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Jan 08, 02
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why whp shouldn't have a msg board
disclamer: Chris is bored at work...
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Jan 08, 02
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I was going to appologize cause I thought posting it here was lame
but then I read it again, and laughed, then sonik backed me up I wish the title was diffrent though, it isn't an attack against whp, it's an attack against stupidity in general.
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Jan 08, 02
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How the doodle would the scene benefit if the vancouver hospital was part of WHP?
It would suck so much cock it would make a 12 year old surrey girl feel jealous. Im still in the team, but its stupid dreams like that shit. If it was a real plan to get VGH on the whp collective, i'd be out of there faster than a jewish foreskin (which probably didnt make sense) - SoniK
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Jan 08, 02
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WHP
Kris Taylor of WHP is a joke. All this talk about doing good for the scene, and for the rest of the world. Fact is, it's all talk, he's been doing this shit for about what 2 years now, and nothing has changed nothing has been done, etc. WHP is a failure. I'm getting sick of hearing about it actually.
I stopped ragging on him for the longest time, and I don't intend on continuing, I felt this just had to be said here. FUCK WHP. :211:
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Jan 08, 02
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Jason,
Everyone has their opinions about WHP. Most of them are very bad. What would you like to see change in the WHP collective. Ideas/comments/suggestions are always welcomed. If there is one thing you'd want changed from WHP (And no you cannot say shutting it down, because Kris is not going to take the easy way out) please state it here. No need to make it a flame, im just wanting to know what you'd change. - SoniK
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Jan 08, 02
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ooo meanies
Anyways...
A) yes that guy has been kicked off the team. Security guy who's spent about 15 minutes listening to the music-turned promoter genius and BK mafioso (as well as crappy roomate) is ghandi B) No I'm not going to take the easy way out because I love the music C) thanks for the promo Ninjaboy... You can go back to the URL for a taste of the new WHP... in case you forgot its www.wickedhouseparty.org and D) Oddmud.. The reason nothings changed yet is because getting the scene to work together takes more than just me. It takes everybody and flamewars just doesnt cut it. finally E) WHP will never die
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Jan 08, 02
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Re: ooo meanies
A) What a shame, wait, what did you need a security guy for?
B)Damn C)Yes, the good plublicity for whatever it is. wait, what do you guys do now? I haven't seen any drunken pot fueled basement parties for a while? D)Or it could be the fact the scene works together, but your normally left out. Your kinda like france, you think your the center of the world, and nobody supports you. E) Talk to me in a year.
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Jan 08, 02
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well it works like this
The number of times you spammed message boards multiplied by the size of your holier then though, saviour of the scene ego mulitplied by the fact that you think non profit parties are exclusive to you plus the replies you make to our comments, which prove to be too funny divideded by the amount of free time I have to push all your buttons (in a non sexual way sonik) equals: your answer ta-da
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Jan 08, 02
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Re: Ok then
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-Don't claim uber promoter status, till you do something that warrents it -Realize, that your not going to save the scene. -Non profit parties happen every weekend -do not spam people -stop calling yourself a collective, it makes you sound like a pud -use venues -shut up about whp radio, my cousin has shoutcast too. -try and understand, why so many people and promoters hate you, and trust me, it's not cause it's trendy -Your throwing small parties, don't act like your a mover and shaker in the scene. -Showing off the size of your dj collective, is just plain dumb, anyone can make a dj collective that big, cause everyone is a dj -You are not international. -You are not international. I know that was just said, but since it's such a big point I thought it has to be said twice -know your place, not to be mean, but damn't man, your not richie hawtin (aka god) -I'm sure you throw nice parties occasionally, but that's it. -The scene don't need saving. Take this advice and see me in a few days. Last edited by NinjaBoy; Jan 08, 02 at 03:47 PM.
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Jan 08, 02
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Response...
Listen man... Nobody's perfect. And I've made mistakes like everyone else. Please please please cut me some slack and stop treating me like the Alliance party treats Stockwell Day..
