European Nationalist Party is "Racist" says court

[Ms.Chop]

Originally Posted by wum

It's not that simple. That's like saying to my neighbour, "Hey dude, I really like your house. Mind if I move in?" I mean I'm just looking for a better life right?

Denmark is a country of 5 million and probably has a standard of living superior to 95 percent of all of Africa. Do you think they should invite all these Black Africans into their society just because they have a better society?

Think about it. They have a country worth protecting and so do we.

The reason is because white people gel well with white people, and a multi-racial society doesn't work without a shitload of Political Correctness or mongrelization. If Canada was black, it would only make sense to import black people. If you don't believe me, go to a racially divided city like Detroit or Los Angeles where many parts of the city is actually dangerous for white people.

White people run Africa. So you're welcome here :)

I already said I was. I've already said I want to live in a white dominated society and not China.

Look, I just think it's time to take a look at our immigration policy. Vancouver is not Canadian. It's a sattelite Chinese city. I'm sick and tired of social engineers trying to 'diversify' everything to death because they say it makes a 'happy Bouquet' and whenever someone complains they get shouted down as a racist.

If you think I'm the only who thinks this way, why don't you ask yourself where all the white people in Richmond went. It's called WHITE FLIGHT. People move away when they become foreigners in their own country.

number 1 - i did use to live in an area where it was all black.. and if u didnt act black..and u went to the local skool u'd get pick on and beat on.. and bullied..
same w/ the euro skool.. i wasnt italian.. and i got picked on..

number 2 - most parts are run by europeans in africa.. becuz HI, portuguese ppl were the first to start doing the whole taking over of other countries..
- macow, china
- mozambique, south east africa (dad was born here)
- angola, south east africa (mom was born here)
- brazil
- cape verde
- sum place in india

after the portuguese conquered the first place.. i believe it was the french that followed pursuit and then the english..
im educated in my culture, thanks.

number 3 - ive been to richmond like twice in my life.. jackass.. i live in maple ridge which is pretty much white... oh might i add, majority actually 90% white TRASH!..

number 4 - people come to this country.. not because they are forced..
but, becuz they want a BETTER life.. so why not let them?
OBVIOUSLY it should be respectful to the country to learn the culture's, traditions, LANGUAGE.. all that.. as i kno my parents did wen they moved to Canada.. they learned English AND French before they got here..
i remember wen i was younger and lived in toronto...
my mom was friends w/ this black women..
she was from nigeria.. she was having it bad and all that.. she tried her hardest to learn english and then came to Canada.. and made a living.. had a better life...
now, lemme ask u this question...
do u have any actual FRIENDS that are 'fobs'?? (i'll use this word as i please)
like from asia, pakistan, india, africa ..
or anything..

p.s i have morrocan decent... NOW HATE ME ASSHOLE!

[thebobman]

Aight Holmes, it's time you got taken down a peg:

Originally Posted by wum

It's not that simple. That's like saying to my neighbour, "Hey dude, I really like your house. Mind if I move in?" I mean I'm just looking for a better life right?

Denmark is a country of 5 million and probably has a standard of living superior to 95 percent of all of Africa. Do you think they should invite all these Black Africans into their society just because they have a better society?

Firstly, what you fail to realize is that these swams of poor immigrants are pouring in from countries where, for the better part of a thousand years have been exploited and bartered as slaves and commodities to increase the wealth and the quality of living in these cozy little europeen coutries. Thousands of the anscenstors of those people and their neighbors and friends and family, those people fucking worked for FUCK ALL, the SLAVED until they died to allow you to have the economy strong enough that the residents can sit around and bitch and complain about how their loosing jobs, instead of thinking about what corner of the bloody cave they want to huddle in today.

On top of all of that, not a solitary soul of these has made it a lifelong goal to extract any sort of just compensation from any european country for the decimation of their populations and their homes.

And you think that you can sit there and say "OMIGOD! like, there's there guys and they're like not white and that scares me!" Sit the fuck down, that immigrant probably had twice the right to live in denmark as you sorry ass does, fuck, he probably has more reletives buried in unmarked graves there than you have on the continent!

