gangsta's in vancouver

[Big R]

is there a sudden rise in gangsta's in vancouver?

or are they just now getting attention from the media?




ps:
appearently a ms-13 gang member was staring down one of my friends in the sky train yesterday.

[meth0dical]

i think theres the same amount of gangsters on the streets, they're just becoming more violent while trying to establish who is going to be running the show.

[-evil-duerr-]

justin timberlake is showing timbaland the ropes of being a gangsta.

it includes lots of hugs and making hip hop jingles about happy meals.

[Revolver]

pffft....they ve always been here.

i grew up in surrey.there was always talk of this gang or that gang, always deeling weed and stolen cars that type of thing...

a friend of mine from highschool was shot a few years ago.

he was a really nice guy.never would hang out with him but we always had fun and joked together in the classes we had.

he played the game and lived the life and it caught up to him.....

media just needs a good story to boost ratings cuase everyone is inside now watching tv cause of the weather. there have been gang-related shootings every year correct me if im wrong.

but these latest ones are pretty big and highprofile.

and big r is it true your like 11 or something or are you just a troll?

[impure]

with growth comes violence

[Drazkers]

Its a new shooting every year, the media says the gangsters are taking over and then 3 months later they report how crime has declined drastically or how the government is making great strides for the winter olympics.

[Senior]

I think gang violence is on the rise not to say it hasn't always been there.

more powerful gangs means more disputes basically.

[Senior]

oh and the answer to this all is very simple. we need to legalize and tax weed. what we are seeing is simply the result of prohibition. the only thing is I feel ripped off because we don't have any gangster nearly as cool as Al Capone to show for it all.

[NinjaBoy]

Gang and youth violence is not on the rise.

Lazy reporting and sensationalizing media reports are on the rise however.

[Phrenetic]

In the 4 years that I have lived here I have never seen what the media calls a "ganster". Either its just a persons clothing style, or the attitute or a little bit of both. I know people that if you saw them on the street you would be very scared, but if you would sit down and talk to them there the most easy going and open minded people you could emagine.

The people the media classifies as thugs or gangsters are younger kids like my cousin who are generally insecure and need to put on a testosterone act of Male posturing and walks in order to feel accepted and this usually involves selling drugs and fighting to re-enfoce that act.

Im not going to blame the drugs and the easy accessability to that, i blame the big brothers; the media and other influences, kids want to be like fifty cent, scareface, get rich or die trying. most of it is a fase but sometimes kids take it too far. You and your peers pressure eachother and Male attitudes erupt.

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

In the 4 years that I have lived here I have never seen what the media calls a "ganster". Either its just a persons clothing style, or the attitute or a little bit of both. I know people that if you saw them on the street you would be very scared, but if you would sit down and talk to them there the most easy going and open minded people you could emagine.

The people the media classifies as thugs or gangsters are younger kids like my cousin who are generally insecure and need to put on a testosterone act of Male posturing and walks in order to feel accepted and this usually involves selling drugs and fighting to re-enfoce that act.

Im not going to blame the drugs and the easy accessability to that, i blame the big brothers; the media and other influences, kids want to be like fifty cent, scareface, get rich or die trying. most of it is a fase but sometimes kids take it too far. You and your peers pressure eachother and Male attitudes erupt.

Most 'real gangsters' tend to be pretty low key and are often very intelligent/open minded people operating credit card fraud, identity theft, drug smuggling across the border etc. most I find are very nice people, but when you have ties.. and somebody steals from you or fucks you over, then shit goes down.

Then there's the wannabes, who listen to a lil too much 50 cent and get in fights to prove how thug they are. possibly sell dime bags for somebody who is too smart for the petty stuff.

i wouldn't blame media for anything.. gang violence tends to happen when you get in a fight or steal from the wrong person.

i know a guy in a chinese gang and he got in a pretty minor fight in a club, and the guy came back with like 4 guys and 6 of the chinese guys all got stabbed...... over nothing really.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by Drazkers

3 months later they report how crime has declined drastically or how the government is making great strides for the winter olympics.

lol.

yeah would someone please think of the olympics? if we don't get the crime situation under control, it could drastically effect everyone's enjoyment of professional figure skating.