-Know when to promote and when not to promote I learned that lesson. Now I only promote when something is actually going on. I ensure that theres only one post for Tribeca and that it doesnt generate multiple threads. WHP radio will be the same philosophy once the studio is set up again. -Don't claim uber promoter status, till you do something that warrents it I would respond to this but I dont think I have ever claimed "uber promoter status", nor do I know what that is. This isnt some witty comment. If you really mean "upper" I have not claimed that ever perhaps you had inferred that I had. -Realize, that your not going to save the scene. Single handedly, no. With help from people like you and others, maybe. Ideally, I want you and everyone on-side to make this thing work. I really need the help, I cant do it all alone. I have a vision and its not perfect, but with tweaking and correcting as we go along eventually, one day, it may be. -Non profit parties happen every weekend Yes, yes they do. The difference with these parties and the parties that I envision is that they are rather exclusive and not open for general attendance. Think of a nonprofit Spooky 6... That's my dream. A $5.00 massive that the city sponsors and actually condones, complete with beer gardens, blablabla all kinds of stuff. While you may not really want to see this yourself, this is the tangent that I would like to see WHP move toward. I can handle that not everyone would want to go to an event like that, and obviously you have to start small. -do not spam people er... I learned that a quite a while ago. Some people have ended up in my address book and gotten some accidental messages, when I send one-offs, but I havent done that very often for quite some time now so they arent frequent. Actually that process stopped yesterday, as part of a legacy process for those who hadnt subscribed to the official list. Now everyone who gets the WHP newsletter subscribed. If they dont want it, they can unsubscribe. -stop calling yourself a collective, it makes you sound like a pud There are many collectives in this town that you dont call puds. The term collective is simply meant as a descriptor for what it is and how we operate. As a collective, everyone chips in to create the end-result. It's not the "Wickedhouseparty Collective". It's just "Wickedhouseparty". -use venues We have.. Wickedhouseparty Girls was held at a Venue. Vancouver Gets Wicked was to be held at a venue but was cancelled because of the transit strike. Wickedchristmasparty was cancelled both because of your threats to throw a party under that guise as well as because a venue was difficult to secure. The only Wickedhouseparty events that are held as houseparties are team-only. I dont want to throw general attendance events at my house. -shut up about whp radio, my cousin has shoutcast too. And so does Crazy Dave, and everyone else who can download it. WHP radio is not shoutcast. WHP radio is serviced via a relay (L365) which uses Nanocaster and can serve 1500 listners. Unless your cousin is running an OC3, it's unlikely that his/her shoutcast can serve that many listners. -try and understand, why so many people and promoters hate you, and trust me, it's not cause it's trendy I am not entirely sure why this is.. My guess is because we're doing it for free / nonprofit which if successful will lower the overall cost, while they are doing it for money, and if they are successful the price will go up. My only other guess is because I'm not about to sit around and do a ton of ass-kissing to get where I want to go. As far as I'm concerned, ass-kissing is a complete waste of time- sometimes people who want their ass kissed disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and its neither of these two guesses. Until they give me constructive feedback I'll never know. -Your throwing small parties, don't act like your a mover and shaker in the scene. I'm no mover and shaker. I'm trying to be a catalyst for change, trying to get everyone to work together. People like Form&Koas, Al Harding, Azim, Riel and others are the real mover-shakers. I need the support of the mover-shakers to make this work and I have approached them on this. Ironically, most of the real mover-shakers are totally on-side with what I'm doing and think it's great and want to see it grow. I know this because they've told me. -Showing off the size of your dj collective, is just plain dumb, anyone can make a dj collective that big, cause everyone is a dj The size of the collective is the key to it's success. When you get 50 people all working toward the same goal you can accomplish anything. Not everyone on the WHP team is a DJ - its about having pure, unadulterated fun and helping to make it. -You are not international. -You are not international. I know that was just said, but since it's such a big point I thought it has to be said twice With WHP in Italy & USA and more in the works we could very well be international. I dont know why you brought this up because I dont really make a big deal out of it. -know your place, not to be mean, but damn't man, your not richie hawtin (aka god) I'm not a god. If I thought I was a god, I wouldnt be down on the ground trying to build a team. Sorry, but "know your place" is a phrase that is for the closed minded and those who figure that they can't outgrow and break the label someone else has given them. Thats one that I wont listen to. Ninjaboy or Chris or whatever you like best to be called... The reason you frustrate me so with all of your detracting comments is because while the task that I am trying to accomplish is very noble and good, it is also extremely challening. In trying to accomplish what WHP is supposed to do, there are three main challenges: 1) Keeping the team together Keeping the team together and unified is difficult as it is, without you and your friends constantly bashing WHP to peices wherever you can find. Something in it's infancy is at its weakest point, and this is the point we are at now. While the team would be easy to keep together if it was me and two friends, it isnt. Having over 40 members in the organization and trying to keep them all on-track to what is happening and helping out is very very very difficult. Everyone leads different lives and since nobody is getting paid, there isnt a monetary bait like some other promotion outfits. 2) Moving forward Despite major setbacks, like Wickedchristmasparty being cancelled, WHP is moving forward, but slowly. Tribeca is a start to Wickedhouseparty moving toward the objective of one night out for our DJs every single night of the week. Throwing another party is also important as the last party we threw was March 2001. Forging alliances with the real mover-shakers is also part of moving forward with this thing. 3) Damage Control Other than you and your friends bashing WHP to peices on every message board, WHP has done an excellent job of damage control. We've had two parties cancelled and managed to ensure that: nobody is ever sold a ticket until the venue is ready, and that nobody has been dissapointed by a WHP event and sent home by the cops. In fact, as it stands the only damage to control right now is the damage that you cause. It takes a lot of effort and you're quite good at making the mess, so it's hard to clean up if it can be done at all. I would like you to please understand a few things: a) I work like three hours per day on Wickedhouseparty. b) I love it and it really hurts me personally when you try to destroy it for fun c) I understand that I am not a god, an echelon, an icon, the savior of the scene, a webmaster genius, or anything else. d) Wickedhouseparty is my way of giving back to the scene. I may make mistakes but I do everything in good faith with a noble heart. e) You are so persistent that you are wearing me thin and tired. I am trying to make this thing work and to have you constantly fight and fight against it.... well it not only hurts me but tires me out from doing the good that I want to do. So please please... I beg you please. Just let Wickedhouseparty alone and hopefully for everyone, one day, WHP will be a big success and everyone can share in that success and enjoy it. If it bombs and fails, at least I tried to incite the change which I feel the scene deserves and worked hard and did not give up. Maybe you will say "I told you so" but I will know that I gave it my all. As you said, the one thing about the rave scene is that you if you dont like something, you can choose to try to change it. I'm sorry for the hella nasty PM but ... well... people get pissed off somtimes when their ass is being ridden this hard. peacout
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Re: Response...