Now, before you drop down your cookie cutter "oh you're a liberal" retort, recognize that I'm a first generation Canadian, with EUROPEAN parents. You think everybody in Canada lives in perfect harmony? Dude, fuck THAT, there's racial profiling and grudges between cultures just like any other place on the earth, but we buck up and DEAL with it.

you wanna whine and complain about the influx of immigrants into Europe? By all means, go ahead, complain until you're blue in the face. but that doesn't mean we need a race based change in our immigration policy. It means there's a need for a

SWEEPING IMMIGRATION POLICY CHANGE
(I know those are big words but use your phonics, you can do it)

Ireland's already done this, so has Australia, it's damned near impossible to get into the country unless you've got living reletives that are born Aussies. You don't see them goose-stepping about, no. They just flat out tightened the doors. It's not a difficult concept.

Secondly, back in 1948 a little gather of countries know and the United Nations got together an wrote a little memo called the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Incidently Belgium, Denmark, Swedan, Holland and Belgium are all founding members since 1945. This delcaration outlined basic human rights which JUST HAPPENED to include freedom from racism. Then, later on, in 1976, that SAME United Nations (YES, Belgium, Denmak, Sweden and Holland are STILL members) got together and drew up the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The FIRST line of the second article, not bloody 200 word in it states:

"1. Each State Party to the present Covenant undertakes to respect and to ensure to all individuals within its territory and subject to its jurisdiction the rights recognized in the present Covenant, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. "

I know that trick, and there's some BIG BOY words in there, but I'm pretty sure you cn pick out WITHOUT, DISTICTIONS and RACE in there.

Basically, the WORLD got together and outlawed exactly what the Vlaams Blok was: A party with policies based on race.

I'd like to take this oppurtunity to tell you, that when they did this Morocco, and pretty much all of africa wasn't invovled, Morocco didn't join the UN until 8 years AFTER the Declaration of Human Rights.

What happened in Belgium wasn't an outrage of social-engineering and anti-hate legislation. It was the following of an INTERNATIONAL LAW put into place nearly 30 years ago to maker sure that arrogant, racists assholes, like yourself for example, aren't allow to get into power.

Boy-Howdy, that might just put a damper on your parade....

Finally, and really, this is most important of all, just shut the fuck up. On a board with nearly 6,000 not one single, solitary person has backed you up or even agreed with you in the slightest.

I want to be perfectly clear about this: Your views and your opinions aren't shared here, theyr'e not wanted here, they're not respected here, and they flat out will NOT be tolerated here.

So either curtail your tiraid of right-wing lunacy or pack up your arm band and your pamphlets and vacate the premises.

[dre420]

Originally Posted by wum

First of all Vlaams Blok has never made proclamations about an "Aryan master race." It's amazing how you Liberals are able to make the logical leap that if there is Western country in the world that is not open to non-white multi-racialist immigration schemes, they are automatically the Nazi Head Quarters.

I never said one thing about the Vlaams Blok making proclamations about an "Aryan master rac." I said they can't go around saying white people are the greatest.

Originally Posted by wum

In other parts of the world, they call this SOVEREIGNTY my friend, and they don't need to apologize for that.

If the BBC published a newspaper, it would not be worth wiping my ass with. They make front page news about Black soccer players being taunted during a soccer game, but there is virtual media black out when it comes to the torturing murder of Kriss Donald who was burned alive by a gang of Pakis. But as you said, perhaps they need to preserve Racial Harmony.?

LOL, yet your whole fuckin argument and post is based on a BBC Article ! here it is, from your first post on this thread.
"Belgium's highest court has ruled that the Flemish far-right Vlaams Blok party is racist.

The ruling means the Blok will lose access to state funding and access to television which will, in effect, shut down the party.

[...]

Recent opinion polls suggest the Vlaams Blok is the most popular party in the Dutch-speaking region of Flanders.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3994867.stm
"

Originally Posted by wum

Of course I don't think that one race should dominate another, but why the hell are you going to make things more volatile by importing millions of racial and cultural aliens just to test your Tolerance? There will always be inequities in a mutli-racial society. I'll be perfectly honest, I never had a problem with Muslims until I got on the train to Rotterdam and a Morrocan started hassling me. What was the point of that exercise?

