Thank you Facebook!

[Kraig]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

why send the messages in the first place?

Hey Myrasauce... I totally understand and appreciate everything that everyone has said about Facebook and promoters (like me) annoying them with messages, invites, etc. via Facebook.

Why send messages? -- The simple answer is because it sells tickets. It may piss you, and several others off but you'd be surprised at the amount of messages I get back with people saying, "thanks for sending this! I still need to get my tickets, etc."

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Kraig

Hey Myrasauce... I totally understand and appreciate everything that everyone has said about Facebook and promoters (like me) annoying them with messages, invites, etc. via Facebook.

Why send messages? -- The simple answer is because it sells tickets. It may piss you, and several others off but you'd be surprised at the amount of messages I get back with people saying, "thanks for sending this! I still need to get my tickets, etc."

Yeah, well spam mail sells viagra/cialis/prozac/etc, doesn't mean that it doesn't piss people off.

Just because something works doesn't make it good business practice.

And now, if you overuse said practice people have the option of ignoring you permanently. So now it may not necessarily work as well as you thought it would.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Kraig

Hey Myrasauce... I totally understand and appreciate everything that everyone has said about Facebook and promoters (like me) annoying them with messages, invites, etc. via Facebook.

Why send messages? -- The simple answer is because it sells tickets. It may piss you, and several others off but you'd be surprised at the amount of messages I get back with people saying, "thanks for sending this! I still need to get my tickets, etc."

Yeah but to promoters, throwing events and promoting them is their business.

Think about it this way Kraig, in your job if you have a set meeting with someone in your outlook calendar would you think it was very professional for them to e-mail you daily to remind you that the meeting or event was happening? That simply would not be tolerated.

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Just because something works doesn't make it good business practice.

that's debatable heh.

(but i don't feel like it :P)

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Gusto

that's debatable heh.

Banks around the US are quickly learning this principle.

[ppcock]

If anyone actually uses figures from facebook to calculate their attendance is a waste of time.

and I agree with myra.. I dont need 8 freakin message a week about a stupid DJ or some artsy fartsy show.
I've wanted to attend events.. then the messages start. I boycott the event like the plague.

[Kraig]

LOL @ using RSVP's to calculate attendance. I've never done that. It comes down to ticket sales / money collected.

Though the number of RSVP'd does usually reflect the level of interest in the show or the artist.

[ppcock]

touche..
but... (and Im just going to ask you, since you're the only promoter here) why is there a need to send out updates?

[Kraig]

Originally Posted by ppcock

touche..
but... (and Im just going to ask you, since you're the only promoter here) why is there a need to send out updates?

I don't send out to many updates at all so I can't comment for others. If I post the event say 1-2 months before it actually happens, I "may" send out 2 updates between now and then (usually only 1 the week of though) for the reasons I already mentioned above to Myra.

Though it may piss you, her and a few others off, it sells tickets and I get replies from peeps saying thanks for the reminder, I need to get my tickets or other replies with questions on the event. After sending out a message or update like that, we sell tickets... it directly translates to tickets sold. So does that mean I sent 10 updates out, hell no, but communication leading up to the event makes sense and is good marketing.

[miss.myra]

I disagree with you downplaying it saying it pisses a 'few' people off, because the people annoyed at those messages are in the majority.

The purpose of having an event page is to communicate and market your product all in one easy to find place without a lot of 'mess' or 'noise'. That way, those interested in going can find everything they need to know in one location. If major updates are done to your event ie- the time changes, it's cancelled, then facebook does the job of notifying everybody so.

[Kraig]

I'm not going to apologize for running my business... I'll use whatever means are at my disposal to ensure the artist has the best show.

And you can't speak for the masses... sorry. As I've said, the 1 to 2 updates I "may" send out equal ticket sales. Call it what you must, but those people appreciate it.

[Gusto]

you can't really blame someone for marketing their own business effectively. opt out is more effective than opt in, for something like this. you can turn it off notifications if you want, but you wouldn't go and turn them on if you didn't know they were being sent.

[matéo]

Originally Posted by Kraig

I'm not going to apologize for running my business... I'll use whatever means are at my disposal to ensure the artist has the best show.

And you can't speak for the masses... sorry. As I've said, the 1 to 2 updates I "may" send out equal ticket sales. Call it what you must, but those people appreciate it.

Kraig, I wouldn't count you in with the other peeps on my list, that's for sure. You don't spam nearly as much as some companies. But I think the masses obviously spoke because the "ignore all event invites from this user" function was created.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Kraig

I don't send out to many updates at all so I can't comment for others. If I post the event say 1-2 months before it actually happens, I "may" send out 2 updates between now and then (usually only 1 the week of though) for the reasons I already mentioned above to Myra.

Though it may piss you, her and a few others off, it sells tickets and I get replies from peeps saying thanks for the reminder, I need to get my tickets or other replies with questions on the event. After sending out a message or update like that, we sell tickets... it directly translates to tickets sold. So does that mean I sent 10 updates out, hell no, but communication leading up to the event makes sense and is good marketing.

A couple of reminders over a month is a lot different than sending out like 3 or 4 on week-of, which is I think the main thing that is being complained about here.

[Kraig]

^^ I agree. I've never done 3-4 week of an event.

[Carrie]

there should be a better system for weekly events.. to have to create a new event for the same night is pretty stupid