music/sound production??

[Courtney]

does anyone know of colleges which offer courses like this (or do most schools offer it??) because I've finally decided this is what I want to take, it would be awesome working in a studio and all that!

[ppcock]

get ready to drop $24,000

CDIS

www.artschool.com

[hardstylin]

sound production is one of the hardest industries to be good in, thats if you find a job.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by ppcock

get ready to drop $24,000

CDIS

www.artschool.com

I'd reccomend CDIS, it's right next door to my work..

but really, I know a lot of people that go there/have gone there. Their programs are good, but be prepared to spend a lot of sleepless nights at school, etc. One thing is, once you get a degree there it's pretty hard to find ANY jobs in this industry in BC- so this might be good if you're willing to relocate after you graduate.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

yeah my buddy just grad`d from there,he dropped a fuck load of dough on tuition and he isnt even working in the industry full time.

cute boys go there tho!

[Max Lazarus]

Douglas has some audio recording courses that run in the evening and are relatively cheap.

Fuck CDIS, for $24,000 you can buy your own studio and some books on how to use it, at least if you can't get enough work you can resell your gear for good money somewhere down the line.

[decypher]

^^ CDIS gives u valuable hands on experience with equipment u can only dream of owning... 24,000 wont put together a very professional studio...some equipment costs more then that just for the console...and yes its hard to get into the industry unless u know someone who is in it, like my fucking lucky bastard friend who's dad built a studio and gave him a intro job there... mother fucker... grr

[Colin_Cox]

On a much smaller scale, but also a much smaller budget, places like Langara College and VFS (Vancouver Film School) offer 30-36 hour courses on music production software like Reason, Logic, Pro Tools, etc.

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by Max Lazarus

Douglas has some audio recording courses that run in the evening and are relatively cheap.

Fuck CDIS, for $24,000 you can buy your own studio and some books on how to use it, at least if you can't get enough work you can resell your gear for good money somewhere down the line.

the audio producer at work says "you can have a degree but if you suck at producing.. the degree wont get you anywhere. If you dont have a degree and you're awesome at producing.. you'll most likely get a job" its all about the demo tape people!

[Max Lazarus]

Equipment is easy to learn, knowing technically how to use a mixer doesn't make you a good producer, although it's a useful skill to have in that role. If you learn how to make polished mixes with shoestring equipment you'll develop tons of useful skills. Most consoles are pretty similar to each other, a 1.3 million mixer has pretty much the same functionality as a 24-track Behringer, just with a lot more busses and extra functions. It's not like the studio where you'll be working will have the same mixer as CDIS anyways, or the latest hardware, neccessarily.

When I was over at CDIS for a little while the assignment some kids were working on was to calculate delay times in milliseconds... yeah, that takes some expensive equipment.

"Quick Jimmy, I need a 153 millisecond delay line!"
"Oh, good thing I went to CDIS so I know that's almost exactly an 1/8th note delay at the tempo of 196.08 BPM we're working at!"
"Good work! I'm making you first engineer!"

[Rytalin]

Originally Posted by decypher

^^ CDIS gives u valuable hands on experience with equipment u can only dream of owning... 24,000 wont put together a very professional studio...some equipment costs more then that just for the console...and yes its hard to get into the industry unless u know someone who is in it, like my fucking lucky bastard friend who's dad built a studio and gave him a intro job there... mother fucker... grr

$24000 can get you a good computer, a Digi 002, good monitors, a control surface plus a bunch more.

You don't need hardcore high end equipment like what they got at CDIS in orde to get started. That stuff you'll learn how to use when you need to. When you get a job at a world class studio, they generally start you out as a runner or the lowest level of studio assistant. You learn the gear as you work pretty much.

[hardstylin]

^^ or you could spend the 24k on a fucking insane party system throw parties all the time.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by Rytalin

$24000 can get you a good computer, a Digi 002, good monitors, a control surface plus a bunch more.

You don't need hardcore high end equipment like what they got at CDIS in orde to get started. That stuff you'll learn how to use when you need to. When you get a job at a world class studio, they generally start you out as a runner or the lowest level of studio assistant. You learn the gear as you work pretty much.

yeh im aware of the many home solutions that can be bought with 24k, i thought he was speaking of liek a WHOLE professional studio, like renting a space, doing the acoustics, and all that jazz

[Séguin]

Vancouver Film School > www.vfs.com (I'm going there part time for Sound)

[Royal_Phunk]

the best home setup in the world cant teach me what im learning right now @ the Art Institute, and i know my stuff. You think you can learn about the physics of making good sound by a home setup in your basement, your fooling yourself. Dont get me wrong .. lots of engineers are self taught, or didnt go to school, but some of them dont know the most elementry things about sound. i dont know one professional studio in the world that would hire you cuz you can make an ok house/breaks/d an b .. whatever track hahaha. =) what happens when you have to record a band all by yourself .. or a vocalist that you have to record to her specific voice... uh oh... it just depends what you want to do. If you wanna make electronic music .. do it yourself. If you dont, then good luck or go to school.

AndreWs.