MOTHER FUCK
Jesus, you took this wayyyyy to seriously. But since you wrote such a long winded reply, I will challange it, ninjaboy style. Quote:
studio? you mean plugging the turntables into a computer... Quote:
don't act like an uber promter [quote] -Realize, that your not going to save the scene. Single handedly, no. With help from people like you and others, maybe. Ideally, I want you and everyone on-side to make this thing work. I really need the help, I cant do it all alone. I have a vision and its not perfect, but with tweaking and correcting as we go along eventually, one day, it may be. [/quote ] Your on the wrong isde of the fence. Everyone does work together, but your not included in it. Quote:
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Around that time batman comes in though, and takes us all down. Seriously, look at marks arm, it got cut clean off. Everyone does non profit parties, so it's not that we fear your 5-15 dollar ticket prices. Quote:
I sent, Azim an email about my small company, he said something along the lines of "Keep working with it, I fully support you, and don't forget to eat your vitamins little hulkster!" Quote:
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if only their were more heros like you, the world would be a better place. but then again, there aren't, which is why we have batman Quote:
There are other groups that do the same thing, for no money too you know. Quote:
The last thing you did was in march.... damn. Quote:
the few parties i have helped with were not busted either. Wow. Quote:
WOW! 50 people! Quote:
[quote] a) I work like three hours per day on Wickedhouseparty. [quote] it takes you three hours a day to organize tuesday nights at a resturant. you should consider a new hobby. Quote:
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BEER gardens? Government involvement? If that's giving back to the scene that's like saying punching old people is helping the elderly. Quote:
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Some people are just useless, and you my friend are one of them. And I'm spent. cubed Last edited by cubed; Jan 08, 02 at 05:56 PM.
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Jan 08, 02
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Bahahaha wtf??? 'lets throw a rave for the sick children'
yeah your a modern day ghandi buddy.... riiiighhht. oh shit are you going to send the borg after me now? so yeah.. lets throw a partie for the sick kids, and give them some glowsticks and e so we can make money to buy them some phat pants. this is sad.. very sad.
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Jan 08, 02
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kris, keep on chasing that rainbow..
because you're never going to get anywhere with this "WHP" crap. i think its obviously by the public's response that everyone could care less about what you're trying [note, TRYING.] to do for 'the scene. there's a lot of people that don't make money ont heir parties, in fact, they *gasp* LOSE money... you dont see them self-promoting every post they make, do you? no. i rest my case. maybe someone will give a shit about your half-assed effort to 'the scene' when you stop being such a lamer, and get in gear/get organized, and do something worthwhile. and my endless sense of optimism is saying that won't be any time soon.. oh dearie me, whatever will we do without WHP? *laughs hysterically, falls off chair laughing* point proven. :) lost soul_
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Jan 08, 02
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and why the fuck would the sick kids neccesarily like electronica? im pretty sure theyd be happy listening to their JAY-Z and their britney spears.. ahaha reetard lost soul_
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Jan 08, 02
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INTERNATIONAL RAVER COLLECTIVE CURES LEUKEMIA WITH HARDHOUSE/TRANCE
actual live testimonials billy: "WHP cured my disease, THANK YOU KRIS!" sally: "that thumping beat really improved my brain tumor" gerry: "im part of their collective now! everyone said i couldnt DJ without arms, but kris helped me achieve my goal.. now if only mom would let me go to a rave"  billy enjoying a new WHP mix at home. THANK YOU WHP!! :Kimmie:
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