MADD shocked and upset with Liberal idea to decriminalize drunk driving

narc · #1 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

VANCOUVER/ CKNW (AM980) -- The President of the Greater Vancouver chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving calls Coleman's proposal "shocking and very upsetting".

Rich Coleman wants to cut down on the amount of court time spent on drunk driving trials.

President Helen Hoeflicker says these are seperate issues. Hoeflicker says that may be the way the courts are running, but prosecuting drunk drivers is a public safety issue, not a matter of court efficiency.

She says thousands of people are killed and injured each year.

She thinks decriminalizing drunk driving will send out a message that it's okay.

http://www.cknw.com/news/news_local.cfm?item=1141&c=1

I guess it's okay to 'Pull a Gordon Campbell'

Senior · #2 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

Is it really a surprise? Personally I wouldn't blink if Gordo was caught smuggling in herion...

narc · #3 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

this could create a whole new chapter of 'Gordon Campbell - drunk driving' scenarios

Jaytimer · #4 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

hehehe... Her name is Hoeflicker.

G-Style · #5 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

I have been Djing in Clubs accross the world for over 14 years and let me tell you I have seen way too many people leave the bar and get in their cars when I now that it ain't a good idea but the law doesn't allow you to intervene. Drunk drivin should be based on a scale:
Over a certain limit equals the penelty over the next limit equals this penelty and each penelty should be double for repeat offenders. No need for court:::: If they blow a level and a blood check confirms their intoxication then you are done and shouldn't even have to go to court.
G

Bobby_T · #6 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

^^ that would violate the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms section 11 (d).

in other words.. thats a big NONO

Akeel · #7 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

^
yeah but there's so many technicalities. According to the charter you dont have to provide a breath sample either.

Bobby_T · #8 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

^^ those technicalities are what make Canada one of the most desired and respected places to live in the world.

without those "technicalites" we would be subject to opression by our own government.

You like freedom don't you?
You like living in a democracy don't you?

Akeel · #9 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

^
did you just take poli sci 100 or something?

the point i was trying to make is that even though we do not have to provide a breath sample (according to the charter), if you do not then u get slapped with "failing to provide a breath sample" and an automatic 24hr (i believe but i'm not positive).

So your charter has effectively done nothing because its been over ridden by the criminal code of canada.

Bobby_T · #10 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

^^sorry you are mistaken

The Charter being overridden by the criminal code??----->Impossible!!!

its the other way around!

the Charter was established to provide judicial checks on government legislation

The Charter overrides the criminal code in every way shape or form.

And yes I am currently taking law courses at SFU

Bobby_T · #11 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

how do you like it??

planning to be a lawyer?

PS. I have no idea how this got ABOVE your post.....it s like the twilight zone!

Akeel · #12 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

in theory it does...but go tell that to the people that refuse to provide a breath sample and end up with a 24 hour suspension.

where is the charter now?

btw i have my crim degree and am in law @ dalhousie (taking a break this semester)

*edit - posted under wrong account*

yeah at first i wanted to do criminal but now i'm going to focus more on contract and tort.

Bobby_T · #13 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

wicked i envy you

Akeel · #14 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

dont first year was fucking hard and i died a thousand deaths.

Bobby_T · #15 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

can't be too much more difficult than first and second year Engineering @ SFU

Akeel · #16 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

^
i suck at math so you win there :moon:

dj4mula · #17 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

Thank god for the Canadian Charter.

From what I've heard and read so far, the government is planning to make the penalty stronger for impaired drivers.

I think there idea of 3 months without your license, instead of 24hrs is a great idea.

AWOL · #18 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

there is a few countries in this world where drunken driving is punishable by death.

Gee, I wonder what their drinking & driving stats are?

AWOL · #19 (**permalink**) Jan 31, 04

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Originally posted by dj4mula

I think there idea of 3 months without your license, instead of 24hrs is a great idea.

I agree, although two 24 hour suspensions for me was enough to not drink and drive again.

Mo... · #20 (**permalink**) Feb 01, 04

can u believe that there is a drive through liqour store? now isnt that promoting drinkin and driving?? "here yah go theres that 60 pounder u wanted would u like a cup 2??" dosen't make sense to me lol

ebbomega · #21 (**permalink**) Feb 02, 04

Holy fucking shit.

I'm going to Mexico. Who's with me?

Grapes · #22 (**permalink**) Feb 02, 04

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there is a few countries in this world where drunken driving is punishable by death.

Gee, I wonder what their drinking & driving stats are?

I think they'd call them "execution" stats, and they'd probably be pretty high!

Boy, talk about cutting out the middle man.. no need for you to wrap your car around that lamp post drunky, we'll have you killed right away!

Listening_room · #23 (**permalink**) Feb 05, 04

And have the cops steal my tires for drinking and driving? No way jose!

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Originally posted by ebbomega:
Holy fucking shit.

I'm going to Mexico. Who's with me?