Helping each other out.

[JadoreJDM]

Heeeeey....so I live in Abbotsford and am always actively doing promoting (freelance). In the past its mostly been for Twisted Productions but now Im going to help out MSH Sessions to. Anyways I know not everyone lives in Vancouver and sometimes it can be a hassle to get tickets to events so I created a facebook group...check it out. If your interested in joining then do so, spread it around to others who would be interested too....the help would be appreciated.

thanks for your time if you take a look :)

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...4481764&ref=mf

[wishbone]

marketing 101: make a thread title relating to what you're doing.

i say this as both a marketer, and someone who used to be a twisted/swingkids ticket seller in abby.

go in peace.

edit:
but lol you're not a "promoter".

[miss.myra]

flyering is now freelance promotion?

omg ravers update your resumes!

...carry on :)

[wishbone]

Skills and Abilities
============
- SiCk LiGhTsHoWz!!!!!!
- EXPERIENCED KICKSTEPPER
- Makes own bracelets

[mojo]

Why not add that to a resume? I would think that if you are applying for a job in sales it would fit in well.

[dj_soo]

WOW, YOU PEOPLE ARE SOOOO JADED

YOU MUST BE SOOO COOL s

[miss.myra]

oh thats awesome, you make a post making an observation and everyone thinks you're an asshole.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

WOW, YOU PEOPLE ARE SOOOO JADED

YOU MUST BE SOOO COOL s

yeah...speaking of which..

i think this is somewhat of a marketable skill. i have provided references for people who have done this for me before.

i also encourage them to "own" the show. seems far more impressive then saying they are working for me. besides if it werent for people like this girl, my flyers would just stay in the trunk of my car forever.

[anewlife]

Help each other out, share a Guinness...

[rawb]

Originally Posted by Avana

my flyers would just stay in the trunk of my car

OBV EUPHEMISM

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by Avana

i think this is somewhat of a marketable skill. i have provided references for people who have done this for me before.

i also encourage them to "own" the show. seems far more impressive then saying they are working for me. besides if it werent for people like this girl, my flyers would just stay in the trunk of my car forever.

you work for me now

own it


wtf am i even doing

[NinjaBoy]

Freelance promoting is basically a bullshit job title to begin with. I've seen tons of people who have "freelance promotions" or some their own promotions company on their resume.

99% of the time it's something stupid like there friend had a concert which they handed out flyers for, or sometimes they even have their own web page showing a poster they made for a friend in photoshop.

If someone is "freelance" promotions and doesn't have a web page showing examples, and testimony from a few different clients it's just embarrassing.

^ isnt the definition of someone who hands out promotional material a promoter?

just because they dont have a financial stake in the company/event doesnt mean they dont want it to do well. not to mention, if she is getting paid to do a job, i would say she is doing it. not to mention, one of the companies she promotes for is a well documented company that has a legal operating license in vancouver and the reputation to back it up.

if she was promoting red bull or rockstar, would this be any different?

[wishbone]

I think the getting paid factor versus two free comp tickets is a good dividing point.

and I don't mean anything bad by the latter. when i sold tickets for twisted, i just did it for a couple comp tickets. nothing wrong with that, but I'd hardly consider it a "promotions" job let alone something I'd put on my resume.

Originally Posted by wishbone

I think the getting paid factor versus two free comp tickets is a good dividing point.

and I don't mean anything bad by the latter. when i sold tickets for twisted, i just did it for a couple comp tickets. nothing wrong with that, but I'd hardly consider it a "promotions" job let alone something I'd put on my resume.

i hear what you are saying - but as it relates to twisted, this is a company who does shows up to 6 times a month. the average ticket price is $40 a ticket, at minimum. i pay $10 an hour for flyering, so in my mind that is 4 hours of work. if she did those four hours of work for each show, she has spent 24 hours of her month working for twisted.

when hiring someone to do outside promo, you have to be able to trust that they arent just throwing the flyers in the trash can but claiming that they actually handed them out. i think it shows the ability to work on her own.

i work just a little over that for lady i work for with a disability. i still put it on my resume.

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by Avana

i hear what you are saying - but as it relates to twisted, this is a company who does shows up to 6 times a month. the average ticket price is $40 a ticket, at minimum. i pay $10 an hour for flyering, so in my mind that is 4 hours of work. if she did those four hours of work for each show, she has spent 24 hours of her month working for twisted.

when hiring someone to do outside promo, you have to be able to trust that they arent just throwing the flyers in the trash can but claiming that they actually handed them out. i think it shows the ability to work on her own.

i work just a little over that for lady i work for with a disability. i still put it on my resume.

if i list you as a reference, just make sure you mention my lightshows.

Originally Posted by wishbone

if i list you as a reference, just make sure you mention my lightshows.

your lightshows are crap compared to your liquid, i might not be able to answer that one.

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by Avana

your lightshows are crap compared to your liquid, i might not be able to answer that one.

check it out i got the ball i got the ball i got the ball i got the ball here you take it *liquid pass*

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Avana

^ isnt the definition of someone who hands out promotional material a promoter?

just because they dont have a financial stake in the company/event doesnt mean they dont want it to do well. not to mention, if she is getting paid to do a job, i would say she is doing it. not to mention, one of the companies she promotes for is a well documented company that has a legal operating license in vancouver and the reputation to back it up.

if she was promoting red bull or rockstar, would this be any different?

Handing flyers out every six months is hardly a job. You can call it freelance promotions, I have no problem with that. But Freelance promotions still remains a bullshit job title.

It would be different if she came to me in a job interview working for Red Bull or Rockstar.

A: She would have offically worked there. If a company is willing to do that then that says something right there. I doubt that she or twisted claim any of her pay on their taxes.

B: It's regular work. The employer takes time training them in a regular work environment.

C: The structure clubs/raves use to promote doesn't translate well to the real world. Basically a promoter finds as many people as they can, gives them a box of flyers, and tickets. Says sell these and you keep five dollars from each ticket. There is hardly any interviewing or skills required. It's done by mass. It's the exact same structure companies use when they have kids sell chocolates door to door. And the chinese kid down the street from me and his hockey team are not freelance promoters.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Avana

i hear what you are saying - but as it relates to twisted, this is a company who does shows up to 6 times a month. the average ticket price is $40 a ticket, at minimum. i pay $10 an hour for flyering, so in my mind that is 4 hours of work. if she did those four hours of work for each show, she has spent 24 hours of her month working for twisted.

Do you issue T4's?

[Grapes]

YOU CAN DO IT OTTO
YOU CAN DO IT OTTO
HELP EACH OTHER OUT
THAT'LL BE OUR MOTTO l

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Do you issue T4's?

no, but it is listed as contractual employment. it is up to the employee to claim it on their end.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Avana

no, but it is listed as contractual employment. it is up to the employee to claim it on their end.

I just want you to clarify this for us.

You just give them a $40 ticket for a show to flyer.

You throw how many shows a year?

And I'm supposed to consider their "Freelance Promotions" as an actual job when it shows up on a resume?

[Erin]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

I just want you to clarify this for us.

You just give them a $40 ticket for a show to flyer.

You throw how many shows a year?

And I'm supposed to consider their "Freelance Promotions" as an actual job when it shows up on a resume?

I thought she said that she pays them $10/hr to flyer...?

I believe the point she is making is that Twisted does up to 6 shows a month - if this girl does 4 hours for each show at $10/hr then that's $2880/year.