Clubs or Raves?

Lush · #1 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

Here's something I've been thinking about lately.
If you were a parent would you be more content knowing that your 15-18 year old son of daughter goes to raves or clubs?

Although I had been clubbing on occasion when I was 15-16 I had my fake ID stolen and it's only until more recently that i've been able to go again and my parents have been strangely supportive.
Why?
Because they think that going to clubs will keep away from the rave scene.
This doesn't really make sense to me, because although drugs (with the exception of alcohol) are less common in clubs they're prone to more violence. Or is this just a generalization?
Would your opinion differ based on the gender of your child, and if you were a parent would you prefer it if your son/daughter went to one over the other?

Antenna_Boy · #2 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

raves are raves, all parents know what generally happens at raves = drugs....but hell i go in to raves drunk as a mexican mule!!! hmmmm

could it be that alcohol is more healthier than drugs when taken in reasonable amounts? i think so :PartEkid:

Lush · #3 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

^ hmm I don't know about that alcohol can cause liver cirrhosis (sp?) and other liver problems. It also results in drinking and driving quite frequently, which is obviously a big problem nowadays.
I've been drinking more frequently lately and I don't like what it's been doing to me just in terms of being a downer and the whole hangover deal.
What about environment wise? Which is "safer"?

Antenna_Boy · #4 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

beer is safer....its full of calories, just dont get drunk, i said reasonable as in a couple beer, not couple litres hahahah if u drink, dont drive, let someone else drive, damn etards that are still high drive and that is just as bad...if anything, stay at home, fuck going out if there are gonna be weiners about this issue fuck!!! :smoke1:

Bobby_T · #5 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

Its all due to clubs being socially accepted. If I were a parent i would deffinetly find out what kind of rave the child was attending. If it was a city sanctioned legal event with security, i believe those are much safer than clubs or underground parties.

crookedking · #6 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

neither.

when i have a child i'll keep it locked in the basement for fifteen years, not saying a word to it when feeding time comes and then let the poor sap loose downtown.

decypher · #7 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

i'd feel safer if my daughter went to clubs with a big group of friends, had a safe ride home and knew not to leave her drinks sitting on tables or to except drinks from random people... i woulda rather she did this then goto a rave and be safe, cuz at a rave there is much more creepier guys...

bob · #8 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

i'd rather my children go to raves.
rave clothes are a lot cheaper. and ecstacy is a lot easier to wash out of polyester than sambuca is.

Antenna_Boy · #9 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

more clubs, more sex!!!! hahahah

mojo · #10 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

well, thats a toughy.

i think it will be different for our generation, well for myself atleast, because i have done both and know what goes on there. i know things will be different once i am an adult, as far as rave and club culture, but i will atleast know what went on when i was a youngen.

i dont think i would have a preference, either way i would prolly still stress about it. all i hope is that i did my job correctly and that they are open with experiences and their life in general.

it will be fun times though.

Antenna_Boy · #11 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

i'd rather my kids(thank god i have none thus far) go to small get to gethers at friends houses that I TRUST!!!! NO PARTIES FOR THESE KIDS :kam:

Hot Karl · #12 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

wouldn't matter, i'd just speak to my kid and have a good relationship with them.

Lush · #13 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

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Originally posted by decypher
i'd feel safer if my daughter went to clubs with a big group of friends, had a safe ride home and knew not to leave her drinks sitting on tables or to except drinks from random people... i woulda rather she did this then goto a rave and be safe, cuz at a rave there is much more creepier guys...

There are so many ridiculously creepy guys at clubs though, honestly.. and they're so much more persistant and forward. Then there's the possibility of a fight going on and someone getting hurt.

Just something to keep in mind....

Lush · #14 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

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Originally posted by Hot Karl
wouldn't matter, i'd just speak to my kid and have a good relationship with them.

I have an amazing relationship with my parents for the most part and yet they're so oblivious to so much that I've done. Not so much now but definitely when I was younger, we got along but it was that whole idea of "what they don't know can't hurt them."

So that doesn't always work, especially if your kid comes across
as an angel and is really pursuasive.

Mr Ektion · #15 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

Well, when i have kids, i'll be like 30. and the rave scene (in vancouver) will be much bigger and 'raving' will be more established as major clubbing events. i agree with the city sanctioned bit too. Otherwise, i'd let my kids go to clubs at 19 (if they sneak behind my back, whatever), and rave at like 15.

The drugs, well, hopefully it'll just be a phase like it's been for many of. If they turn into some sort of addict, intervention will take place, and if my kid turns into a stoner, the locking in closet till 15 thing may come into affect. but otherwise, i'm going to give my kid some credit in the street sense department instead of thinking he's some sort of retard incapable of looking out for their own good.

crackdragon · #16 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

I would like to think that I could trust my child enough to attend either event. I am not going to be nieve enough to believe that they will never try either substance, but just hope that they are edumacated enough to make the right choices when it comes down to it.
With that being said I will probably end up being a psychotic parent that beats there child into submission. Only letting them look outside the bar covered window just to remind them I am protecting them from the cruel world. Then when they are old enough to escape or beat me down, all they can hope for is to be a social reject. I can hardly wait!

Lush · #17 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

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Originally posted by crackdragon

With that being said I will probably end up being a psychotic parent that beats there child into submission. Only letting them look outside the bar covered window just to remind them I am protecting them from the cruel world. Then when they are old enough to escape or beat me down, all they can hope for is to be a social reject. I can hardly wait!

Whoa that sounds like a scene out of Carrie...

Antenna_Boy · #18 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

**agrees**^

decypher · #19 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

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Originally posted by LadyShades

There are so many ridiculously creepy guys at clubs though, honestly.. and they're so much more persistant and forward. Then there's the possibility of a fight going on and someone getting hurt.

Just something to keep in mind....

yeh good point, so i guess my choice would be NEITHER!, but in reality, i'll just have to keep a good relationship with my children and hope that they make the right choice... i have friends who are best friends with there mom's/dad's and they would feel guilty lying to them, or going out and doing crazy shit, so they just make the right choice, they still party, get loaded and stoned.. but they stay away from hard shit, and always make a good choice about things...but parents who hold there kids back, the kids just go ape shit with the drugs and partying..

Antenna_Boy · #20 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

whats better, getting liquered and falling asleep, or druggin up urself stupid to pass out? i dun like either, but getting buzzed off booze rolls my sushi anyday :PartEkid:

e_BoY · #21 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

If i was a parent i wouldnt let my kids go to either of these events at the age of 15-18. I was once that age and experianced both clubing and raving but no matter how responsible my kids were i wouldnt want them to go just cause through experiance you know what can happen even to the best of people. you dont have to be a non responsible person to get into drug problems or dirnking problems etc... Im locking my kids up lol

SEAN! · #22 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

ID SMACK THE MOTHER FUCKERS EVEN IF THEY JUST THOUGHT OF STAYING OUT PAST MIDNIGHT BEFORE THEIR 25 BIRTHDAY!

Antenna_Boy · #23 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

u are a mean person...they will run away from home and u will never see ur grand kids again u meenie@@@

Antenna_Boy · #24 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

lol^^

crookedking · #25 (**permalink**) Feb 13, 04

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Originally posted by Antenna_Boy
whats better, getting liquered and falling asleep, or druggin up urself stupid to pass out? i dun like either, but getting buzzed off booze rolls my sushi anyday :PartEkid:

i'd have to go with getting drunk and passing out in a drunken stupor in a puddle of my blood stained vomit.

i'd be so embarassed if i woke up to find i'd pissed my pants.