Interesting article

[oliver]

Taken from Dancesafe.org



3. Top Ten Most Ridiculous Statements Made About Ravers

#10. "If you take your child to a rave, they could be
on psychiatric medication the rest of their life because
of the experience." - Dr. Michael Copass, Harborview
Medical Center, Seattle

#9. "Ravers often insert flashing red lights in their
belly buttons--held in place with a mild adhesive--and
pin blinking lights in the shape of hearts, stars, and
animals to their clothing to provide additional visual
stimulation to MDMA users." - National Drug
Intelligence Center (NDIC)

#8. "Some of the dances in the desert are no longer just
dances, they're like violent crack houses set to music."
- Michelle Leonhart, Special Agent, Los Angeles DEA.

#7. "Raves, under any name, are a lucrative business and
are frequently the sites of crimes such as
pharmaceutical diversion, rape, property damage, gang
violence, drug sales, robberies, assaults, and murder."
- Anonymous undercover police officer in Michigan

#6. "Ravers often wear bright accessories like
earrings made of either plastic beads or pill-shaped
sugar candies. MDMA users sometimes use these
accessories to disguise their drugs, stringing MDMA
tablets mixed with the candies." - NDIC

#5. "If you see a girl and a boy in the dark, chewing
pacifiers and waving colored wands, they're probably on
Ecstasy." - Johnson County Sheriff J.D. Richards

#4. "Ravers wear T-shirts, bikini tops, tank tops, tube
tops, and open-back halter tops to help keep cool. After
hours of dancing and often after using MDMA, many ravers
have removed most of their clothing." - NDIC

#3. "Several DJs and bands, unfamiliar to most people,
are internationally famous." - NDIC

#2. "They buy them. They have them on their hands. They
have halos. It's freaky looking. They're high on
drugs." - Undercover Agent in New Hampshire

and from the same undercover agent ...

#1. "You watch these kids walking around with glow
sticks all over their heads, with surgical masks on,
with glow sticks in their mouths, with pacifiers. You're
not talking just one. There are groups of kids walking
around like this. That's the norm. Who figured all this
out, I don't know. Where did it come from?"

[oliver]

There is a fine line between Police doing their job, and infringing on people's rights/causing more trouble than they prevent. I'd say this is a quite a fair bit over that line. Thoughts anyone?

The below is taken from Dancesafe.org




1. Police Raid DanceSafe Benefit in St. Louis; Trample
Civil Rights. ACLU & DS Preparing Class Action Suit.

On Saturday, July 14th, a rave party was raided in
Potosi, Missouri. This event was to benefit St. Louis
DanceSafe and Big Brothers and Big Sisters of America.

At approximately 8:45, at least 20 or 30 police cars,
two fire trucks, two ambulances, a police van, a prison
bus, five K-9 units, and a helicopter converged on the
party. Over one hundred and fifty individuals were
rounded up at gunpoint, and detained against their will
for about two and a half hours. Their vehicles, tents
and person (pockets, shoes, hair) were searched without
consent. They were informed that if they refused
searches they would be arrested. Minors were questioned
without a legal guardian present. Two puppies were maced
when curiosity brought them too close to the drug dogs.

Those attending the event were peaceful throughout the
entire process (the officers mentioned that the fire
trucks were there just in case the ravers started
"firebombing the police"). DanceSafe director AJ Cook
was loudly reading the ACLU rights card, and many
witnesses heard officers yelling that they had to arrest
him to keep him quiet. Cook and others requested to see
a copy of the warrant, and were refused.

This event occurred the night after another rave at the
same venue. The affidavits from the undercover officers
present the first night cited massive drug activity,
including cocaine, methamphetamine, and syringes. There
were "kids using every kind of drug you can imagine,"
said Washington County Sheriff Gary Yount. The warrant
also mentioned a "rumor" that the $2 bottled water
contained ecstasy. This blatantly embellished data,
along with a falsified claim that the property owner had
registered a complaint against the event, was the basis
for a fraudulent warrant to raid the event and
confiscate the supposed drugs and drug paraphernalia.

The results of this massive illegal search were three
misdemeanor drug charges, and a warrant served for a
traffic offense. The sheriff commented, "we didn't find
too much," and "I swear there were drugs there the night
before".

Though we may take some solace in how foolish those
responsible for this travesty now appear, it does not
compensate for the utter abrogation of responsibility
that law enforcement showed in their intent and
execution of this raid. They not only wasted many
thousands of dollars of taxpayers money, they ruthlessly
trampled the rights of American citizens who traveled to
this charity event from around the country.

