Jun 24, 03
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cop kills two.
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/stor...C-5F7A5761117B
Well, hopefully this'll put those powertripping piggies in thier place. Ive seen them not feel like waiting for red lights and running them too many times. 
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Jun 25, 03
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i was heading home at 330 that morning and the car the cops hit was hooped. it was clear off the sidewalk on the lawn of the old convience store on that corner. you'd think they learn, seeing how it was just a domestic disturbance by joyce station. they must have been absolutely flying.
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Jun 25, 03
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^ I was going to touch on the same thing.
You have no right whatsoever, to put down anyone elses driving habits.
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Jun 25, 03
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it's odd. all of you [and me] are young, and by that we some how feel like "piggies" are out to get us in some form...and that they're "powertripping"...and so they were not wanting to wait for a red light and ran it? i don't think so. with the speed that they were going [obviously to have done that much damage] they were not simply just avoiding stopping for a red...and to say that they're responding to "just a domestic disturbance by joyce station" is ignorant. i believe the link reads "a VIOLENT domestic disturbance"...you don't know what that means...that could involve anything VIOLENT, which is an emergency...
we were talking about this at my office today [and the office personnel consists of mostly middle-aged people] and they were all mentioning things like "i don't know about you, but getting older i notice my eyesight at night's not as good as it used to be" and things of this nature, leading to the conclusion that in most part it was the elderly couples fault, or at least could be construed as so.... we don't know if the driver of the private vehicle [or even the passenger] was hard of hearing? so even if the sirens were on they wouldn't have heard....we also don't know the condition of their eyesight. nor do we know the location, maybe it was around a corner? [deja, hot karl maybe you can fill us in]... my point is. i don't think you should be jumping to conclusions about this until all the facts are presented....nor should you be making any assumptions about the police in this...or the couple...
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Jun 25, 03
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Jun 25, 03
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if i were to be driving obscenely fast, lets say to an emergency of some sort, ran a red light, and killed an elderly couple, it would be MY fault. If a COP is driving obscenely fast, runs a red light WIHTOUT LOOKING BOTH WAYS LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, and kills an elderly couple, its the other people's fault? Cops are never there when you need them, and have WAY too much power. You know what happened to my buddy? He was driving straight on a 2 lane road, cop pulled onto the road from a sideroad wihtout even looking, INTO THE WRONG LANE, and smoked his car. 3 witnesses that weren't in his vehicle said what happened, and it was STILL determined to be his fault somehow. The reason? "Cops are trained not to lie."
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Jun 25, 03
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From what I read in the paper this morning, the officer in question wasn't just heading toward a domestic disturbance (for the record, a domestic disturbance is never "just" a domestic disturbance, they should hold the same priority as any other 911 emergency), the 911 operator could hear glass breaking in the background. The same house had been visited 14 time since last June and the last time the police were there, there was a knife involved. The call was a "code 3" -- a high priority call.
If I ever needed police assistance in an emergency I would want them to arrive as quickly as humanly possible. Accidents happen. I really feel for the victims and their families. =/ If the officer in question did go against the "no more than 25 km above the speed limit" rule, he should most definitely be punished; however, I don't think we should come to any conclusions until we know all of the facts.
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Jun 25, 03
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^ very true.
My point is that from what Konrad has stated; the only thing differentiating him from these "piggies" and their "wreckless" driving he spoke of, is that he hasn't killed anyone yet. (regardless of the fact they are Law Enforcement Officers and not immature fuckwads putting other people's lives in danger to get a little thrill out of life.) Last edited by MistressSpankME; Jun 25, 03 at 05:38 PM.
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Jun 25, 03
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cops are trained how to drive, and just for you're information having all the license in grand turismo 3 dosn't qualify as driver training. if anything this accident should serve as evidence as to why speeding even in the earlier morning is not a good idea.
