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I can't copy and paste with my phone, but if you go to the abc website there are a lot of interesting reactions to the interview. Some ppl didn't think he asked tough enough questions. Others thought he was picking on her and would have gone a lot easier if Obama was the one being interviewed. (a commented pointed out that Gibson has been just as tough if not tougher on Obama in previous interviews)
A surprisingly large number of the comments were about how ducking crazy she seemed in the interview-especially on regards to her comments about Russia, NATO, and The Bush Doctrine. Someone post a link to the abc website. Huffingtonpost.com should be quite hilarious today as well. Speaking of, there's a really funny video out there that features Chuck Norris and Arianna Huffington on larry king live. It's so funny. Chuck Norris seems just as crazy as Palin in the clip. I wish I could copy and paste with this phone. Last edited by diva; Sep 12, 08 at 08:56 AM. 
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i would totally hammer on her!
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Boston Globe: "Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said yesterday that she had no hesitation about becoming John McCain's running mate, confident that she has the experience in world affairs to take over the presidency despite acknowledging that she has never met a foreign head of state."
New York Times: "At times visibly nervous, at others appearing to hew so closely to prepared answers that she used the exact same phrases repeatedly, Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of 'anticipatory self-defense.' OOOOOUCHY!
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thats awesome.
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it was a slaughter
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ive been waiting for a chance to share this link.
this is a website i read everyday. now mostly the writer does not speak about politics as it causes too much grief, but it was an interesting read no less. she is clearly a democrat and she speaks of her fear of sarah palin getting into office. the post itself is not what caught my attention but the comments left by dems and republicans. even the republicans who have now switched to dem as a result of her boost into the running. dooce posted in a later post that she had death threats as a result of her views. it is a very long read, but the comments, even several pages in, are amazing. the ones that stuck out were that democrats were clearly an uneducated lot that should not be allowed to vote as they are just too stupid. america is an amazing and appalling place all at the same time. And... boom | dooce ®
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Yeah, her handling of why people dislike America is pretty awful.
I'm tired of these politicians saying that Islamic militants perform acts of terrorism because they hate America. That's not it at all. 9/11 was about getting Saddam Hussein (a leader that tbh most of the Iraqi people wanted in power) thrown out of Iraq and replaced with an unpopular military occupation, so that it becomes easier to overthrow said government because the general populous will back you. And the Americans played right into it.
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sarah palin-drill and kill mu fuckas!
i should put that on a t-shirt.
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Honestly they should go back to hiding her from the media. She can't really handle it. I expect this to be one of the few interviews she ever does. But it will also fuel the right wing rage against the "liberal media elite" so her bombing the interview is pretty much a good thing. Spin is awesome.
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john, you should read back in dooce througgh the years, it's the best blog ever :)
edit - transcript of the interview is here ABC News: EXCERPTS: Charlie Gibson Interviews Sarah Palin Last edited by miss.myra; Sep 12, 08 at 01:59 PM.
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Sadly, this article outlines why Palin, no matter what blunders she commits, is still highly beneficial to McCain as a running mate:
"Sarah Palin has arrived in our midst with the force of a rocket-propelled grenade. She has boosted John McCain's candidacy and overwhelmed the presidential process in a way that no vice-presidential pick has since Thomas Eagleton did the precise opposite — sinking his sponsor, George McGovern, in 1972. Obviously, something beyond politics is happening here. We don't really know Palin as a politician yet, whether she is wise or foolhardy, substantive or empty. Our fascination with her — and it is a nonpartisan phenomenon — is driven by something more primal. The Palin surge illuminates the mythic power of the Republican Party's message since the advent of Ronald Reagan. To start with the obvious, she's attractive. Her husband ("And two decades and five children later, he's still my guy...") is a hunk. They have a gorgeous family, made more touching and credible by the challenges their children face. Her voice is more distinctive than her looks: that flat, northern twang that screams, I'm just like you! Actually, the real message is: I'm just like you want to be, a brilliantly spectacular...average American. The Palins win elections and snowmobile races in a state that represents the last, lingering hint of that most basic Huckleberry Finn fantasy — lighting out for the territories. She quoted Westbrook Pegler, the F.D.R.