Reverse Discrimination

[acidic_liquid]

Originally Posted by Haze

I feel the effects of racism almost on a daily basis at work (which is fukking annoying as hell), BUT it is almost amusing to me now in a way, as from being exposed I have been learning some mandrin here and there, it is hilarious to see the look on someones face when they are calling you "stupid white boy" and you reply to them in their own tounge that you understand them :)

- ë

OOOOH le snap!

[sinnerman]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

Yes, but "reverse" is the wrong word to use, period. Discrimination by definition doesn't indicate that it is only discrimination if it is towards a visible minority, a certain age group, sex, etc. Discrimination is reacting to two things differently.

Were you more looking to debate the apparent "equal opportunity" movement? (man 'equal opportunity' is a horrible term to use for what it actually is too.)

It's termed "reverse discrimination" because this discrimination is intended to reverse the pre-existing effects of general prior discrimination. "Reverse" has nothing to do with the object, subject or direction of the discrimination.

Reverse discrimination just means that they're discriminating openly & purposefully in an attempt to counter the effects of other discrimination whose affects have already been felt and cannot be undone.

Eg. Reasoning behind Affirmative Action: In US, on average more black ppl than white come from poor areas/families. With this comes a higher rate of crime, lower rate of university acceptance, etc. So, if you are born black, you are not given an equal opportunity as the average white person. Thus, a black person who looks OK when applying to university, on average, would look great if he had had equal opportunity his whole life. Affirm. action/reverse disrimination takes into account the adversity faced by the average member of the arbitrary group you fall into. Obviously, good intentions, but too many flaws.

No questions! American logic is flawless: I'm gonna discriminate against you now to undo in a moment what happened during years of our discriminating against you before, while coincidentally/indirectly discriminating on all other groups previously not discriminated against. Even though it looks like we've screwed it all to hell, we're hoping it'll all balance out. Yeah, it could happen.

[Bobby_T]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

It's termed "reverse discrimination" because this discrimination is intended to reverse the pre-existing effects of general prior discrimination. "Reverse" has nothing to do with the object, subject or direction of the discrimination.

Reverse discrimination just means that they're discriminating openly & purposefully in an attempt to counter the effects of other discrimination whose affects have already been felt and cannot be undone.

Eg. Reasoning behind Affirmative Action: In US, on average more black ppl than white come from poor areas/families. With this comes a higher rate of crime, lower rate of university acceptance, etc. So, if you are born black, you are not given an equal opportunity as the average white person. Thus, a black person who looks OK when applying to university, on average, would look great if he had had equal opportunity his whole life. Affirm. action/reverse disrimination takes into account the adversity faced by the average member of the arbitrary group you fall into. Obviously, good intentions, but too many flaws.

No questions! American logic is flawless: I'm gonna discriminate against you now to undo in a moment what happened during years of our discriminating against you before, while coincidentally/indirectly discriminating on all other groups previously not discriminated against. Even though it looks like we've screwed it all to hell, we're hoping it'll all balance out. Yeah, it could happen.

Good call. I agree with explanation of the term reverse. That being said, I didn't give much thought to the terminology. I just put it in a way that everyone would understand what I was refering to.

[Draven GD]

kool, thanks for posting that.

i find everyone is being disriminated equaly, its not a problem of whos being discriminated against, or whos doing it. its a world wide problem thats deeper than that.

[dj_soo]

oh boo fucking hoo

so once, you dealt with some minority who gave you a dirty look or treated you rudely

Come back to me when you have experienced constant racism (be it malicious or ignorant) you whole fucking lives.

This whole white man's vicimization fad is such bullshit. Everyone's whining and crying because instead of controlling 98% of the jobs, money, and power in our society - now they only control 85%.

[Draven GD]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

oh boo fucking hoo

so once, you dealt with some minority who gave you a dirty look or treated you rudely

Come back to me when you have experienced constant racism (be it malicious or ignorant) you whole fucking lives.