No one imports milliopns of racial and cultural aliens to test Tolerence, they're braught into the country to help the economy. Why the hell do you think you have to be a skilled worker to immigrate to Canada ? They pick the cream of the crop when it comes to immigrants ( In Canada at least ). Perhaps your country should do that too if they want to patch things up.

Originally Posted by wum

Your solution seems to be to plow ahead with this multi-culturalism (because you're not racist) and then enact laws to keep it from falling apart when the inevitable problems arise.

There is nothing wrong with multiculturalism. If you don't want all this crime committed by immigrants, tighten your immigration laws to only let in skilled workers or people who have relatives in Sweden. How to do this ? Well if the majority wants it like you say they do, they would vote for an alternative to socialism, but guess what they don't. (And don't tell me there are no alternatives, theres centrist and conservative parties, even in (!) Sweden)

Obviously no one agrees with your shit, here or in Europe

Originally Posted by wum

Preaching unconditional love and flooding the Western countries with every race imagineable is not realistic nor desirable. What compells you to destroy and mongrelize European culture and race?

Why don't you ask your government that? After all, they're the ones that joined the UN and signed the proclimation.

[wum]

#1 I’m sure all those people have a very fascinating sob story, but the basis for immigration CANNOT be about HUMANITARIANISM. Sweden made the mistake of taking on all those asylum seekers because they were ‘seeking a better life.’ As has been shown, unemployment rates in Malmo are NINTEY PERCENT and they have forcibly occupied the city and ethnically cleansed what Swedes are left. These people are acting like the country’s Palestinians with the crime rate to match.

I was hoping my Denmark example would speak some sense, but it seems like every Western country MUST help and import millions of people from the Third World even if it means destroying their own society. Do you honestly believe a European country can take on a few million blacks, Muslims, etc. all self-identifying groups with ZERO social consequences?

Just look at the situation in France where it’s en route to becoming the first ISLAMIC STATE in Europe. Do you think the French are happy to go along with this? The truth is, society is been slowly transforming to appease the invaders because otherwise they would start rioting in the streets and probably destroy what ‘unity’ the country had left. Why should people adapt to a new country if there are enough of them to form a self-sustaining community?

“Now, before you drop down your cookie cutter "oh you're a liberal" retort, recognize that I'm a first generation Canadian, with EUROPEAN parents. You think everybody in Canada lives in perfect harmony? Dude, fuck THAT, there's racial profiling and grudges between cultures just like any other place on the earth, but we buck up and DEAL with it.”

#2 this is exactly my point. Multi-Racial, Multi-Cultural societies are fraught with problems. So why in the world do we keep worshipping the DIVERSITY gods and trying to make things volatile. Nova Scotia is dead set against multi-culturalism and yet when Steve Streatch says they don’t want it the guy is lambasted as a racist and is asked to resign. What the fuck is this insanity?

Think about this: are there any peaceful multi-racial societies that you can think of? Look at Yugoslavia, the former Soviet Union, South Africa, Northern India, Southern California, Detroit, or MalmoSweden! Buddy, good for you if you have a few friends from different backgrounds but there’s never been a ‘multi-cultural’ nation that has lived to tell the tale. Once the dominant group dips below 70 percent, all hell breaks loose (Thomas Chittum).

#2 International Law, or whatever the hell the UN stated is not what I’m debating. Hell, if you’re going to go by their criteria of “Anti-Discrimination” you can pretty much kiss away any so-called European “nations” anymore. They’d all be polyglot racial hell holes. Since the Chinese and Turks are so desperate to leave their own countries, first world nations like Sweden and Germany would be SWAMPED. In Rotterdam I’ve already seen first hand public schools where they are completely Chinese and Kurdish.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Ms.Chop

number 3 - ive been to richmond like twice in my life.. jackass.. i live in maple ridge which is pretty much white... oh might i add, majority actually 90% white TRASH!..

number 4 - people come to this country.. not because they are forced..
but, becuz they want a BETTER life.. so why not let them?
OBVIOUSLY it should be respectful to the country to learn the culture's, traditions, LANGUAGE.. all that.. as i kno my parents did wen they moved to Canada.. they learned English AND French before they got here..

p.s i have morrocan decent... NOW HATE ME ASSHOLE!

