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Mar 17, 05
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$$ Vancouver Film School $$
Anyone goin' there.. or know close friends who go there?
Damn i really want to get into the Music Production program (its got the sweetest fucking curriculum)....... but the tuition is ~ 27 G's!!??? how..da..fuck can people afford that? (not a rant.. i'm actually curious to know) It has links to Student Loans website. but see, on the site it says that they want the whole tuition deposited 30 days prior to the START of the program. I cannot imagine that the loan beareu would just hand over the 27G's up front would it? how does the tuition system work exactly...anyone? 
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Mar 17, 05
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VFS...i have a friend that took the 3d modelling course....
he payed 20g's for the curriculum. Its a FULL year of tuition EVERYDAY from 7-7, except sundays, if you slack of they give you the boot, cuase they dont fuck around (due to people getting certified to be in the industry) Essentially, you pay up to half upfront, (half loan half savings), then the other half will be determined on how your effort was throughout the course, and other things. Say you took courses prior to VFS. E.g SFU sound engeneering courses for 700-1000$....that is your discount to VFS if you did acceptionally well. That means they will give you around 80% off to what you paid for other courses (say you paid 1000$ and did real well, then VFS wil contact them and also take 800$ off your final tuition bill). Also a perk with VFS, they litteraly find everyone who gradded 90%+ a career (or a really kick ass job so you can pay off VFS...VFS likes to train their students well so they can get their money back...its genious if you ask me) Last edited by BenGiovanni; Mar 17, 05 at 02:38 AM.
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edited my orignal post, check it out (explains why they cost soo much).
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5% Seat Confirmation Deposit - Once you receive your acceptance letter, you will be required to sign an Enrollment Form and Contract of Tuition and pay an initial 5% non-refundable deposit to secure your seat in the program. This deposit has been allocated to all Books and Materials Required to Complete the Program, Tuition Refund Disability Insurance, Student Training Completion Fund, Equipment Protection Fee . Each student is responsible for all additional costs necessary to complete the program of study (i.e. housing, transportation, food and incidentals). 25% Tuition Deposit Within 45 days of VFS receiving your signed contract and Seat Confirmation Deposit (or 30 days before course commencement, whichever comes first) before your program start date . If you fail to pay this amount on or before this date, you may forfeit your seat in your preferred start date. 70% Balance of Tuition The balance of your tuition is due 30 days before your program start date. If you fail to pay the full amount before this date, you will not be eligible to start your program. here
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I just dont understand how a person like me (poor) would be admitted to this place.
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Mar 17, 05
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From what read on the VFS site...they changed their procedure soo much from like 3 years ago. I for one am gonna take all the cheap courses that are offered at SFU and UBC, then go to VFS to see what kind of quote they can come up with. My friends portfolio and portfolio reel from MANY MANY various projects was also a good thing, cause if your portfolio is impressive they also take chances on students, my buddy for instance gradded with 97% (high 90's if im not excat) and he was found a job at Radical, later VFS found him a better gig in Iceland to model a moster for a movie WHICH is STILL in production, and now he is working with Global, Fox, and some US family channel on a new 3d series for children. I think im gonna work for a good year, get some cash from rents and gramps, and a loan to pay atleast 75% of it. I really wanna get into their studio....apparently its insane.
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Mar 17, 05
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and dude.. the FUCKING CLASSES: Sample ClassesIntroduction to Game Audio Advanced Game Audio Game Audio Portfolio Project Physics of audio Psychology of sound Synthesis fundamentals Basic electronic theory Digidesign Pro Tools 101 Reason synthesis History of film sound Reaktor Introduction to MIDI Digital Signal Processing Music theory & history Sound editing for film Recording in audio post-production Mixing in audio post-production Advanced sound synthesis Pro Tools 201 ISDN-networked audio facilities Pro Tools 210M Pre-production on final projects Post-production in music recording Sound editing Synchronization and mixing for picture Pro Tools HD3, Avid Option XL & Control 24s Core portfolio production 5.1 surround sound mixing & encoding, & mastering Pro Tools 201P curriculum Digidesign 48-channel ProControl Surround encoding Equipment maintenance/troubleshooting Final portfolios completed Portfolios presented to jury of instructors & students I wish i had rich parents :(
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Mar 17, 05
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hahaha thats the course outline man
its still insane
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Mar 17, 05
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not too sure about music production and such....
but with regards to film and photography, VFS is a waste of time and money. graduates from VFS end up started as bottom feeders in the industry...just like those who haven't gone to school. -s.
