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Dec 26, 03
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What to do with 104.9 XFM?
I have a great idea for the future of XFM, which bombed because if it's repeatitive rock music. First let me set it up.
There is so much good music in Canada, problem is, 99% of it will never be heard. Besides the Nelly Fertado's and the Sum 41's in Canada, there really isn't any big time names. So here's my proposal. Have a completly independant music radio statiion, but make it big, like xfm, fox, the beat, etc. Think of the amount of independant talent in Canada that needs to be heard, they could have shows, for rock, hiphop, techno, have different slots for each. Also have like a huge 4 hour slot on a friday night where all they play is demo's they recieve into the station, regardless of genre, which mixes the music up a bit. (Like Z95). It's promotes Canadian music, indy, Canadian music, gives a chance for a lot of bands, dj's & producers to have their time showing Vancouver their talent. Triple J in Australia has large play slots for indy music and bands like Silverchair, & Bush X have come from simply people listening to their demo on JJJ. That's how it works. Even have a time slot with US underground hiphop, or uk dj's, etc. The potential and routes this station could go would be endless. Promoting indy bands & dj's at clubs, battle of the bands, you know stuff like that.. That's my idea.. 
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Dec 26, 03
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Thats a great idea!
The tough part though is that you'd either have to do it yourself with your own money Or you'll have to convince an investor/financial institution to lend you a lot of money. And that your plan would work to attract enough listeners to attract enough advertisers to pay for the station and create a healty profit Unfortunatly you'll have an easier time coming up with the money yourself
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Dec 26, 03
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i heard it's going to be an easy listening or jazz type station....
or they'll bring back Xfm with a revamped image.... it wasn't just their repetitive music, their PR(public relations) and finance departments were also involved in the demise!!
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Dec 26, 03
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ive been wondering what the hell happened to Xfm, i dont listen to the radio much at all but whenever i did X was usually what i listened to, i liked it a lot more than the fox. That sucks that it died, im surprised though i thought it was doing great. Oh well.
Velocity was wicked to listen to, i got a lot of great tracks off that shit. Wuts that guys name george manianis i think. I like youre idea bassline but i dont see it happening, it would be great for unsigned artists but the corporate side wouldnt see much profit coming from it, and thats all it would be about to them. Underground hip hop is where its at.
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Dec 26, 03
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Many people asked for an urban station, and we got it (The Beat). And the listeners for this station isn't as high as everyone had hoped for. Have you noticed that the Beat is starting to play electronica? There hoping that itll draw new listeners.
Hopefully itll turn from a saturday nite show to a daily show of electronica. Not just dance but a variety of genres. Will it happen? I don't know because the CRTC requires 30% Canadian content and there might not be enuff quality content to fill it. Vancouver is a picky city. Did u know the JrFM is the best Country station in Canada? It's hard to believe it but Vancovuer is still Country and Alternative music lovers. Hip-hop and electronica is way behind IMO. `t1m PS - Underground hip-hop will never work on teh radio, because once it gets radio play ppl starting hating. So many damn haters!
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Dec 26, 03
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in a perfect world bassline!
unfortunately North American radio has been completely deregulated , you have companies like Clear Channel that own 80% of American radio , that's over 1600 AM & FM stations! prior to the telecommunications act of 1997 the amount that a legit company could own ws about 11 of AM & FM ... I know the example I've illustrated above is in the states but it's a very similar scenario in Canada You'll never have a station like the one you mentioned at an XFM or Z95 style calibre ... air play on any 1 song on these style of radio stations is $40,000 and gets played on all stations across North America You could try to get a show on one of these stations to promote independant artists but you'd need an investor , either private or the government ... good luck on that one Oh and finally here's a little tidbit that is equal ammusing as it is disturbing ... the CEO of clear channel is Colin Powel's son, so you can imagine how much propaganda is blasting through the airwaves
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Dec 26, 03
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Uh.. incase you haven't noticed or LISTENED, that's what campus/community radio is all about artistically, and culturally there mang. Showcasing INDEPENDENT musics of ALL GENRES, any era even, and electronic music gets represented vastly, and has over the past 10 years locally. You can make your suggestions reality. WITHOUT waiting for advertisers and investors to back your creativety. Don't wait for outside interests to validate your visions. That's what i say. If there's something you're not hearing on local radio airwaves, GET INVOLVED, join a campus/community radio station. CJSF is dope, and are the most recent community radio frequency to hit local waves at 90.1 FM, CiTR 101.9 FM (UBC Radio) is well known - Nardwaur is now a TV superstar!! You could be too!! Join the station!! , and CFRO - CO-OP Radio is a valuable resource for community, social, and political focussed programming. Apparantly BCIT is aiming for FM airwaves as well. Campus/community radio stations might not have the amounts of $$ commercial FM radio stations have to throw around - community radio isn't backed by adverstisers, and is NON-PROFIT - but the resources are there. GET INVOLVED. Realistically, it would be cool of western Canadian cities had the markets and interests of the public and general music fans to launch successful independent music stations that compete well with commercial/corporate backed radio, but this isnt' London, or LA, ya know? Your suggestions are already being put in action through nationwide campus/community radio CRTC licence requirements. Thats what they're there for. I applaud anyone's ideas and visions of alternate outlets to showcase music and art, perspectives, etc. outside of commercial radio/ media, but i don't think anyone anyone here would be in a position to do that on a level like Kiss FM (UK), or KROC (LA), unless you actually OWNED a radiostation, or were personally granted a CRTC broadcasting licence, or had enough $$ and backing to do any of that completely outside of corporate interests. Independence is good, and needs to happen more. It just hasn't been done around here on a commercial level much. Last edited by **TORMENT**; Dec 26, 03 at 07:58 PM.
