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Old Oct 06, 04
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Vice Presidential Debate

On live, starting in a few minutes.

You can watch it here: http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...IVE/index.html

Ya might need a membership from the NYtimes, but they're free,
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Old Oct 06, 04
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Vice Presidential debates ARE NOT homework, simon.
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Old Oct 06, 04
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Hey, who are you to tell ME about doing homework?


Plus, I'm a polisci major. So it IS kind of homework.
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Old Oct 06, 04
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I am TRYING to help you, Mr. 6-pages-due-tomorrow.
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Old Oct 06, 04
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I'm getting pretty quick at whipping these 6 pagers off.

Gotta do one every wednesday.
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Old Oct 06, 04
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That is noooooo excuse, Mr. President.

OK time for coffee + poetry.
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Old Oct 06, 04
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mmmm coffee
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Old Oct 06, 04
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cheney's not coming back with any good responses... he always starts with "the senator has his information worng!", but cheney doesnt correct what he may have said worng, he just goes of on something else...... what a dipshit
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cheney's not coming back with any good responses... he always starts with "the senator has his information worng!", but cheney doesnt correct what he may have said worng, he just goes of on something else...... what a dipshit

..Typical Dick riding opinion homie,

Edwards is using the same news headlines on the same redundant shit everyone already knows with all his vendentta on what 'Could have been better'...

Obviousley, they 'Should' have supplied them with more body armor and such but kerry voted 'Against it', bringing things like that up are pointless..

Kerry himself said that hussein was a threat, so sayin there was no link between osama and saddam isnt completly true, they jus never conducted anythin directly..which probally was stopped due to the fact that after 9/11 they went right to war..

I think cheney took the debate, edwards was fair on commentin about the open sexual preference of cheneys daughter, saying its respectable how he does not want a ban amendement but does recommend saying that he does not support the mariages and thats good he respected how open he is about it..

Edwards hit good on saying the votes cheney missed, but with a more respectable retort from cheney like this..:

"your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you senator gone." Cheney noted he serves as presiding officer of the Senate but "the first time I ever met you was when I walked on the stage tonight."

think both did good, but the support cheney showed bush and kept it consistent and consitency is what was lacking some say from the war, was brought back through the debate tonite and cheney more than held his own, peace
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Old Oct 06, 04
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..Typical Dick riding opinion homie,


Yup, Cheney and Bush both won their debates, total victory.

A total victory just like Iraq.
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Old Oct 06, 04
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Yup, Cheney and Bush both won their debates, total victory.

A total victory just like Iraq.
"Mission Accomplished!"
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Old Oct 06, 04
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Yup, Cheney and Bush both won their debates, total victory.

A total victory just like Iraq.
hahaha

I don't know if Harlem Cripz actually WATCHED the debate, but IMO, Cheney got his ass handed to him by Edwards.
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Kerry himself said that hussein was a threat, so sayin there was no link between osama and saddam isnt completly true, they jus never conducted anythin directly..which probally was stopped due to the fact that after 9/11 they went right to war..
Huh? What?

Why does the fact Kerry admitted Hussein was a threat lead you to the conclusion that "no link between osama and saddam" isn't true?

Because they're both threats?

So I guess the 2 of them were probably collaberating with Kim Jong-Il as well. He's a threat.

Ya, they probably have some secret underground lair.

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I think both did good, but the support cheney showed bush and kept it consistent and consitency is what was lacking some say from the war, was brought back through the debate tonite and cheney more than held his own
You're saying Cheny did well because he supported Bush?

What the flying fuck did you expect him to do?

God, the things people give the republicans credit for.. you'd think they were 6 year olds.

"Way to go tiger! You remembered whose side you were on!"
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hahaha

I don't know if Harlem Cripz actually WATCHED the debate, but IMO, Cheney got his ass handed to him by Edwards.
Hate to break it to you homegirl, you cant have an opinion unless you take both sides of a story..

That being said, taking information outside genermated media which is gonna be biased all over because each artical you would read 'online' has the potential of having a bias in it, depending on the 'State' it was aired from etc...

Listening to both sides of a debate 'Before' posting, is the only way you can 'Justify' your 'Own' opinion..

Now that you got that outta the way, Edwards Job galaxie was to basically go in there, not screw up, and point out the misleading of american people along with the negativity the adminstration has brought to the country 'Not' because of the war, but 'How' there handling it, and then each potential viewer will make the decision of 'If' they handled it right, along with 'Have' they handled it well enough to continue on..

Edwards did 'Not' look nervous or out of place, and did stick to hitting issues on saying 'They are not being honest with the American People', which is what he was supposed to do..

Cheneys job for the 'Republicans/Undecided' voters, since its pretty impossible unless its a complete obvious reality check that you cant change a democrat to a republican because it goes beyond that..was to come off the first debate negativity of Kerrys win over bush by making sure the progess of the war was noted, how it wasnt just the "Americans" taking casualities and losses, the future, and take hits at the inconsitency of the way Senator 'Kerry/Edwards' voted before..