PRIORITIES PEOPEL!!!

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Senior

oh and the answer to this all is very simple. we need to legalize and tax weed. what we are seeing is simply the result of prohibition. the only thing is I feel ripped off because we don't have any gangster nearly as cool as Al Capone to show for it all.

yeah, that's a great idea if you ignore the fact that all the money that these guys are fighting over is generated by sales of weed to the united states. Its an export crop its not canadian consumption funding this violence.

[omega_image]

lets get this out of the way first. i love weed, but legalizing it is not going to cut down on gangs or violence, in fact it'll probably increase it. if weed is taken away, they will be forced to move to cocaine or meth, which will make the deals bigger along the risk, etc.

anyways, on to gang violence. no rise, just getting bigger attention since the targets are a bit high profiled than normal.

new gangs aren't respecting the rules, and are fucking shit up for everyone. as such, in the next few months, we're either going to be hearing a few more shots, or none at all.

either way, it'll get dealt with quick and then be silenced.

[dj_soo]

fucking newbies

[Phrenetic]

most of these kids the news was talking about wouldnt know the hood was if it came up and bit them in the ass

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

In the 4 years that I have lived here I have never seen what the media calls a "ganster". Either its just a persons clothing style, or the attitute or a little bit of both. I know people that if you saw them on the street you would be very scared, but if you would sit down and talk to them there the most easy going and open minded people you could emagine.

It goes the other way. Someone who looks like a normal, healthy human being may very well be a local cocaine czar.

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. A person can live in New York their entire lives without meeting a single person in the Italian Mafia, does that mean that it doesn't exist, or that it isn't a major crime force in NYC?

There's been about 4 major gang incidents in the last 3 months this year. The interesting thing that nobody in The Province or The Sun (the two alarmist newspapers ringing the whole GANG WAR headlines all over the place, incidentally both owned by the same company) is really looking at the per-capita crime rates, rather than the overall ones. This city is growing, and with more people comes more crime.

[Phrenetic]

Is the guy in the suit a busness man? or a local kingpin?

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

Is the guy in the suit a busness man? or a local kingpin?

is the kid making these posts actually retarded or just abnormally stupid?

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

is the kid making these posts actually retarded or just abnormally stupid?

perhaps a bit of both.

[impure]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

most of these kids the news was talking about wouldnt know the hood was if it came up and bit them in the ass

would you?

ever been to inglewood?

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by Big R

appearently a ms-13 gang member was staring down one of my friends in the sky train yesterday.

MS-13 Gang - Mara Salvatrucha 13

[Lil Jenna]

I’ve lost many friends to the "gangster" life style. Now I pray that I don't open up the paper one day to read that they have been shot dead.

They have always been around, and always will be. The public killings will either get worse or we won’t hear anything for a few months.

[-evil-duerr-]

on a serious note. some friends of mine are involved in that crap...

it's really scary when they tell me that tensions are rising between the different groups..
One day they'll seem on top of the world, all their "debtors" have payed up so everythings bright and sunny. Then the next day you see these tough guys have a look in their eyes like most people do not get to see.
What do you do when a guy comes to you because he is afraid of losing his life.. but you cannot get involved because you do not want to lose your own? All you can do is tell them the obvious, but they'll do what they want to do.

it's unfortunate.

[Lil Jenna]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

Then the next day you see these tough guys have a look in their eyes like most people do not get to see.
What do you do when a guy comes to you because he is afraid of losing his life.. but you cannot get involved because you do not want to lose your own? All you can do is tell them the obvious, but they'll do what they want to do.

it's unfortunate.

And a lot of times they will give up what is important... friendships, boyfriends, girlfriends, family... because they are so caught up in their world of drugs, violence and money.

Its sad, even heartbreaking and very unfortunate.