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Dec 26, 03
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Anyone else have any brilliant ideas? Or any idea on how to promote an independant radio station in the same manner as say, 'the beat'? - and get results? Yeah i mean, college radio isn't bad, but I'm talking about having an indy station that can run with the big boys, Z - The beat - Fox. Have the same ratings, etc. It's been done before, and is now one of the biggest radio station in Australia, so i mean, with proper backing, promotion etc, it can be done. Prob won't amek any money in the first couple years however.
Last edited by firestar; Dec 26, 03 at 10:19 PM.
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Dec 26, 03
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In the States though, some College radio shows is an important as any other station in the area. Many artists get there start on College radio and people are starting to notice. Hopefully that'll happen in Canada. Woot!
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Dec 27, 03
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Like wouldn't it be cool to see like.. for instance 104.9 INDYFM or whatever doing big underground hiphop shows at Atlantis with Tribe and BEP headlining or something? (I know they're american but..) you know what I mean? Have stations like the fox & the beat shakin in their boots because the indy station wouldnt have to spend the big bucks promoting and bringing in big name peeps, i mean half the indy scene would do a gig for free if it got them some publicity right? So not much overhead there really. I mean, it would be run EXACTLY the say 'the beat' - but have a wider variety of music and have a %90 canadian theme. Think how much talent could pop up. Be being a producer myself i'd love to see something like this pop up. For the kid rapping in his bedroom who thinks he's the next Jay-Z - Ya know?
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Dec 27, 03
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uhhh...anybody ready for some 104.9 Clear FM??
It's Vancouver's clear music choice, apparently. (that's what it says when I go to the website...). And someone mentioned about BCIT's radio station...right now it's just cable, but next year will be the first year of fm tranmission and I'll be on it. Along with being in the second year of the program. But radio is a lot more than just the music, unfortunately, and dj's don't ever get to pick what gets played on the stations. So there will probably be no station ever that pleases everyone.
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Dec 27, 03
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the beats a joke, when it came out i thought it was the best thing to happen to radio. but its gone the way of everything else, a select playlist of the same ol garbage like nelly and shit. I went back to xfm but now thats gone, radio is a lost cause. oh well i listen to cds most of the time anyways.
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Dec 28, 03
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it would be a great idea, exept that like dave said... to make money you have to please the massives... and not like a couple of thousand people... not even like 5000 people...
more like 100 000 people per day at least!!! this city isnt right for it :(
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Dec 28, 03
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It can't and never will be as big as Z or FOX or whatever simply because the crowd isn't there for it. While I agree that yes, it would be cool to have a massive station dedicated to good indy music and moved away from the pop inundating everything, but just keep in mind that only about 20% of the population would be smart enough to enjoy it. Keep in mind that even a less significant number would bother to listen to it on the basis that usually people with those kinds of tastes prefer to go and find the music and listen to it at their own leisure than have someone tell them what to listen to.
Campus and community radio is as big as it's going to get. The coolest thing about them is that if you don't like what's going on there, it's really easy to walk in and give a show proposal and see if you can do it yourself. Keep in mind the commitment that involves (and keep in mind also that very few shows will actually get whitelisted if you just walk in without any prior history with the station...)
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Dec 29, 03
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I think they should play slayer and the dayglos and other music that doesn't suck on it.
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Dec 29, 03
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well your id is good...But you will run into problems with funding..My roomate worked in Toronto for Globel Groove radio staion ( trancefussion airwaves) Way too hard to find funding in Toronto for the station.. So judging from the state of electronic music in Vancouver it will be too hard to suceed..But nice id though..
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