Check quotes like these..:

“You suggested somehow they shouldn‘t count, because you want to be able to say that the Americans are taking 90 percent of the sacrifice. You cannot succeed in this effort if you‘re not willing to recognize the enormous contribution the Iraqis are increasingly making to their own future. We‘ll win when they take on responsibility for governance, which they‘re doing, and when the take on responsibility for their own security, which they increasingly are doing.”<----Americans arnt only ones losing out, people fighting there for freedom are losing individuals as well..

"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session. The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight.” <--- Incosistency on showing up for senate votes

“we‘ve taken 90 percent of the coalition causalities” in Iraq. One more Classic example from edwards. Cheney responded how "He won‘t count the sacrifice and the contribution of Iraqi allies. It‘s their country. They‘re in the fight. They‘re increasingly the ones out there putting their necks on the line to take back their country from the terrorists and the old regime elements that are still left. They‘re doing a superb job. And for you to demean their sacrifices strikes me as…”

...Goes for the Wundergurl, Galazie, Grapes, I dont have the time to outline and 'Opinion' on who won or not, unless my opinion was ever judged and all i managed to see here was one person (Grapes) attempt to make a statement back except took bits and pieces since you only read enough to make a stupid reply back, if you wondered 'Now' about why i chose 'My' choice, thats why..retort back if you feel like it, don' got time to be arguein over somethin thats a choice of a person all day, but can 'Justify' it any day, hollah back peace

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Only for the three who addressed my comment and read it only if you got the time, reason its so long ^^^^^ since those who want n' outlined opinion, can make sure that they get the opinion, but needed a little more 'Outlining', peace
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^ That was one of the most incoherent, mis-written pieces of crap I've read in a long time. Learn to explain your ideas fully, and with reason, and then come and talk to me.

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Listening to both sides of a debate 'Before' posting, is the only way you can 'Justify' your 'Own' opinion..
How can you possibly understand politics if you can't grasp the simple fact that I said I watched the debate, and I thought that Edwards' performance was much stronger than Cheney's. That comment of yours was probably the most senseless thing I have read all day, and will probably read all week. What, did you think that I made up the debate in my head? For crying out loud.

By the way, what the hell is "genermated"?
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^ That was one of the most incoherent, mis-written pieces of crap I've read in a long time. Learn to explain your ideas fully, and with reason, and then come and talk to me.



How can you possibly understand politics if you can't grasp the simple fact that I said I watched the debate, and I thought that Edwards' performance was much stronger than Cheney's. That comment of yours was probably the most senseless thing I have read all day, and will probably read all week. What, did you think that I made up the debate in my head? For crying out loud.

By the way, what the hell is "genermated"?
Ight,

So you thought that 'Edwards' performance was stronger, that was an opinion..

You where the one who laid out saying who you thought had "Not" watched the debate..how can you possibly understand polictics if "You" think "I made up the debate in my head"..

Listen up, if you jus' came in and said yeah i guess depending on what you where taking from a candidate thats your opinion, all you came in this thread n do was say

"hahaha

I don't know if Harlem Cripz actually WATCHED the debate, but IMO, Cheney got his ass handed to him by Edwards.", ok do the cheney ass handling is your opinion, dope, why was the comment needed for who watched the debate or not, i justifed who i thought won, but you jus dropped a comment ight..

"Learn to explain your ideas fully, and incoherent"..sorry but i outlined pretty much a couple of reasons 'from' the debate where i thought cheney showed strength, all you have managed to do was add on to your redudant cycle of laying an opinion, and its always a strong opinion followed by a statement, with no reason on what you thought edwards showed, why in the first place you considered "I" never watched the debate, then turned it around saying i thought "You" never watched the debate..

I never once doubted your intelliegence, If your gonna make an opinion, at least leave 'why' but dont come in saying who watched it and didnt since thats what 'triggered' it, and if you see some things in there that i 'Quoted" wrong, feel free to poke at em, but i laid out quotes which supported the 'Candidate' who i thought won, but also backed up 'Why"
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"Genermated" babe, is 'generated'..

I dont sit back, edit, make sure ever post is so grammatically correct that i sit back with a thesarus to crossreference words, or make every attempt at making a perfect sentence..

I think the sole fact that, i wrote that all out and i jus type as i go, and thats the only mistake you could come up with was a spellin mistake, really has nothing to do with it..

The spelling shit was lame galaxie ight, i said i respected what opinion you bring, but if your gonna spit back something, either back it up, but dont undermine your own intelliegence by picking at a spelling mistake and trying to draw away from the reality that you attempted to sound smart about who watched what, and you fell flat on your ass..

This is a thread for people who want talk about it, not beef, especially about spelling...somethin post whores and people who make sure there image is never ruined on a forum, doesnt seem like your kinda person, so quit acting like it is and keep it at a opinionated level ight, peace
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