haven't done this in a while

[wum]

Burma's Terror Blasts

May 15, 2005

Super-Power Behind Burma Blasts - Based In Washington

“Burma's government says rebels trained abroad by a "superpower" were behind last week's bombings at three shopping centers in the capital, Rangoon.”

“The explosives used were not available in the country, and the plot was funded by a "world famous organization", the military government said.”

"It is crystal clear that the terrorists... and the time bombs originated from training conducted with foreign experts at a place in a neighboring country by a world famous organization of a certain superpower nation," Information Minister Kyaw Hsan told reporters.”

“He also accused the unnamed organization - based in Washington - of having given $100,000 (£54,000) to a dissident group led by a cousin of pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4549109.stm

"A certain superpower nation."

Oh, I'm stumped!!!!

The formula goes like this:

artificially fomented terror attacks ==> global instability ==> pretext for government control ==> mocash for the Military Industrial Complex

[ja_raul]

Jihad Time

[wum]

Originally Posted by ja_raul

Jihad Time

[esoter1c]

Have You Found The Path Of The Phoenix Yet ?

Wasting Your Time With Burma I'm Guessing No.

The Comte St. Germain Is Waiting.

[thebobman]

sounds like somebody pissed in their

[wum]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

Have You Found The Path Of The Phoenix Yet ?

Wasting Your Time With Burma I'm Guessing No.

The Comte St. Germain Is Waiting.

[esoter1c]

I Guess You're Doomed To Be Goyim Wum.

[wum]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

I Guess You're Doomed To Be Goyim Wum.

i went to that site.

it told me i had to buy a book.

sum up that whole esoteric thing for me in a paragraph or so.

[automatic]

Originally Posted by wum

Burma's Terror Blasts

May 15, 2005

Super-Power Behind Burma Blasts - Based In Washington
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4549109.stm

"A certain superpower nation."

Oh, I'm stumped!!!!

The formula goes like this:

artificially fomented terror attacks ==> global instability ==> pretext for government control ==> mocash for the Military Industrial Complex

this would almost be believable if it wasn't for the fact that you're basing your theory on a press release from the burmese government, a military dictatorship not exactly well known for their devotion to truth. if you know anything about the political situation in burma you'd know that there are several rebel groups fighting the government right now, mostly representing indeginous populations in the north of the country, and financing their operations with money they get from their control of opium growing regions. they wouldn't need any "foreign superpower" to pull off something like this. besides that, they've reached out to the americans a few times with a "we'll stop growing dope if you help us "bring democracy" to burma appeal and been rebuffed, so it seems unlikely that the US had much of a role in this one, as they've largely stayed out of burma's internal politics until now.

The money given to Aung Suun Kyi's cousin's democracy group down't indicate anything really, because for one thing Aung Suun Kyi's group is avowedly non-violent, seeking to bring about reform through fairly tame acts of civil disobedience, and for another 200,000 is not really much money in the sphere of international politics, certainly not the kind of money that you'd think about if you were trying to finance a "terror-campaign"

wum, as long as you keep posting things you read on the internet and putting your own spin on them while being pretty damn ignorant of the facts behind them i'll keep showing you up, bring it on!

[wum]

Originally Posted by automatic

this would almost be believable if it wasn't for the fact that you're basing your theory on a press release from the burmese government, a military dictatorship not exactly well known for their devotion to truth.

Actually the theory is based on past history of the US government sponsoring terrorism abroad (i.e. Iran-Contra affair or Bin Laden against the Soviets).

Besides, why would the Burmese government try to catch heat by claiming the US was behind this if it wasn't the case? Oh that's right, for the same reason arab hijackers attack the WTC so they can bolster public opinion against them and bring the wrath of the NWO. Oh wait, I mean they "hate freedom."

Originally Posted by automatic

if you know anything about the political situation in burma you'd know that there are several rebel groups fighting the government right now, mostly representing indeginous populations in the north of the country, and financing their operations with money they get from their control of opium growing regions. they wouldn't need any "foreign superpower" to pull off something like this. besides that, they've reached out to the americans a few times with a "we'll stop growing dope if you help us "bring democracy" to burma appeal and been rebuffed, so it seems unlikely that the US had much of a role in this one, as they've largely stayed out of burma's internal politics until now.

This has yet to be seen, but we can't rule it out completely.

