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May 27, 04
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Yeh... good idea, a lot of Military Trades are transferrable to a Civil Occupation. Do you Paintball? lol I could help you brush up on Patrolling and Cam/Concealment and Escape&Evasion. :D
Akeel: I prefer the Term: Aviation Petroleum Distribution Technician 
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May 27, 04
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Hey hey hey! Watch it there Guppy Boy! When we went on Bush Exercises it didn't consist of sitting around a fire singing "Anchors Aweigh!" ;)
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May 27, 04
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lol Chilliwack rocks... we should have one in Op C. Put some lights in the old Houses... just tell the people that the Cherry smell is smoke, not the latent Tear Gas. :)
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May 28, 04
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Follow any war in human history, and find me one that was done for justice? Behind every one is profit, no matter for what gain. Fighting for liberation, for justice, against an oppresive regiem, now that's honerable. Fighting against slavery, ignorance, racism, that's honerable. Joining the military because it's cool? That's disgusting.
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May 28, 04
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Please list me the positive and constructive princible behind warfare and I'll gladly retract my remark. Quit polluting, quit eating fast food, quit raping mother earth, and gain a conscience.
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May 28, 04
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May 28, 04
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not everyone is all hugs and giggles and shit. the world doesn't work on a live, let live attitude. Quote:
you're saying the metal in your computer isn't part of raped mother earth? ALL the food you eat is organic right? I take it you DON'T eat the meat capitalist pigs sell right? ALL of your clothes are made from organic material right? you're a goof. Last edited by Goat; May 28, 04 at 12:06 PM.
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May 28, 04
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I just got a BA from UBC, dble major history and classical studies. My focus is Demographics and ancient warfare. As Achilles says in the new movie 'Troy': how can you understand war until you have experienced it yourself. So as a scholar, i think it is my duty to get military training. Canada, I dont much care for because there are maybe too many freedoms, not enough ways to enforce laws and too many assholes abusing things like welfare, EI, Unions, pensions, and other solcialist programs. That being said, i am in favor of responsible socialism, such as exists in countries like finland and sweden (which have mandatory military service). If i did not live what i believed in, I would be a hypocrite. North Americans have 80% of the world's wealth, and the world WANTS IT BACK! So im a warrior defending our stuff? SO what. When the US come for our water, or the Chinese come for our lumber, or the Germans come for our steel, or whoever it is and whatever they want, they will negotiate first, but it usually boils down to conflict. War is stupid, silly and wrong. Most Canadians have evolved above it. But the rest of the world doesnt have our education or the morals created by the ruthless bias and propaganda force fed to us since we were children. So they in many ways are still savage. They cant negotiate, They have only one option. And they dont even see it as wrong. So you see, the world is not ready yet for no war. candada is. Certain socialist european countries are. But unitil the rest of the world is, we must be on our guard. Look at (lame annalogy but accurate) Star Trek. They had to have weapons even though they were peaceful because it was necessary. We will never agree on everything. As for the second paragraph, Justice is a Poor choice of words. That practicaly justifies about half the wars ever waged. Also, according to your words, suicide bombing is honorable. But im not going to touch that with a 20 foot pole, because ive been typing for a while. A main point you should think about is that everything is biased. You are biased against war, but blind to the causes, necessities, etc etc etc. As a historian i must remember to see both sides of an issue, to truly understand it well that is essential. So realize that I am against fighting, killing and destruction, but still see good reason the military is needed. Law enforcement, peacekeeping, hazardous area work, firefighting, field medicine, security, administration... these things are all done by soldiers. As Canadian soldiers, we exist to defend our country and to spread our ideals of peace, security and equality abroad. Money and politicians and laws can only do so much. We are simply acting as one of the tools being used to make this place better. I hope this makes you understand my point of view better.
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May 28, 04
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The Military is nessesary as a symbol if nothing else. It is a sign of our sovereignty, a point of unity, and a tool to assist the world in times of need. And while our boys and girls are, as you say, trained to kill, they are very very rarely used to do that. Our military is used to sandbag Quebec's homes, fight our forest fires, and deliver aid to Africa - Jesus, they're flying in supplies to Haiti now! I'm as anti-war as you are believe it or not - I was at almost all the anti-war rallies at the Art Gallery - I'm a hippy...ask Akeel - but it is nessessary to have forces - and indeed, to me, its as honorable as becoming a police officer. And for that reason, I give kudos to our boy here who has chosen this path. Its a commitment to himself and the rest of us, and for that we should be thankful.
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May 29, 04
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Damn rights... Locked, Cocked and ready to Rock. As much as War is a bad thing... it is human nature to fight and break things. Ever since Og found fire, he found away to make it a weapon. There are some things you can't change... It's just been an evolution, instead of Clubs for defending ourselves from Sabretooth Tigers we now have mass Organized Armed Forces for defense "from our enemies, foreign and domestic". You'll also notice that the Armed Forces don't just kill... remember the Quebec Ice Storms? The flooding on the Fraser? Reserves and Reg Force Members were used in relief as well. A military is a versitile body of skilled individuals under government control able to be used for Good and Evil. The Armed Forces are an important part of any nation. :)
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May 29, 04
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there have been many "just" wars just not very many in the last 40 years. you should be kissing the ass of all those 80 year old men who put their lives on the line so you could get away with talking this shit. pull your head out of your ass P.S sometimes people need a good killing.
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May 29, 04
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May 29, 04
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Last edited by DJ Ponz; May 29, 04 at 08:46 AM.
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May 29, 04
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May 29, 04
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i think it is something we should scoff at, because the very machine he is using to type his messages is a product of the anti-environment capitalist military-industrial complex that he renounces. The machine he is using is also a product of petrochemicals and other toxic products which permantly damage the environment, not only that the power used by the machine is created either through hydroelectricity which destroys wildlife habitat, or the burning of fossil fuels which poisions the air. essentially he's a hypocrite, if he was serious about his ideals he'd either blast himself, or go live in the forest and not have any kids. we cant live the lifestyle that we canadians have without damaging the environment, and of course we can live sustainbly which i fully support, but its a fuckin crock if you think that by recycling and lessen the amout of stuff you consume that your really doing the environment a favour, because even if the six billion human beings on this planet start living sustainbly(within the limits of current technology) we will still be destroying environment just because of numbers.
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