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Dec 22, 03
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on the lack of response to many a good peice of writing
tis a pity that few cast thier views upon these
and if they do, tis only in twos or in threes like maxwell's peice about cake made from cheese or a month-in-the-making composition by cheez. so much thought! so much pain! so much sun! so much rain! gets poured into the poetic prose we see here but i wont stand by idle like a horse led by bridle and watch wasted emotion run clear. 
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Dec 22, 03
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dood.
ravers aren't exactly known for thought provoking analysis and all that other sorta kinky stuff. dun take anything personally from lack of response, most stuff people write, myself included, is just ramblings from no-where. some people write, some people write, some people do beats. if this were a writing board it'd be a completely different matter, but it's not. worry not man, it's not wasted.
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Dec 22, 03
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oh i obviously dont take it personally, i was just shoked to see so many excellent peices of writing on here (mostly from you) and so little response. i thought we ravers were supposed to be an enlightened people.
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Dec 22, 03
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almost all my stuff i pull out on a thought to head basis, it's just that. poetry is self expression and trying to invoke emotions and thoughts in other people, but it's oppinionated garbage still.
enlightened...if you're referring to people who ingest, rail, inject, smoke, hoop, various chemicals and flail non-stop for 12 hours to days at a time, think you're lookin in the wrong place.
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Dec 22, 03
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enlightened doesn't mean drug free. tibetan monks are on a constant quest for enlightenment, in which they frequently use MDMA (the pure shit) and weed too. we are enlightened in the fact that we see and go through on a regular basis what "normal society" has nightmares about (drugs, sex, homosexuality, etc.) and are still very (generally speaking) positive people. in that way we are enlightened. that is what i meant. just because we use drugs (well, the majority of us) doesn't mean we cant use our brains too. thats all i was trying to say.
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Dec 22, 03
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im usually too fucked up to give indepth responses when im reading other peoples work. No doubt some of it is good but yeah sometimes words leave me and theres nothing to say but silence.
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Dec 22, 03
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^ might wanna sober up sometime and take a look at the quality of what you're writing.
quality over quantity, always. there's emotional release writing and then there's thought provoking-instill-in-other people writing. there's factual and so so many more.then there's just ranting. i like ranting. regardless of your style and the content, if someone else can't understand it, if it's not punctual/articulate or lacking a clear message, it's usually gone remain a peice with no response. whatever, fuck. writers write. ravers rave.
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Dec 22, 03
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Typically, only 2% of readers ever feel the urge to respond to a work of poetry or prose. So if you're getting any responses, you'll probably end up having quite a few more readers than you may think.
Still, if you're (I mean this in the plural, mind) writing something with the intent of having people respond to you, then you're writing for the wrong reasons. Write because you want to write; not because you have an ego in need of satisfying.
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Dec 22, 03
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i dont like people to understand mypoetry, i understand it and thats good enough for me. The masses wont usually understand my poetry...only people near and dear to me would understand it,and only the people i am writing about would understand it.My poetry is an emotional release so i take great offence to you saying quality over quantity. I guess my emotions arent quality according to you? give ur head a shake.
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Dec 22, 03
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Hey Goddessa, you have probably posted more poetry in this section, than any 3 F&Kers combined. You've also critiqued or atleast responded to almost every poem in here. Now you may be right all the time, or maybe not. What matters is that you take the time to read it, think about it, and share your views on it. The fact that you hold a lot of quantity in this section, should also reflect the quality of your work. How many people respond negatively to your writing? Not many. You've said that some of my writing kinda reminds you of your own. So maybe you're not the only one who understands your work. If you were to slap a fat set of titties on me, you may realize that you're not alone.
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Dec 23, 03
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^awww lets cuddle
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Dec 23, 03
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^this is true.
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Dec 23, 03
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my first response was gonna be 'get fucked', but since the holiday season is upon us and such and such, it's not.
if all this 'stuff' is so personal, why post at all when it's something no one else is going to understand and get shot down? personally, i like to think i throw down some underlying issue garbage into everything that gets onto paper. more often then not,when things get thrown into freestyle it loses poetic value, especially when it's just emotional release. but eh, what the fuck do i know, im just a dirty fuckin raver. Quote:
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Dec 23, 03
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i never shot down anyone...i post it because i want to see if some people might actually be able to relate...not understand, but relate.
anyways yeah ease up there tiger cuz u sound like a big a-hole!:)
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Dec 23, 03
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to be relateable doesn't it have to be understandable?
i'm not saying your stuff is shit and i'm not saying you shoot other peoples down. why post uber personal stuff if you don't want it shot down. if i see something that could be made a smidgeon more clearer with the change of a couple words, im probably gonna comment on it. On the same note, if you see something in a peice that i or anyone else that isn't up to par, please, by all means call bullshit. in really big letters. ">>BULLSHIT<<<" <--just like that. i think i AM the designated asshole around this place 
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Dec 23, 03
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my stuff doesnt get shot down?people share thier thoughts from time to time...and yah or stuff and something?!
i dont really say bad things about others work unless it is total complete crap which is a rarity. I enjoy reading others work,im not a grammer or spelling nazi,i dont pay attention to poetic vices, i see them as bein ridiculous and they take away the passion from my pleasure. writing vices to me are like the law...its there to be broken. I suppose you could say to relate is to understand...and few relate so few understand but kudos to those who do:)
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Dec 24, 03
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If one were to tell someone to change an aspect of their poetry, then one would be destroying the voice of the poet. Language (characterized even by spelling mistakes and dialect) is the personal voice of the writer and refelcts where they come from. I find that even spelling errors or the choice of wording reflects the individuality, the personality of the poet. (this excludes typos and minor mistakes that were meant to be corrected)
the artists' whom i find most interesting are those that challenge the defintion of poetry and its' norms.. In my experience I have found that having artistic technique doesn't necessarily make you creative, and being creative doesn't necessarily mean that you have technique. This applies to all forms of art, literary as well.
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Dec 24, 03
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what i was trying to get at earlier, writing on a peice of paper or a napkin doesn't make it poetry. 'poetry' is something wich, in my experience, can usually be gone over one if not several times to refine and make something clearer here or more obscure there.
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Dec 27, 03
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not really sure what you mean by that. did you mean for me to be confused? or am i just dumb? hmmmmmm....
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