meal prepared by a significant other, (salad or otherwise), can, when added up, be a big factor in two people appreciating each others' company over the long term.

What?

Why is everyone looking at me like that?

[veN]

^ Good luck missy!!

[Grapes]

** 1920s newscaster voiceover**

DATELINE! October 10th, 2007!

The world waits with baited breath as FnK remains unable to come up with a definition of the ever-elusive meaing of "love". Looks like this feisty group of ravers and cynics got more than they bargained for! Yes, a real can of worms has been opened up, and no-one seems know where to find the lid!

Just look at them furrow their brows, and tap away at their "key-boards"! You might say the only thing these niggling naysayers really "love" is the sound of their own voices!

[Prissypants]

Real love, in my experience, is the ability to want the best for the person you love even though that may mean losing them.

[ebbomega]

I thought I was in love once, turns out it was just bad gas.

[Lush]

^^^^ same to you!

[robyn]

nd basically sums up all my feelings right here:

People might say that YOU WILL KNOW because sparkly rainbows and birds will fly around your head and scream it in your ear, but dude, those are the same people who are trying to get you to buy greeting cards.

Even if there were trombones and rabbits and confetti and all that, you could still get the shaft in 10 years. That's why life is awesome.

http://www.nataliedee.com/asknatalie120705.php

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by yoko*

Revolver,

Call me a sceptic but I don't think it's possible to guarantee for ourselves a happy union of any sort no matter how rigid our "selection process" and no matter how well our social upbringing or how "Strong" our family values.

Also, to suggest that strong family values and morals are related to success in marriage is actually an unjustified and judgemental view of those whose marriages have "failed". Whether or not you realize it, your statements suggest that successful marriages are based on strong values and "solid" upbringing and that those who have divorced from their partners don't possess those qualities, and that is untrue.

Sometimes shit just doesn't work out no matter what your values or upbringing.

I think in successful marriages there does play part a certain degree of "good luck". Not that it's all left to chance, but no matter how compatible or complimentary a couple may be, I think there will be some challenging bumps in the road that could potentially threaten any supposedly happy union.

ok, read my post again but this time very carefully. i use terms like "i think" and "my" and "i" was talking out of a personal veiw and outlook that i have based on my upbringing. nowhere did i generalize on specifics on how things should be.

you did that for me..

[starbright]

Originally Posted by robyn

nd basically sums up all my feelings right here:




http://www.nataliedee.com/asknatalie120705.php

haha
did you know she has a youtube channel!?
her and toothpastedrew are my creative idols when i want to give up on saving the world. like, i could just smoke weed all day, draw some stick figures and make videos of my little dog for the rest of my days...

[kiMMie]

EVERYDAY! :P

[Drazkers]

I love lamp... I love lamp

[PwInCeSs]

Originally Posted by R Wellbelove

^ "you must love your self before you can love another"


I think the way ppl fall in love is no different as it was in the old days whether it be infatuation of a match made in heaven. But what I find so strange is that nowadays we date more ppl and take much longer before we "find the one". Instead of finding the one (often the first) at age 20-25... we now "find the one" between ages 25-35 (after many tries/lovers)

So how come nowadays the divorce rate is so much higher than in the olden days?

I think a lot of people just dont take marriage as serious as they use to. "Sure I love you, but if it doesn't work out we can always get a divorce".

In your vows you promise to be there for one an other in sickness and in health. Yet the majority of marriages that have a partner go through cirvic/prostate cancer end up getting divorced?

I agree its wierd how the divorce rate has gone up, and so has the age of marriage, witch again, everyone makes comments about people marrying young and how it wont work out, but when it comes down to it it isnt your age.
Alot of people are waiting longer and longer to get married, ive noticed with 2 people i know who waited 6 years to get engaged (the other waited 8 i think) Finally got married after 8 years and 9 years, both of them were seperated befor they hit the 8 month mark.
Now that may not mean anything, but maybe some people just think its the next logical step so they go in that direction then it all turns to hell.

Yes the divorce rate is scray, but its not a reason to not get married IF its something you want in life. I wasnt about to not walk down the aisle because 50% of canadians get divorced, to me its not worth screwing up my happiness.
Nothing in life is a gaurantee<3

[PwInCeSs]

People are forgetting what marriage is about because they all over shadow it with divorce.
Yes it happens,
what about the other 50% of people, who have been together for most of there lives, still are happy as ever with grandchildren, great grandchildren and love all around them.
But the society we live in forgets about the love and happiness, and focuses on the negative.

[Mr Ektion]

IMO, love is a giant puzzle. The number of pieces is undefined and forever growing as you mature. The tough part is understanding what the picture of your puzzle is and the pieces you are missing that you are looking for in someone else. At one point in your life your view of your puzzle (love) may be vivid; but specific experiences could alter your picture for better or worse. We're always re-evaluating the pieces we need whether those pieces are your companions or lovers, to complete your own puzzle. Understanding, Tolerance, Respect, Loyalty, etc.... shape all the working pieces of the puzzle.

The idea is... every aspect of your relationship needs to fit.. or at least YOU have to have the effort to make the pieces that don't piece together work. This is atleast what I see in older married couples. Our generation just doesn't apply the effort required.

Love is critical in marriage as you are basically combining your puzzle with someone elses. When the marriage doesn't work you can't blame it on one thing or another... The pieces just might not fit. But i agree, people aren't valuing the sanctity (sp?) of marriage anymore. As chris rock put it, you're only as loyal as your options. Marriage is supposed to be a committment to another person saying, hey.... we really fit and i think i'm okay not looking around anymore because you fulfill my hunger for the pursuing of another mate.

Somtimes when you are in a relationship you get attracted to someone else and that smashes the puzzle of a relationship you're already in... So until you know what your picture of love is.... you won't ever find love. The search does begin with knowing yourself though. And we'll never all agree on the essence of love because... well... some of us have broken puzzle pieces and aren't willing to fix it.

i'll have to proof read this later...

[rawb]

I KNOCKED UP 3 GIRLS BUT KNEW IT WASNT THE RIGHT TIME WITH ANY OF THEM, BUT I AM GLAD I WAITED TO FALL IN LOVE WITH A CHICK WHO WASNT SO NEEDY

[rawb]

ALSO THEY GOT ALL FAT

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by Drazkers

I love lamp... I love lamp

Do you REALLY love the lamp or are you just saying you love it because you see it?