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Jun 25, 03
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KONRD. YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO DRIVE OBSCENELY FAST TO AN EMERGENCY. it's against the law. now. IF YOU HAVE A POLICE ESCOURT that's a whole other story.
and how do you know he didn't look? and thought the couple was staying stopped...and then they didn't? YOU DON'T SO SHUT THE FUCK UP. your buddy. that's too bad. and i don't exactly get the situation but yea...were the cops sirens on? ...that's a separate incident, i'm sorry if you feel you have to rag on the incident from last night because you've had bad occurences with the police [and from the sounds of you, they were probably mostly deserved].... i'm going to wait for all the facts before assuming and concluding anything....i think you should do the same. and thank you diva. just kinda proves my point more!
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Jun 25, 03
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this domestic disturbance thing is total b.s. i heard that on the news too, that it's got a history and so on and the glass breaking with a knife in the mix. however if you know joyce at all there are constantly cops there. this is not an exaggerantion. i know the area very well. as well it's close proximity to kingsway which also has plenty of cops there.
regarding the accident, the couple was turning left onto boundary from 22nd ave. the intersection is a t-stop. you have to turn left or right on 22nd when u get to boundary. so THEY HAD a green light if they were turning left. assuming the victims weren't drunk or something. regardless of the sirens/lights. cops CAN NOT run reds. they have to basically do a stop/rolling stop at a red. and obviously by the damage they didn't do any sort of stop. this is rule goes for all emergency vehicles. think about it. do you see a fire engine or ambulance BLOWING reds? they always slow down. so if they can do it, why can't cops?
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Jun 25, 03
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Jun 25, 03
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ok. all i'm saying is that you have to consider ALL the facts, and right now we don't know all the facts...
instead of just running your mouth like a little fucking punk, consider all aspects of the situation.... and honestly, we'll never really know. how can we? we can't...not TRUELY know what was happening with BOTH parties involved. it's sad that it had to happen...
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Jun 25, 03
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konrad, you're a fucking idiot. I really don't get your point, I just see it as a really cheap opportunity to try to put down authority figures (the RCMP) at the cost of two people's lives. It happens, ok? You don't see us normal, non-testosterone fuled people posting links to stories EVERY FUCKING TIME a street racing shithead does something similar (which seems to appear in the news like, weekly.)
fuck. grow UP.
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Jun 26, 03
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^ "It Happens, ok?" Wtf- It shouldnt happen. Police are here to help protect innocent people not kill them.
And lets stop bashing Konrad and get back to what this thread is REALLY about. I HOPE to god the police finally get charged for doing something wrong. There has been so much shit in the news about corrupt cops. The innocent people who got beat down at the Guns n’ roses concert, the drunk man who was dragged into an alley by cops soaking wet left to die and now this. :soak: Yes cops are good when you need them. They are there “To serve and protect” But if they get away with murder more than once… I don’t even know what to think of that. I’m not saying this about ALL cops there is some still out there who are not corrupt and are doing their jobs well. Those who break the LAW should be punished if they are cops or not. In the words of NWA “Fuck tha Police!” :finger: Last edited by Lil Jenna; Jun 26, 03 at 11:11 AM.
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Jun 26, 03
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People would think we lived in south central LA they way people whine about cops here
bottom line is those who whine about their presense would be the first to die if there were no cops (anarchy actually isn't as cool as it sounds...try it out in the Congo baby) Cops are not perfect - cops have to make judement calls you and i never will - we give them a certain power in society and that power is sometimes abused..just like it is sometimes abused by politicians, principals, teachers, CEos and so on
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Jun 26, 03
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It seems that most of you are looking at this issue so to say from one side of the fence and trying to lay blame in one direction or the other. What it seems to me is that the key to addressing a tragic incident like this is a transparent and open process that brings light to the closest account of what happened. As far as I know an incident like this will be looked into through a public inquiry by the Province's head coroner. Once the coroner has figured out what happened they will make a recommendation that will then be reviewed by various levels of government to address the concerns raised.
If the police officers involved are found to be criminally negligent they will face the same punishment any one else would under similar circumstances and could be charged with manslaughter. The point I would make is I see no use in trying lay blame on anyone at this time until all the facts have been sorted out.
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Jun 26, 03
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kristamata and jen, do u two have to turn EVERYTHING thread into a "bash konrad thread"?
fucking raunchy sewage bitches...
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