Your family is obviously an acception to the idea that wum is trying to portray. "my family this! my family that!" There is a much larger picture. Did you ever take into consideration the fact that these people come from countries with completely different backgrounds and cultures than ours??and have grown up that way since time could tell?? Part of the reason they migrate is because they see their people penetrating certain areas within host countries. They think to themselves "Home away from home."

Do you know why that school was held up in RUSSIA??? Oh yeah, terrorists. Do you know why people don't want muslims in their country?? BECAUSE EVERY TIME THEY GET TOGETHER AND CREATE THERE OWN CITIES IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. WHAT THEY REALLY WANT IS THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!! DUH!! I BET NATIVES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THERE OWN GOVERNMENT TOO! BUT THEY HAVE COMMON SENSE! YOU WOULDN'T SEE A BAND OF NATIVES BLOWING UP A SCHOOL OF CHILDREN! THEY ABIDE BY OUR LAWS ONLY UNTIL THEY'VE GOT MAJORITY! NATIVES DON'T MULTIPLY LIKE RABBITS!

[wum]

Originally Posted by dre420

I never said one thing about the Vlaams Blok making proclamations about an "Aryan master rac." I said they can't go around saying white people are the greatest.

They are a NATIONALIST party that represents the people of their nation. Stop trying to tie in all this Holocaust and WWII bullshit just because they don't subscribe to some demented 'rainbow' ideology.

Originally Posted by dre420

LOL, yet your whole fuckin argument and post is based on a BBC Article ! here it is, from your first post on this thread.
"Belgium's highest court has ruled that the Flemish far-right Vlaams Blok party is racist."

My argument was that they are suppressing Democratic Nationalist parties. The BBC can do so much as distort and omit, but they cannot simply make up the news. But they didn't even do a good job here. They seem obsessed with the word "Nazi" and "biggoted" every time a group comes to power that objects to the Muslim invasion.

Originally Posted by dre420

Why don't you ask your government that? After all, they're the ones that joined the UN and signed the proclimation.

You are such a fucking tool. You mean if things are going to hell in a hand basket, I should be assured because this is something my 'government' decided on and that I shouldn't worry anymore? :) What a great attitude: "Well if things could be changed, it would've happened already. Meh."

Canada doesn't need to import indo-china when their population already has an unemployment rate of 7%. The country's job is to take care of it's OWN people first, instead of serving the corporations who need an endless stream of cheap labor.

[wum]

A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago that a $30,000 bounty would be paid for the murder of several prominent Danish Jews, a threat that garnered wide international notice. Less well known is that this is just one problem associated with Denmark's approximately 200,000 Muslim immigrants. The key issue is that many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country.

For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and insisted they had no problem with the Muslim customs - until one day they found that they did. Some major issues:

* Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq - constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.

* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.

* Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.

* Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.

Another is threats to kill Muslims who convert out of Islam. One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who went public to explain why she had changed religion, felt the need to hide her face and conceal her identity, fearing for her life.

* Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence threatens Denmark's approximately 6,000 Jews, who increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish parents were told by one school principal that she could not guarantee their children's safety and were advised to attend another institution. Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews . . . wherever you find them."

* Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.


http://www.danielpipes.org/article/450

[dre420]

Originally Posted by wum

They are a NATIONALIST party that represents the people of their nation. Stop trying to tie in all this Holocaust and WWII bullshit just because they don't subscribe to some demented 'rainbow' ideology.

BAHAHAHA, they represent the people of the nation. That's a good one. So that is why they were getting a peak of 24% support in the country?

Originally Posted by wum

You are such a fucking tool. You mean if things are going to hell in a hand basket, I should be assured because this is something my 'government' decided on and that I shouldn't worry anymore? :) What a great attitude: "Well if things could be changed, it would've happened already. Meh."

Awww boo hoo, did I make you angry :*(

Too bad you can't do a FUCKING THING about multiculturalism in Sweden or elsewhere. Go ahead, express your opinion, and try to convince people to join your side. It will never happen. The truth is multiculturalism is here to stay, and you can't do a fucking thing about it.

Who are you trying to convince anyways? This is a messageboard for vancouver ravers, not Liberal HQ.