One attendee who drove from Wisconsin had his prized
photo album confiscated as evidence. It contained over
250 photos and was carried in remembrance of all the
friends he has made. Tents, cars and personal property
were trashed as the search became more frantic. "We have
to find something," witnesses repeatedly heard officers
yelling.

The ACLU has taken an active interest in this debacle,
as have police abuse watchdog groups. At this time,
statements, photos and video are being collected from
attendees. The local rave community, which numbers in
the thousands, has mobilized over this event. It has
become clear that it is time to stand up for our rights.

Legal action is looming.

David Jacobs and AJ Cook, St. Louis DanceSafe

[Rytalin]

This is why I'm glad to be canadian.

So I don't have to deal with bullshit like that.


like, FUCK.


A prison bus???
helicopters????


rumors of mdma in bottles water?????

[Rytalin]

#7. "Raves, under any name, are a lucrative business and
are frequently the sites of crimes such as
pharmaceutical diversion, rape, property damage, gang
violence, drug sales, robberies, assaults, and murder."
- Anonymous undercover police officer in Michigan




BAHAHAHA!!

you know what that reminds me of?

Fear and loathing in los vegas.

"KNOW YOUR DOPE FIEND. HIS PANTS ARE STAINED WITH SEMEN FROM JACKING OFF WHEN HE CAN'T FIND A RAPE VICTIM.."

god damn propoganda.

[silverfish]

Originally posted by Rytalin
This is why I'm glad to be canadian.

So I don't have to deal with bullshit like that.


like, FUCK.


A prison bus???
helicopters????


rumors of mdma in bottles water?????

you think that doesn't happen here???????????? HAHAHAHA!!!!! look at the archives on any news paper in the lower mainland. or even further away, like in halifax where underage girls were cavity searched (illegally) by police without due cause or warrent!

i've seen first hand stuff almost as bad as in those articles, some even WORSE!!!!!

my favorite was an article quoating a richmond city hall meeting i attended in 1999........ a richm city councillor said raves need to be shut down because of the risk of disease being spread.... by "ravers sharing NEEDLES TO SHOOT THEIR ECSTASY!!!!" i was dumbfounded.

or last year, the menangitis "outbreak" among ravers, because of ravers being too cuddly in saskatchewan (from vancouver sun).

or the need to shut raves down because of the "outbreak" of scabies in vancouver raves (van sun, 1998).

or the Plaza of nations raves that feature the "trend of extinguishing lit cigarrettes on skin because it feels good on E" (the province, 2000). same article, "most ravers are taken away from plaza raves on stretchers".

look on
http//www.richmondreview.com
http://www.richmond-new.com
http://www.abbotsfordtimes.com/
http://www.burnabynow.com/
http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/
http://www.thenownews.com/
http://www.delta-optimist.com/
http://www.langleyadvance.com/index.shtml
http://www.mrtimes.com/index.shtml
http://www.nsnews.com/
http://www.royalcityrecord.com/
http://www.thenownewspaper.com/
http://www.vancourier.com/index.shtml
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/theprovince/

look at back issues. or just punch in the word "rave".
similarily, if you want, look at past city hall reccords/minutes/bylaws.

[rawb]

Originally posted by silverfish

i've seen first hand stuff almost as bad as in those articles, some even WORSE!!!!!

***
At approximately 8:45, at least 20 or 30 police cars,
two fire trucks, two ambulances, a police van, a prison
bus, five K-9 units, and a helicopter converged on the
party. Over one hundred and fifty individuals were
rounded up at gunpoint, and detained against their will
for about two and a half hours.
***

worse than this?

i seem to never recall anything like this.

r.