-era conservative columnist, in her acceptance speech: "We grow good people in our small towns..." And then added, "I grew up with those people. They're the ones who do some of the hardest work in America, who grow our food and run our factories and fight our wars. They love their country in good times and bad, and they're always proud of America." Except that's not really true. We haven't been a nation of small towns for nearly a century. It is the suburbanites and city dwellers who do the fighting and hourly-wage work now, and the corporations who grow our food. But Palin's embrace of small-town values is where her hold on the national imagination begins. She embodies the most basic American myth — Jefferson's yeoman farmer, the fantasia of rural righteousness — updated in a crucial way: now Mom works too. Palin's story stands with one foot squarely in the nostalgia for small-town America and the other in the new middle-class reality. She brings home the bacon, raises the kids — with a significant assist from Mr. Mom — hunts moose and looks great in the process. I can't imagine a more powerful, or current, American Dream. Nearly 50 years ago, in The Burden of Southern History, the historian C. Vann Woodward argued that the South was profoundly different from the rest of America because it was the only part of the country that had lost a war: "Southern history, unlike American...includes not only an overwhelming military defeat but long decades of defeat in the provinces of economic, social and political life." Woodward believed that this heritage led Southerners to be more obsessed with the past than other Americans were — at its worst, in popular works like Gone With the Wind, there was a gagging nostalgia for a courtly antebellum South that never really existed. During the past 50 years, the rest of the country has caught up to the South in the nostalgia department. We lost a war in Vietnam; Iraq hasn't gone so well either. And there are two other developments that have cut into the sense of American perfection. The middle class has begun to lose altitude — there isn't the certainty anymore that our children will live better than we do. More important, the patina of cultural homogeneity that camouflaged 1950s suburbia has vanished. We have become more obviously multiracial. There are lifestyle choices that were nearly unimaginable in 1960 — the widespread use of the birth control pill, the legalization of abortion, the feminist and gay-rights revolutions, the breakdown of the two-parent family. With the advent of television, these changes became inescapable. They intruded upon the most traditional families in the smallest towns. The political impact was a conservative reaction of enormous vehemence. Enter Reagan. His vision of the future was the past. He offered the temporal pleasures of tax cuts and an unambiguous anticommunism, but his real tug was on the heartstrings — it was "Morning in America." The Republican Party of Wall Street faded before the power of nostalgia for Main Street...at least a Main Street that existed before America began losing wars, became ostentatiously sexy and casually interracial. In his presidential debate with Jimmy Carter, Reagan talked about an America that existed "when I was young and when this country didn't even know it had a racial problem." The blinding whiteness and fervent religiosity of the party he created are an enduring testament to the power of the myth of an America that existed before we had all these problems. The power of Sarah Palin is that she is the latest, freshest iteration of that myth. The Republican Party's subliminal message seems stronger than ever this year because of the nature of the Democratic nominee for President. Barack Obama could not exist in the small-town America that Reagan fantasized. He's the product of what used to be called miscegenation, a scenario that may still be more terrifying than a teen daughter's pregnancy in many American households. Furthermore, he has thrived in the culture and economy that displaced Main Street America — an economy where people no longer work in factories or make things with their hands, but where lawyers and traders prosper unduly. (Of course, this is the economy the Republican Party has promoted — but facts are powerless in the face of a potent mythology.) Obama is the precise opposite of Mountain Man Todd Palin: an entirely urban creature. He lives within the hilarious conundrum of being both too "cosmopolitan" and intellectual for Republican tastes — at least as Rudy Giuliani described it — while also being the sort of fellow suspected of getting ahead by affirmative action. The Democrats have no myth to counter this powerful Republican fantasy. They had to spend their convention on the biographical defensive: Barack Obama really is "one of us," speaker after speaker insisted. Really. Democrats do have the facts in their favor. Polls show that Americans agree with them on the issues. The Bush Administration has been a disaster on many fronts. The McCain campaign has provided only the sketchiest policy proposals; it has spent most of its time trying to divert the national conversation away from matters of substance. But Americans like stories more than issues. Policy proposals are useful in the theater of presidential politics only inasmuch as they illuminate character: far more people are aware of the fact that Palin put the state jet on eBay than know that she imposed a windfall-profits tax on oil companies as governor and was a porkaholic as mayor of Wasilla. So Obama faces an uphill struggle between now and Nov. 4. He has no personal anecdotes to match Palin's mooseburgers. His story of a boy whose father came from Kenya and mother from Kansas takes place in an America not yet mythologized, a country that is struggling to be born — a multiracial country whose greatest cultural and economic strength is its diversity. It is the country where our children already live and that our parents will never really know, a country with a much greater potential for justice and creativity — and perhaps even prosperity — than the sepia-tinted version of Main Street America. But that vision is not sellable right now to a critical mass of Americans. They live in a place, not unlike C. Vann Woodward's South, where myths are more potent than the hope of getting past the dour realities they face each day." (sorry, no quoted source, as I just saw this c+p on another forum) Last edited by Sykonee; Sep 12, 08 at 02:22 PM.
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Couple highlights from the transcript here:
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Shots were fired in Vietnam and Korea. You can put lipstick on a pitbull, it's still a dumb bitch.
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