This whole white man's vicimization fad is such bullshit. Everyone's whining and crying because instead of controlling 98% of the jobs, money, and power in our society - now they only control 85%.

i admit the "white" population does not ever see the same kind of racism. and that that group controls most of the influential rolls. its the fact that everyone knows this today, and this generation we live in has idolized the idea of the rightious underdog... i do...

[Sue Bitch]

cause of this I was able to get the job I once had the airport. When i can honestly say a guy would have done a much better job since alot of the time i was getting the guys to do my work *batts my eyes*

[Bobby_T]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

oh boo fucking hoo

so once, you dealt with some minority who gave you a dirty look or treated you rudely

Come back to me when you have experienced constant racism (be it malicious or ignorant) you whole fucking lives.

This whole white man's vicimization fad is such bullshit. Everyone's whining and crying because instead of controlling 98% of the jobs, money, and power in our society - now they only control 85%.

I don't think anyone was complaining about being a victim here, especially me. This isn't about stopping discrimination or complaining about it, its about how the dynamics of it has changed by the emerging "global community". In Canada, we are exposed to a plethora of backgrounds and how they interact together is extremely complex. Like anything complicated, if it is not communicated and considered we will never understand where it comes from and why.

[wum]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

now they only control 85%.

oh chit!

[esoter1c]

Wow, I Am So Not Sayin Anythin About "whites" Runnin' The Show.

I'm Pretty Sure We Know Who's Really Runnin' Hollywood Here And

American Foreign Policy While We're At It.

[Mr.Wrong]

what about the white MCs
hows copywrite gon sell a mill with all the hate

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

Seems to me there is a massive Religious Race War being called a war on terror that has been going on for centuries, Jews vs Arabs vs Christians, a triangle of h8, ignorance and pure DOGMA.

It doesn't matter how PC you are if you watch CNN you can see it all day long
A lot of the media is clearly run from a Judeo-Christian (American) point of view. If we were to really try and look at this issue it would span Centuries.

All I can offer is my opinion and that is Arabs and Islam are on the short end of the stick right now, 600,000 hate crimes have been commited against Arabs in America since 911, but the racial profiling continues unabated.

Maybe after WWIII , Armagaeddon, whatever it is thats happening we'll all wake up to the DOGMA the ILLUMINATTI have been controlling us with.

you forgot to add the part about teh lizard peeople!

anyways,ive faced racism/discrimination cuz im white,but i just shrug it off. No big fucking deal.

[potface]

actually i dont see it as reverse this or that. it is what it is regardless of which way the color scheme goes

[Mr.Wrong]

didnt you guys hear.. white is the new black

[acidic_liquid]

Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong

didnt you guys hear.. white is the new black

I thought pink was the new black.

Dammit, now I can't wear those shirts anymore.

[DefJef]

Originally Posted by Nev

I've gotten horrible service in sushi restaurants or chinese cuisine restaurants bc I'm white. I know that's what it is, bc if I come in with another white friend I get shit service, but if I come in with an asian friend it's all gravy. Pfft.

All in all, racism and discrimination (reverse or "conventional") really seems old fashioned.

I think its funny when you're eating at an asain resteraunt and they automatically bring you a fork :D:D I enjoy chopsticks.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

Wow, I Am So Not Sayin Anythin About "whites" Runnin' The Show.

I'm Pretty Sure We Know Who's Really Runnin' Hollywood Here And

American Foreign Policy While We're At It.

I smell something fishy, and the nose happens to have a hook in it aswell, coincidence, I think not!

[sinnerman]

Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong

didnt you guys hear.. white is the new black

That's what I keep saying! Black went out with the 90s, with Moesha and the Hughleys and whatnot.

[mapleleaf4ever]

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by Akeel

in other words

affirmative action

the whole "reverse racism/discrimination" discussion is convoluted.

its still racism/discrimination, except this time whitey is gettin the short end of the stick.

Minoritys' always keepin cracker down.