[silverfish]

junglet~~~~

thankyou for posting these articles! i had never noticed them on the Dancesafe site..... could you please post the exact url or directions to where you found those articles? i'd like to include excerpts in my book, and i need proper citations.

thanks a bunch,
http://members.fotki.com/silverfish

[silverfish]

Originally posted by werdyboy


***
At approximately 8:45, at least 20 or 30 police cars,
two fire trucks, two ambulances, a police van, a prison
bus, five K-9 units, and a helicopter converged on the
party. Over one hundred and fifty individuals were
rounded up at gunpoint, and detained against their will
for about two and a half hours.
***

worse than this?

i seem to never recall anything like this.

r.

yes, this is probably one of the worst things i've seen published, but i have thousands of articles, hundreds of magazines, and many books~~~ all devoted to the rave scene across the world. you'd be surprised at some extreme measures the canadian, us, and british police and governments have practiced in their "war on drugs", "war on raves", etc.

i've been at parties where cops have come in with K-9 unites, guns, peppar spray, riot gear, battons swinging, etc.

infact, one vancouver party bust was aired on To Serve And Protect... the cops really went to the extreme infront of the cameras.

http://members.fotki.com/silverfish

[oliver]

http://www.dancesafe.org/news/current.php


go to "Literature"upper middle of page, then click on the "Ds News" icon, it should be there. Glad you enjoyed it. :)

[NinjaBoy]

who brings puppies to a rave?

[inkster]

Originally posted by Junglet
Taken from Dancesafe.org
#10. "If you take your child to a rave, they could be
on psychiatric medication the rest of their life because
of the experience." - Dr. Michael Copass, Harborview
Medical Center, Seattle

Ridiculous.

#9. "Ravers often insert flashing red lights in their
belly buttons--held in place with a mild adhesive--and
pin blinking lights in the shape of hearts, stars, and
animals to their clothing to provide additional visual
stimulation to MDMA users." - National Drug
Intelligence Center (NDIC)

True.

#8. "Some of the dances in the desert are no longer just
dances, they're like violent crack houses set to music."
- Michelle Leonhart, Special Agent, Los Angeles DEA.

Ridiculous.

#7. "Raves, under any name, are a lucrative business and
are frequently the sites of crimes such as
pharmaceutical diversion, rape, property damage, gang
violence, drug sales, robberies, assaults, and murder."
- Anonymous undercover police officer in Michigan

True of the massives.

#6. "Ravers often wear bright accessories like
earrings made of either plastic beads or pill-shaped
sugar candies. MDMA users sometimes use these
accessories to disguise their drugs, stringing MDMA
tablets mixed with the candies." - NDIC

True.

#5. "If you see a girl and a boy in the dark, chewing
pacifiers and waving colored wands, they're probably on
Ecstasy." - Johnson County Sheriff J.D. Richards

True.

#4. "Ravers wear T-shirts, bikini tops, tank tops, tube
tops, and open-back halter tops to help keep cool. After
hours of dancing and often after using MDMA, many ravers
have removed most of their clothing." - NDIC

True.

#3. "Several DJs and bands, unfamiliar to most people,
are internationally famous." - NDIC

True.

#2. "They buy them. They have them on their hands. They
have halos. It's freaky looking. They're high on
drugs." - Undercover Agent in New Hampshire

True. Ravers are freaky lookin'. Go figger.

and from the same undercover agent ...

#1. "You watch these kids walking around with glow
sticks all over their heads, with surgical masks on,
with glow sticks in their mouths, with pacifiers. You're
not talking just one. There are groups of kids walking
around like this. That's the norm. Who figured all this
out, I don't know. Where did it come from?"

This is number 1? Should this be the most important one or something? I can barely even see how it's related to the theme. If there is one in the first place...

Really... wtf is dancesafe doing? RAVES ARE UNHEALTHY. People do weird things at them. Why should we be in denial of this?

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[inkster]

Originally posted by Junglet
Two puppies were maced
when curiosity brought them too close to the drug dogs.

Bullshit.

Why the fuck were there puppies at this rave?

There weren't any fucking puppies at this rave.

They were only put there in this article to promote hatred towards the big bad police. Because if having a few hundred people's rights get violated won't offend us, then certainly some puppies getting hurt will.

That being said, this article has absolutely no credibility at all, and I have lost respect for Dancesafe if they have indeed posted this on their website.

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[NinjaBoy]

But... the puppies man, don't diss them!

Puppies, come on! There cute, and helpless and the police for some reason maced them

quite frankly some litlte puppies get close to a police dog, my money's on the police dog, which makes me question why police would do it.

These police dogs mame murder's. I'm sure the puppy wouldn't exactly worry me. Even if my dog was another puppy, puppies can't do shit, except hump your leg

[tHeBoA]

omg.. shows how ignorant some people are, but then again some of those are true.. everything i was gonna say has already been said, so yea.

[jade]

crazy.

[IvoryBaby]

those two articles were the most offending thing i have ever read in my entire life...

and im not even a "raver".

it makes me sad to think that there is so much ignorance out there. :043: