Best Rave Artist Ever To Come To Town???

[klockwize]

Originally posted by everone666
Spinning records is not an art.

what are you talkin about??.......it takes a long time to mater the "ART" of spinning....just like anything else!!

like someone said.....id like to see you make 1 complete mix with out makin a huge train wreck

you have to be able to know what tracks match eachother beatmatching, tweak control, and trackselection!....but its not an art?

anyway.....some of the best to come to town would have to be dj morgan.....mike downey......gumbee.....just to name a few

[inkster]

it's a skill.

[normal josh]

Originally posted by ebbomega
What the fuck is a rave artist?

At any rate your terminology for ANY of those is outright awful. If you can call anybody a "Rave Artist" it'd be the artists who made "rave music" back in the early 90s.... Prodigy, Moby, Messiah, Apotheosis, Human Resource, Armand, etc.

i do agree with you, but your date is still by far from right...

my buddie just picked up a limited frankie knuckles track i think its called piano roll, pressed in 1978

and there are still tracks that predate that... i think the roland 303 drum machine was invented in 1972 making electronic music older then you

and i would have to say that the best rave "artist" i had seen would not even been a "rave" artist as more like a graffiti artist that was comissiond to do a peice at summer love 2 years ago, im pretty sure it was take 5 but i could be wrong...

dj'ing can be an art form, if you scratch, jugle or have elaborit mixing, but if you are some kinda radio dj, you are just a juke box with a voice


but any ways for my original thought when i first read the subject of this thread...

GONG!!!

[BenGiovanni]

Brooklyn Bounce (well dj bonebreaker from the BB dj team spun hard as fuckk) :D:D
umm, i still enjoy the locals too like Jimboski and Tazix...
soo far Lange hasnt lived up to my hype :(
well umm...swamp was also dope...even though i missed majority of the set

[Sarah...]

DJ swamp was pretty dope...... it was a good feel and the fire was awsome. also the really cool party was i caught so much free shit i got undies a teeshirt the ,double record, and the cd... that was awsome......and fire is cool... its gay how he had to end an hour early cuz ppl wanted tranve:(.....
BAd boy bill @sonar was cool tooooooooooo....:)

[Sarah...]

^
I mean trance..... not tranve

[Kazuma]

John what the fuck are you talking about? Darude span a totally awesome set at IMF. Another of my favorite's would have to be Mike Downey... hard and harder.

One of my favorite "artists" to come would have to definatly be Wiggles. He is truely an artist.

[crookedking]

Originally posted by kid icarus


i do agree with you, but your date is still by far from right...

my buddie just picked up a limited frankie knuckles track i think its called piano roll, pressed in 1978

and there are still tracks that predate that... i think the roland 303 drum machine was invented in 1972 making electronic music older then you

and i would have to say that the best rave "artist" i had seen would not even been a "rave" artist as more like a graffiti artist that was comissiond to do a peice at summer love 2 years ago, im pretty sure it was take 5 but i could be wrong...

dj'ing can be an art form, if you scratch, jugle or have elaborit mixing, but if you are some kinda radio dj, you are just a juke box with a voice


but any ways for my original thought when i first read the subject of this thread...

GONG!!!

disco kicks your uncles ass.

[e_BoY]

Cant pinpoint 1 but i can name a few

Edgar V @ Summerlove 99
Tiesto @ Wicked 2000
Barthezz @ Wet Dreams (while it lasted atleast)
Blank @ FUsion Dreams

[inkster]

Originally posted by kid icarus


i do agree with you, but your date is still by far from right...

my buddie just picked up a limited frankie knuckles track i think its called piano roll, pressed in 1978

more than likely that's disco or house. both of which pre-dated raves as a social phenomenon, and rave music as a genre, which is what dave is referring to here.

and there are still tracks that predate that... i think the roland 303 drum machine was invented in 1972 making electronic music older then you

no. making electronic music older than the rave subculture and related genres.

