Another noobie computer question

e_BoY · #1 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

Im just about to buy my new computer and at the moment i am planning to get a real copy of windows xp. figured it would be good to have my own real copy. Previously whenever i needed to reformat i would just borrow somebodys burnt version of xp. So is there any difference? Advantage of having a real version? Yes i am a computer noobie when it comes to crap like this.

mapleleaf4ever · #2 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

Tech Support, Upgrades and piece of Mind that Micro$oft won't come crashing through your Door with the FBI to sue your ass. :)

sh4un · #3 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by e_BoY

Im just about to buy my new computer and at the moment i am planning to get a real copy of windows xp. figured it would be good to have my own real copy. Previously whenever i needed to reformat i would just borrow somebodys burnt version of xp. So is there any difference? Advantage of having a real version? Yes i am a computer noobie when it comes to crap like this.

well its alot easier 2 get updates for it with a legit key.
win2k is better though. . . uses less cpu bcus of all the useless visual stuff in XP.

rawb · #4 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by sh4un

well its alot easier 2 get updates for it with a legit key.
win2k is better though. . . uses less cpu bcus of all the useless visual stuff in XP.

if you wanna save cpu then use dos
or learn how to turn that stuff off

clevich · #5 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by sh4un

well its alot easier 2 get updates for it with a legit key.
win2k is better though. . . uses less cpu bcus of all the useless visual stuff in XP.

agreed... but to a point where I'd have to side that win2k doesn't have HT support :( sadly enough.

e_BoY · #6 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

actually one mroe question regarding this. ive have head poeple same something about you not being able to lend out the xp disc ot others cause u can only use it so many times or some crap like that. so if a fried or 2 need to reformat and they ask me if they could borrow my disc would that cause any harm to me?

rawb · #7 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

only if he used your key

narc · #8 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by sh4un

well its alot easier 2 get updates for it with a legit key.
win2k is better though. . . uses less cpu bcus of all the useless visual stuff in XP.

Y34H-R1GH-7Y0U-W4R3-ZM0N-K3Y

e_BoY · #9 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by rawb

only if he used your key

and if they use my cd key that would mean?

clevich · #10 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by e_BoY

and if they use my cd key that would mean?

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

ebbomega · #11 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

Tech Support is Pay-Per-Incident.

If you want to get around product activation, get your hands on WinXP corporate. It doesn't require it. There was a hack I read in a 2600 magazine to spoof up WinXP Pro to make it look like WinXP Corp. I have no access to such article at the moment.

However, if you wanna live guilt-free and not bother paying $150 for an OS that crashes weekly, there's always http://fedora.redhat.com/
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rawb · #12 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

winxp doesn't crash, the argument's been moot since win2k

come on dude

~god~ · #13 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by rawb

winxp doesn't crash

my ass!

rawb · #14 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

winxp doesn't crash if you have clue enough to take care of a system.

if you're shit with computers linux won't help you, except maybe make you less of a spyware/virus target.

bad worker blames his tools.

mapleleaf4ever · #15 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

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Originally Posted by ~god~

my ass!

My XP hasn't crashed since I installed it in 2002. That was because I was delving into areas where I probably shouldn't have. Anyways, like rawb said, if you have a clue about basic operation of XP or 2000 it should be just fine.

clevich · #16 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

deepfreeze your drives :p

Leviathan · #17 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

I'll admit XP doesn't crash under everyday operation but I can tell you that I've seen it crash to blue screens of death about 3 times in the past month while running DAQ systems and matlab on three different computers. Understandably with DAQ systems and such your delving a little bit deeper into the hardware but those are the crashes that cost money and are hard to troubleshoot when they happen in the middle of the night etc. I can also tell you these sytems only had National Instruments and mathworks software installed. XP is pretty decent though, I'd still prefer to work on OSX more than any other OS. These machines were set up by pretty capable people too, ie an embedded hardware engineer.

rawb · #18 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

well in any non-standard case there will be issues

i recently had to deal with 7 debian machines i put together as huge reverse web proxies (4 gigs ram, 3ghz p4s, nice intel server boards, no cheap parts) which would just altogether die after being up for 2 hours, doing nothing, under no load, everything shut down except for ssh for access. the setup worked, since it was running on almost identical servers already in production.

this was a huge issue as these machines had been shipped out to locations all over the world, we had some heavy hitting customers waiting for them, and i basicly looked like a complete fuckwad for ordering 15->20k worth of machines that didn't fucking work. espcially because every test reboot in these remote locations was running us $25->$300 a pop in remote hands charges

anyways turned out to be a kernel issue in addressing the memory.

Leviathan · #19 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

^ one word

OUCH!

e_BoY · #20 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

hehe so back to my question. if they use my cd key this means?

narc · #21 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 05

just activate the product, call the number and quote the sequence numbers, if they ask, you installed a new hard drive and had to reactivate

Gusto · #22 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 05

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Originally Posted by rawb

if you wanna save cpu then use dos
or learn how to turn that stuff off

install linux kekeke

ebbomega · #23 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 05

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Originally Posted by rawb

winxp doesn't crash, the argument's been moot since win2k

come on dude

Right.

I don't do tech support for Microsoft or anything.

Never crashes. Sure.

ebbomega · #24 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 05

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Originally Posted by gusto

install linux kekeke

Totally beat you to it. =p

Gusto · #25 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 05

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawb

well in any non-standard case there will be issues

i recently had to deal with 7 debian machines i put together as huge reverse web proxies (4 gigs ram, 3ghz p4s, nice intel server boards, no cheap parts) which would just altogether die after being up for 2 hours, doing nothing, under no load, everything shut down except for ssh for access. the setup worked, since it was running on almost identical servers already in production.

this was a huge issue as these machines had been shipped out to locations all over the world, we had some heavy hitting customers waiting for them, and i basicly looked like a complete fuckwad for ordering 15->20k worth of machines that didn't fucking work. espcially because every test reboot in these remote locations was running us $25->$300 a pop in remote hands charges

anyways turned out to be a kernel issue in addressing the memory.

ouch, couldn't you get servers with wake on lan to avoid the remote hands charges?