Post as much shit as you want, it feels good knowing you're in the political minority, and you allways will be :)

[wum]

^ What is it with people and their suicidal tendencies?

"You can't stop the invasion. BWAHAHAHA!!!!"

[dre420]

Originally Posted by wum

They are a NATIONALIST party that represents the people of their nation. Stop trying to tie in all this Holocaust and WWII bullshit just because they don't subscribe to some demented 'rainbow' ideology.

My argument was that they are suppressing Democratic Nationalist parties. The BBC can do so much as distort and omit, but they cannot simply make up the news. But they didn't even do a good job here. They seem obsessed with the word "Nazi" and "biggoted" every time a group comes to power that objects to the Muslim invasion.

So this is not racist? Coming straight from the mouth of Vlaams BLok leader:
Filip Dewinter
"When I see Muslim culture I think that our culture is superior. Our values, our way of life are superior and we have to say so. I don't think the way of life of Muslims is compatible with our way of life."

Hmm... superioir, wow sure sounds familiar !

PS: Still haven't answered my question !
Who are you trying to convince anyways? This is a messageboard for vancouver ravers, not Liberal HQ. You're not going to change immigration laws by posting here.

[wum]

Originally Posted by dre420

So this is not racist? Coming straight from the mouth of Vlaams BLok leader:
Filip Dewinter
"When I see Muslim culture I think that our culture is superior. Our values, our way of life are superior and we have to say so. I don't think the way of life of Muslims is compatible with our way of life."

Hmm... superioir, wow sure sounds familiar !

Oh my Lord! He has the audacity to say Western European culture is superior to female genital mutilation and animal sacrifice! Hitler!!!! :)

I don't think you've actually been reading my posts or fully comprehend them, so I'll keep it short. Nationalist parties are DISCRIMINATORY. They DISCRIMINATE against foreign cultures, and foreign races. They support nationalism and are against INVASION.

Obviously you're a product of public education where you believe anyone who objects to multi-culturalism is a Nazi.

Originally Posted by dre420

PS: Still haven't answered my question !
Who are you trying to convince anyways? This is a messageboard for vancouver ravers, not Liberal HQ. You're not going to change immigration laws by posting here.

I've already made 3 fans out of this :)

[robyn]

Originally Posted by wum

I've already made 3 fans out of this :)

And how many enemies?

[dre420]

Originally Posted by wum

Oh my Lord! He has the audacity to say Western European culture is superior to female genital mutilation and animal sacrifice! Hitler!!!! :)

You know damn right that is not what all of African/Middle Easter culture is like. But sure, bring in your stereotypes :)

Originally Posted by wum

I don't think you've actually been reading my posts or fully comprehend them, so I'll keep it short. Nationalist parties are DISCRIMINATORY. They DISCRIMINATE against foreign cultures, and foreign races. They support nationalism and are against INVASION.

Well what are you going to do after you ban all non-european immigration?Seems like the only way it will go from there is ethnic cleansing. You said it yourself, they DISCRIMINATE against foreign cultures and foreign races. Whats to stop them from killing all Dutch born or Swedish born muslims then?

Originally Posted by wum

Obviously you're a product of public education where you believe anyone who objects to multi-culturalism is a Nazi.
I've already made 3 fans out of this :)

Nah, I wouldn't call University public education :)

Hmm, you do know that BC is one of the most socialist provinces in Canada, right ? You won't have many fans of your ideology here.

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by wum

I've already made 3 fans out of this :)

ur ranting has become very tiresome.
perhaps u and your "fans" should post on this forum instead.
i am sure they are more receiptive to your thoughts.

[wum]

Originally Posted by dre420

Well what are you going to do after you ban all non-european immigration?Seems like the only way it will go from there is ethnic cleansing. You said it yourself, they DISCRIMINATE against foreign cultures and foreign races. Whats to stop them from killing all Dutch born or Swedish born muslims then?

Dutch Muslim? That's an oxymoron. They were never wanted in the first place, and they're not wanted now. Heavy duty repatriation is in order, which is already starting in waves with the craziest 26,000 being deported. :)

[sNyx]

yeah this thread is out of hand.
wum, consider this your warning..