[ebbomega]

Originally posted by Antenna_Boy
where is the luv in hate? lol :smoke1:

(Missing accents)

tao ke tao fei chiang tao.

[ebbomega]

Originally posted by dj_klockwize


what are you talkin about??.......it takes a long time to mater the "ART" of spinning....just like anything else!!

I beatmatched the third time I ever touched decks. I almost laughed at how easy it is.

like someone said.....id like to see you make 1 complete mix with out makin a huge train wreck

I've done it plenty of times, and I agree that DJing isn't an art. Music is. And as it sits, a DJ is someone who plays other people's music.

you have to be able to know what tracks match eachother beatmatching, tweak control, and trackselection!....but its not an art?

You have to be able to know what tracks are the same speed, what tracks you have in your collection, and... uh... tweak control? The ability to turn knobs? Oooooh.

I can thumb twiddle. Is that an art?

The only people who have a right to take DJing as an art are people like Hawtin. People who use the turntable as an instrument rather than a record player. Turntablists and whatnot. People who can make their own art out of other people's music. Sadly, just throwing down a beatmatch and cutting together two tracks is nowhere NEAR that amount of skill or intent.

So no, DJs aren't artists unless they're making music on the turntables. Otherwise they're just playing other people's music.

[ebbomega]

Originally posted by kid icarus
[b]

i do agree with you, but your date is still by far from right...

my buddie just picked up a limited frankie knuckles track i think its called piano roll, pressed in 1978

HOUSE != RAVE.

and there are still tracks that predate that... i think the roland 303 drum machine was invented in 1972 making electronic music older then you

The theramin was invented in like the 20s and was used by the Beach Boys many a time (that crazy whistling sound in Good Vibrations). Electronic Music has been in existence ever since Kraftwerk first got together (69? Anybody know?). Rave music and Electronic Music are NOT the same thing.

dj'ing can be an art form, if you scratch, jugle or have elaborit mixing, but if you are some kinda radio dj, you are just a juke box with a voice

Scratching is overrated (though still an excellent skill to have)

Please understand that while the parties that we now call "Raves" have been kicking around for a lot longer than anything. Heck, you can trace it back to Ancient Greece if you really want to. But as it sits, the term "rave" itself started kicking around England in the late 80s and was brought over by Frankie Bones in the early 90s. As such, the music played at those parties was called "Rave Music", and Frankie Knuckles and whatnot had very little to do with that movement. Listen to anything by Messiah to get a good idea of what "Rave Music" is. Very loud, pounding fist FUN music. Think hardcore without so much distortion.

[klockwize]

Originally posted by ebbomega


I beatmatched the third time I ever touched decks. I almost laughed at how easy it is.


I've done it plenty of times, and I agree that DJing isn't an art. Music is. And as it sits, a DJ is someone who plays other people's music.



You have to be able to know what tracks are the same speed, what tracks you have in your collection, and... uh... tweak control? The ability to turn knobs? Oooooh.

I can thumb twiddle. Is that an art?

first of all your.....your a dick!....every post ive ever seen you post is starting shit with everyone else so get a life

second.....im really sure you beatmatched sucessfuly the third time you tried.....i bet every dj that sees that is laughing!!
and even if you did ....you probly had it for a second then it totaly went off.....i remember when i started and i thought i had it when i really didnt!.......your just a wannabe bedroom dj that sux the fat one!

third....tweak control is a key factor in the "ART" of spiining.....if you where any kind of dj, you would know that its not just turning knobs

[mojo]

im gonna agree with ebbomega on this on, cus im no dj by any rights, but the second time i ever played with decks myself i beatmatched two records....i tried again and wrecked it miserably, but still. its not as tough as it looks. the hard part is keeping the people your playing for interested, IMO.

and second, i thought this board was for people to voice their own opinions about shit. it would be no fun at all if everyone just agreed with everyone else, so just suck it up there guy.dont take things so personal, remember.......its...the ..internet.....