Originally Posted by automatic

The money given to Aung Suun Kyi's cousin's democracy group down't indicate anything really, because for one thing Aung Suun Kyi's group is avowedly non-violent, seeking to bring about reform through fairly tame acts of civil disobedience, and for another 200,000 is not really much money in the sphere of international politics, certainly not the kind of money that you'd think about if you were trying to finance a "terror-campaign"

that's news to me

Originally Posted by automatic

wum, as long as you keep posting things you read on the internet and putting your own spin on them while being pretty damn ignorant of the facts behind them i'll keep showing you up, bring it on!

"a certain superpower"

does that really require a lot spin?

[automatic]

The burmese government would try to "catch heat" by claiming a certain superpower is behind the attacks becasue by claiming outside interference they can dismiss the fact that there is a resistance in their own society to their autocratic rule. the military junta in burma is regularitly cited as one of the worst governements in the world in terms of human rights abuses, but officially they still like to trot out the "everyone's happy, our population loves us" line, and anyone who oppses them is working for a foreign power.....

there's a huge homegrown outlawed democracy movement in burma, aun suun kyi, the leader of this has been under house arrest for years, but either won or was up for the nobel peace prize. the government consistently harps on about how they're puppets of outside influences, but anyone who looks into it realizes that they're the leading edge of a groundswell of private BURMESE public support for democratic change, that would garner more public support if the government didn't throw people in prison for even whispering "democracy".

i like how you say "it's yet to be seen if hte US had a role so we can't rule this out" how many fucking times do i have to point out the bit about how it's impossible to prove a negative? it's "yet to be seen" that the fucking martians did not kidnap elvis, so i guess we can't rule that out either.

it's news to you that 200,000 dollars isn't a lot of money when you're talking about international terrorism finance? or it's news to you about burma's homegrown democracy movement?

finally, by spin i mean how you take news stories about palces and political situations you know dick all about and try and shoehorn them in to suppporting your conspiracy theories. that's the spin. if you knew anything about burma you'd come to the conclusion that the whole news story (government press release) is just the burmese dictatorship trying to disgusie the fact that they've got serious problems and are close to a civil war. blaming a "certain superpwer" is far more likely simply propaganda, deflecting the fact that their own populace is pissed off.

[wum]

Originally Posted by automatic

The burmese government would try to "catch heat" by claiming a certain superpower is behind the attacks becasue by claiming outside interference they can dismiss the fact that there is a resistance in their own society to their autocratic rule. the military junta in burma is regularitly cited as one of the worst governements in the world in terms of human rights abuses, but officially they still like to trot out the "everyone's happy, our population loves us" line, and anyone who oppses them is working for a foreign power.....

wouldn't it be much easier to trot out "Al Qaeda is after us!"

As opposed to the leaders of the free world?

Originally Posted by automatic

there's a huge homegrown outlawed democracy movement in burma, aun suun kyi, the leader of this has been under house arrest for years, but either won or was up for the nobel peace prize. the government consistently harps on about how they're puppets of outside influences, but anyone who looks into it realizes that they're the leading edge of a groundswell of private BURMESE public support for democratic change, that would garner more public support if the government didn't throw people in prison for even whispering "democracy".

coo

Originally Posted by automatic

i like how you say "it's yet to be seen if hte US had a role so we can't rule this out" how many fucking times do i have to point out the bit about how it's impossible to prove a negative? it's "yet to be seen" that the fucking martians did not kidnap elvis, so i guess we can't rule that out either.

hey don't get snappy

As well, what you're doing is building a straw man argument. I've never talked about aliens or elvis. On the other hand, there's plenty of precedence for the US sanctioning so-called "terrorism" around the world. The real kicker for me was that the Burmese government came out and pointed their finger at them as their number one suspect.

Originally Posted by automatic

it's news to you that 200,000 dollars isn't a lot of money when you're talking about international terrorism finance? or it's news to you about burma's homegrown democracy movement?

I heard abit about that when MTV was giving out their humanitarian award, or something like that... anywho it wasn't just money. The explosives, according to the statement, were not available in the country.

Originally Posted by automatic

finally, by spin i mean how you take news stories about palces and political situations you know dick all about and try and shoehorn them in to suppporting your conspiracy theories. that's the spin. if you knew anything about burma you'd come to the conclusion that the whole news story (government press release) is just the burmese dictatorship trying to disgusie the fact that they've got serious problems and are close to a civil war. blaming a "certain superpwer" is far more likely simply propaganda, deflecting the fact that their own populace is pissed off.

We have to look at things in the context of a New World Order, which is fascist in nature. "Terrorism" has many layers to it. =)

[thebobman]

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[ja_raul]

^^ jihand??

[thebobman]

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