Nov 27, 01
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I need help...
Understanding why people support money grabs by twisted and such, specially when something goes wrong every time, and the only reaction they ever have is rasing ticket prices?
Is it that people have too much money? They use less brain cells then when I sneeze? They don't think that there is an alternative? They like to gamble, and hope maybe this time the headlinner will show up? 
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Nov 27, 01
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Twisted has no control if the dj's don't show up. Do you think they do this intentionally?
Lock'n'Load called in 2 days before they were to arrive, and cancelled on them. Twisted can't "force" them to come down. In the end, they still had to pay around $1000 for their airfair, because the airport wouldn't let them have their money back, or even give them credit for a different flight. It would be ridiculous to think that Twisted plans out their headliners not show up, because they lose money in the end because of cancellations. I think it's funny that you would say Twisted are "money grabs." You have no idea how much their making. You have no idea how much their losing. Yes their ticket prices are higher than other smaller production companies... but their facilities are larger, thus needing: more security, more sound etc, plus they bring in dj's from all over the place... meaning more money.
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Nov 27, 01
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Re: I need help...
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Can someone please tell me why this fuckin' Ninjaboy sounndz like a broken record? Look... we know that you don't like mainstream parties that have poster sized flyers that cost $30+ dollars.... We know that none of the Dj's you like would ever spin @ a party that has a poster sized flyer that costs more than 30+ dollars. ADN YOU KNOW WHAT??? I'm glad you weren't @ this party!!! and I'm glad that I'll hopefully never have 2 meet you @ one of these parties. LOL! Lock'n'Load not showing did little or nothing 2 change the outcome of this party. In my opinion anywayz:355:
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Nov 27, 01
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Ha, I knew this would happen
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BUT twisted could have posted or said something on the info line, telling people that LockN Load weren't comming, thus showing people that they might not want to go. OR GASP Partial refunds? Or some other way of crediting them? GASP! I know I would if one of my headlinners didn't show up. Quote:
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I have a question. Why is azim, still selling his NYE party as an all night event, even though richmond is saying, he prolly won't get his permit? Just a question (Twisted Zombies, you may give me negative karma now)
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Nov 27, 01
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That's exactly it though, they only changed your ticket price. I don't hate massives, I love some, if done by the right promoters. Example: Al of LX cancelled X factor, azim oversold spooky. AL Gave all ticket event holders vip access to the next 6 LX events Azim limp dicked around with refunds. I am going too ct4, I also like static, and am pretty pumped about any parties they do. BUT NOBODY ANSWERED THE ORGINAL QUESTION? Why are you supporting them?
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Nov 27, 01
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Re: Re: Re: I need help...
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I was dancing with about 20 or so hot chicks @ 5/6 am,,, is that a good enough reason? At this point in the party,,, most of the people had gone home... except all the hot chicks that were there all night were still there:231: I'm sure I can give you a few more reason if you'd like And I agree with you about AL and lx... that's fuckin' cool!!! Al is one of the only promoters that I haven't met,,, and I know that he is a real solid guy. I'll most likely be @ CT4,,, because CT3 was one of my first and most memorable parties.
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Nov 27, 01
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I wonder, will I ever go to brandie's? Will those F&K people actually go to a rave? Will this new razor really give me a close shave with 3 blades of cutting action? Will I ever throw out the stir fry rice in the back of my fridge?
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Nov 27, 01
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I offically love this thread cause of this negative karma:
i love azim, and his parties are not money grabs.... btw, you are a nerd buger w/ cheese.... love the infamous FP Calling me a nerd? OF COURSE! For those who didn't know me very well, I am the lord of nerds, I am nerdly beyond belief. At least it wasn't as brilliant as the one: You are gay. I'm loving this karma system.
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Nov 27, 01
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the triple blade is excellent. However,,, you must also purchase the 'sensor excel' because you can't shave your side burns on an angle with the triple blades! The double ones work perfect though.:262:
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Nov 27, 01
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BUT twisted could have posted or said something on the info line, telling people that LockN Load weren't comming, thus showing people that they might not want to go. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * I agree, however, I'm sure lock'n'load wasn't the only thing that attracted people into going. Granted, they should have announced it on the info-line. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OR GASP Partial refunds? Or some other way of crediting them? GASP! I know I would if one of my headlinners didn't show up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * what are they going to do? "here's $5 for everyone cause lock'n'load didn't show!" How are you to calculate how much each dj's worth, on each ticket? what for $30 lock'n'loads worht $5, Spice is worth $5, locals worth $2?? That's ridiculous. Come on, let's be realistic here. If you go to a restaurant in particular for like, their "chicken special" and they didn't have it that night, do you expect money off your dinner? Things don't run perfectly all the time. Shit happens. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shouldn't lock n load's agency work this out? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * of course their agency should work this out... but they didn't, and someone's got to pay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uh huh,I'm sure azim is losing tons of money. But he dosen't care, cause he's all about the scene, y0! I doubt he would stay for that. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * oh give me a fuckin break. Did I say he's losing lots of money? No... Every parties different, one they'll make, one they'll loose, sometimes they break even etc... I also never said he's in it for the "plur bullshit" either. Of course it's business, but he ain't a fuckin millionaire is what I'm saying. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But then by defenetion, more people are comming offsetting this. Also since ticket prices are 4 times higher then the average small party. wouldn't this offset the loses? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *but what if lots of people dont' come? the money from the people that did would have to be stretched to pay for all the extra expenses. I'm obviously not saying bit ones like Spooky, but even the Riverside parties. The space is still pretty big, and Azim will bring in dj's from all over to play. The number of people that come to each party is always questionable; therefore profit will vary from party to party. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a question. Why is azim, still selling his NYE party as an all night event, even though richmond is saying, he prolly won't get his permit? Just a question (Twisted Zombies, you may give me negative karma now) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Hmm... I don't know. But I think no one gets their permits until like... a week or so a head of time? For some reason I think that, but I may be wrong. Twisted Zombie... referring to me?