[ebbomega]

Originally posted by dj_klockwize


first of all your.....your a dick!....every post ive ever seen you post is starting shit with everyone else so get a life

Wow. I like how you managed to bring that one out on one of the actual constructive posts I've made.

second.....im really sure you beatmatched sucessfuly the third time you tried.....i bet every dj that sees that is laughing!!

Or maybe you're a talentless idiot who doesn't know how to keep a beat.

Ask Farshad Abasi if you know him. He was there.

and even if you did ....you probly had it for a second then it totaly went off.....i remember when i started and i thought i had it when i really didnt!.......your just a wannabe bedroom dj that sux the fat one!

AND YOU CAN'T BEATMATCH!

I like how my post was factual and yours is name-calling. You really showed me that I'm a dick. Way to be.

third....tweak control is a key factor in the "ART" of spiining.....if you where any kind of dj, you would know that its not just turning knobs [/b]

You're right. With the Pioneer DJM-500 it's both turning knobs and pressing buttons.

Anybody with any skill and understanding of music in general can pick up DJing really easily. Tweak control, if you want to hype it up, is absolutely squat in the art of music making. Far too many amateur musicians seem to think so and as such they end up making songs that are all DJ tricks and no musical substance. In a word, boring.

And your assumptions about my DJing skill are entirely based on your experience with DJing, which leads me to believe that you must really suck at it. If not, please prove me wrong. But for crying out loud, beatmatching is NOT that difficult. It involves being able to count to four and listen closely to hear if the beats are starting to come apart, then budging the appropriate turntable, or if you are really skilled, not even touching the deck and just twitching the pitch up.

You call me full of shit, fine. That's nice. I know what I can do on turntables and I know how long it took me to figure out how to beatmatch. You however can only speculate based on your experience with turntables. I apologize for being better than you in that case.

[klockwize]

as you i also know my abilities on turntables, but the thing i dont get, if its soo esy for you, why havent you done any shows??

and if you want me to prove you wrong.....go to escape and trance theory!...im spiin at both those parties

and cosidering i have spun at other parties and have had 5 club night including purple onion and urban well!!

[mojo]

heres a thought....

maybe he doesnt want to be a dj

[ebbomega]

Originally posted by dj_klockwize
[b]as you i also know my abilities on turntables, but the thing i dont get, if its soo esy for you, why havent you done any shows??

I played a boat party about 2 years ago.

And I'm not a DJ.

and if you want me to prove you wrong.....go to escape and trance theory!...im spiin at both those parties

Pay for my bus, ferry and ticket and I'll gladly go.

and cosidering i have spun at other parties and have had 5 club night including purple onion and urban well!!

That's nice. It doesn't change my argument one bit (except for maybe the YOU CAN'T BEATMATCH bit).

I've heard _A LOT_ of DJs and very few of them would I consider to be artists. As I said, most of them just play other people's music. And I highly HIGHLY doubt that you're not one of them.

As Dale said, DJing is a skill, not an art. I can mow lawns but I wouldn't say I'm a landscape artist.

"Stuffing feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken."

[normal josh]

why dont you guys meet up at the flag pole at 4 and FIGHT!!!


again...

GONG!!!

[Mr.Wrong]

Originally posted by ebbomega

"Stuffing feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken."

hahahahahha

[inkster]

Originally posted by dj_klockwize
and have had 5 club night including purple onion and urban well!!

you're pretty good at this irony stuff.

[klockwize]

Originally posted by inkster


you're pretty good at this irony stuff.

??????

[inkster]

to be quite blunt, that doesn't lend you credibility by any means.

[AqvaYak]

The best dj ive ever seen live was cj stone. he played the best music. his cuts were short and uncomplicated but always perfect. he played exclusive tracks. And theres something about a 40 year old german man who boogiesout in front of the dj booth and lets lose with some rapid arm pointing that would put travolta himself to shame.