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Mar 17, 05
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^ totally agreed, my brother went there for the film production program and it was VERY expensive (all payed for by mum and dad!) and now he has an okay job, but it's not anywhere near the film industry.
the problem with a lot of these schools is that they don't really do a lot of proactive work with students to get their foot in the door to the industry they want to be in. A lot of trades at least have decent apprenticeship programs and carrer preparation as far as I can see.
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Mar 17, 05
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lol
sound production industry needs more people Such careers can be: Radio hosting/managing, making radio commericals, soundtracking for movies, soundtrakcing for tvs, news channels need it tons aswell theres soo much for sound engeneering... I personally think its worth the time...with Film its a waste cause everyone wants to be a producer...common now.
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Mar 17, 05
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and i don't think thats what people are arguing about. for 27 Gs (In student dollars) would it be worth it to go to such expensive school, and do only a ONE year study on music production, while you are not even guaranteed to have much of a headstart at the end? wow, long sentence.
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Mar 18, 05
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i dont have much beef with VFS, but tons with ai.. i just find it really pointless to go to such an expensive school for something like music/arts/design and not be garenteed a high paying job after the schooling. im in emily carr right now taking communication design and end of my scholling there i would have payed around $13,000 max, leave with a degree, have a wicked portfolio and have a high chance in having my foot in the door with something career based. private institutes are just out to get your money.. and anything music/art/design base takes personal creativity and ANYONE can learn how to use a program/machine.. just need to be sat down and taught. there are many other schools that offer knowledge in technical skils, and dont cost an arm and a leg. like bozga was sayin..if ure looking for something regarding radio personality/technician/commericials.. bcit has a really good broadcasting program which pretty much garentees you a foot in the door after the program. and i dont think it costs as much.
regarding my huge beef with ai.. pm me for mroe info. i can possibly write a whole book about it. schools just a joke and a half.
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Mar 18, 05
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^^even i want to take that program after i finish my degree. the program just sounds money.. tons of sub programs in the program to specialize in what kind of broadcasting you're into as well. my friend graduated this month and 2nd day he graduated a company flew him to edmonton for a job to start right away.
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Mar 18, 05
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Hmmm, This thread is quite entertaining.
If you have questions about any of the courses please call me @ 604 685 5808 Everyone has their oun oppinion. I have lots of friends in 1 year programs, but all of their idea's on "the right education" are very different. VFS does not garuntee anyone a job after graduating. If you are dedicated, help is available, we have a an awsome student services department that can answer all your questions. Thanx B.
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Mar 18, 05
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^^just curioous what ure taking at AI.
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Mar 18, 05
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VFS is more focused curriculem, so what you may learn somwhere else in 2-3 years, you will learn in 1 year at VFS. They work you to the bone... and if you are not dedicated then your out. There are consistant job opportunities that are offerd to the students through the school, the students just need to get their stuff out there. so if your focused to succeed, then chances are you will. Last edited by Baby Traits; Mar 18, 05 at 03:06 PM.
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Mar 18, 05
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Im taking a music production course down here in London right now @ Point Blank (http://www.pointblanklondon.com) It's a pretty heavy course for a low budget (around $12,000 CAD) We are taught both software (cubase , reason, logic, and other sequencers) as well as hardware, which can be useful for older style studios. Surprised that VFS charges that much though. But ya, after i finish my course down here, I'm also thinking of maybe coming back to Vancouver and enrolling into another music production course. Just to be experienced and have a clear knowledge of producing music and other.
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