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Nov 27, 01
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first learn to quote, it's confusing other wise.
second: You said, you weren't saying azim is losing money, but you also asked me if knew how much he was losing. That imply's that he is losing money. Also about the hole refund thing: If I go to a resturant because they advertise steaks, I sit down, and for some reason pay before I eat it, Then they come up to me and say, well the steaks are all gone, help yourself to the salad bar. I would say I want somoe money you fuckers.
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Nov 27, 01
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First:
I'm not a computer person... and shit i can't quote properly... I deeply apologize for the "confusion" i caused you, even though the quotes were from YOU, so you know if you wrote it, and I put a * beside all my responses... Second: I never asked do you know how much he is losing. I said you DON'T KNOW how much he is making, or how much he is losing. I never implyed he wasn't making money. I've put in my 2 cents... I will no longer respond to this thread.
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Nov 27, 01
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It's very simple to judge azim's means here:
If he gives people special access or lower prices to his other events that went to simple (providing they hold onto their ticket stub) then you know he cares about the party goers, if not, then he cares about the party goers money. My 2cents. markpaul :384:
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Nov 27, 01
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I personally would have been choked if I had gone to Simple, as one of the reasons I was considering going was for Lock'n'Load. Similarly with Spooky, I was considering going to see Signum, but I'm glad I didn't.
If Twisted knew lock'n'load weren't going to be there 2 days in advance, then I think he should have mentioned something about it on the Infoline. Seeing as how Lock'n'Load were the headliners, I think he should also give some type of partial discount for Simple ticket holders for future Twisted parties. Other than that, there's not much he can do if his headliners decide to bail on him. Sean
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Nov 27, 01
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Time to step in again... gah.
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Pure and utter ignorant bullshit. Twisted has *everything* to gain by stating that big names will show at their parties, and then have them not show up. Cancellations mean shit. Even if Lock and Load had been billed, and booked, and even if they did cancel (of which there is no proof of), they are still saving money in the end as they do not have to pay them for their performance. Where you are getting your grade 4 logic from, I don't know. THINK ABOUT IT. Performer doesn't show, performer doesn't get paid. THESE ARE NOT HARD CONCEPTS. Twisted has even more to gain by not booking the act in the first place and by just billing him on the flyer. In this situation, they don't even have to pay for billing fees or tickets. I't's all just extra ticket sales for them. They did this recently by starting a rumour that Digweed would show for their NYE party. Of course, a little investigation stated that he wasn't going to be anywhere near Vancouver that night, but Twisted probably sold a few tickets because of this rumour. Quote:
I know how much money they're making. A LOT. And they aren't losing anything. 100 dollar ticket prices x 5000 people tell me this without having to do much math. Quote:
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Nov 27, 01
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The NYE show will most likely not happen at the Bridgeport space. undernet has a rough past with Richmond City Council, and the police are already going to be stretched to their limits as it is that night. I hope you've got lots of warm clothes. Chilliwack can get pretty nipply in the winter. ][nkster
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Nov 27, 01
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I cannot believe i'm doing this...
Grade 4 logic ehh...
Want to know what my proof is?? My proof is that I WAS THERE YOU FUCKING RETARD!!! I was there when Seth and Nigel were stuck with no fucking dj to play at their club night in victoria. I was there when they bitched and complained all night about how lock'n'load didn't show up. I was there when Azim/Seth fought over who was going to pay for the airfair What you want evidence that lock'n'load were booked? On Azim's table was the entire financial outline- costs for everything was there: lights, permits, security, food/drink, dj's--- INCLUDING LOCK'N"LOAD-- do you want a fucking copy?? Tickets for Simple were $45 day off by the way... not $100 Not every fucking party they through has 5000 people showing up you idiot. They don't through a SPOOKY every weekend. Regarding the permit: LIKE I SAID IF YOU CAN READ---> I MAY BE WRONG... Don't bother arguing with me... because I know I'm right. I was there. And you were not.
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Nov 27, 01
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well god damn chris, i guess we're all suckers for going out, spending some cash and having a good time!
DAMN! you are right! i wish i still had that $45 in my wallet so i could stare at it until i found a bill to pay with it or something! DUDE! JUST LET IT GO! it'll give u a free hand to grapple with your wang tonite...
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