Are you an artist? i need advice.

[Clayton.]

Recently a friend asked me for some canvas's i've done so he can display them at a display he had at an art show downtown............but i've never painted a canvas or even seriously thought of it. But the thought of being part of an art show interested me so i've decided i'm gonna start painting canvas in addition to the illegal art work i love so much.

So i'm looking for advice on where the best place to get supplies at a good price would be and any other tips you may have to offer.

Thanks.

[Silverwinged]

Mugsy will know:)

[Clayton.]

Oh no i was just thinking i may become one of those nancey boy art fags sitting in a studio painting their perdy pictures and sipping a glass of wine.


I ain't keeping it real.

[Silverwinged]

HAHAHAHHA.
oh clay :027:

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by Ever666

Oh no i was just thinking i may become one of those nancey boy art fags sitting in a studio painting their perdy pictures and sipping a glass of wine.


I ain't keeping it real.

Now you need a Beret and a Goatee. :p

[Bitchin]

Originally Posted by Ever666

Oh no i was just thinking i may become one of those nancey boy art fags sitting in a studio painting their perdy pictures and sipping a glass of wine.


I ain't keeping it real.

HAHA, I can sooooooooooo see it.

[clevich]

Check out Loomis Art by Science World, across from the Burger King. Prices are kinda steep but I think you get a 10% or 15% discount if you have a student I.D. card.

[A-BOMB]

i got a shit load of canvas's and sum decos

holla

[Lady Dame]

The Hobby Shop in New West just up the street from the Police Station on 6th.

[mugsy]

Originally Posted by clevich

Check out Loomis Art by Science World, across from the Burger King. Prices are kinda steep but I think you get a 10% or 15% discount if you have a student I.D. card.

this kids got it right.
loomis is waaaaaay cheaper then opus and has way better gear. you can get these bad ass canvases that have four inch thick frames - the fucking make my toes curl.
anyways if your hitting up a show be sure to buy canvas that has a frame no thinner then 2 inches - thats gallery size.

if your going to use paint other then spray paint:
if your going for acrylic paints and you want to be cheap about it at first, i'd try peobe. some pigments\colors tend to be a bit shiney, but you get what you pay for. a middle step would be liquitex basics or just plaing liquitex. a tad pricey, but does the trick. when you really want to step it up, go for kroma or stevenson. pricey, but shit hot. its like butter. always buy lots of white, its your base for almost anything.
if your going with oil, go with amsterdam. again they're cheap, but i have yet to find the difference in them from my more expensive ones - minus the tube my brother gave me. if you really are going with oil, pm me, and i can tell you the proper brushes and solvants\oils to get.

if your gonna use brushes - for acrylic, just get the cheap ones. go to michaels or any other craft store and pick up their 99 cent ones. you might want to pick up some fancy softer ones - i use water color brushes for alot of my detail work for my paintings. really its what you like.
for oil, youre going to have to drop the money and get some nice natural brushes. it will pay off in the long run.

anyways, any more information, hit me up with a pm. i can also give you directions on how to build your own canvases that are beefy, sturdy and show quality if you have to tools at hand. it will end up being cheaper. i can also give you hints on how to save money on paint - how to make black and greys and all that shit so you only need to buy like 6 colors.
hope it helped.

[Clayton.]

Thanks that's exactly the type of info i was looking for^^

Originally Posted by A-BomB

i got a shit load of canvas's and sum decos

holla

I will, i need some decos i got big plans yo.

[Clayton.]

Got my canvas's and paint's and stuff............it's on now.





I'm about to get creative.........no painting lame landscapes and that crap for me.

[Atlantis77]

Originally Posted by Ever666

Got my canvas's and paint's and stuff............it's on now.





I'm about to get creative.........no painting lame landscapes and that crap for me.

make sure to put up a few. i would luv to see em.

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by Ever666

Oh no i was just thinking i may become one of those nancey boy art fags sitting in a studio painting their perdy pictures and sipping a glass of wine.


I ain't keeping it real.

fuck that, everyday I see these sicksick ass canwork along this indepth concrete wall (just right close to the graph removal shop, ironic) when im on the westcoast. and everyday I wish I could fucken cut one (or all of em out) and put em on my wall. that shit is my generations art, why must it be tucked away on buildings, coves, alleys, to be enjoyed for seconds by passers by. I wanna be able to enjoy it daily and share it with my friends! you should want the same..?

[mugsy]

Originally Posted by sNyx™

fuck that, everyday I see these sicksick ass canwork along this indepth concrete wall (just right close to the graph removal shop, ironic) when im on the westcoast. and everyday I wish I could fucken cut one (or all of em out) and put em on my wall. that shit is my generations art, why must it be tucked away on buildings, coves, alleys, to be enjoyed for seconds by passers by. I wanna be able to enjoy it daily and share it with my friends! you should want the same..?

taking it off the walls and putting it up in the galleries would kinda deminish the meaning of it wouldnt it? one of the most beautiful things about graffiti is that its graffiti - its art at one of its purest states in the public to be viewed by all, sometimes epic in size and most importantly its there not matter who may find it offensive or illegal. plus its not done for money and too much art is being pumped out for the sake of making an extra buck in a gallery. i know too many artist who shove aside their own style to produce marketable art that they can hang in galleries so they can make some extra money.
i say leave graff on the streets.

and heeeeeeeey ever, do post your finished pieces.

[sNyx]

thats a bleak perception on such an open art. why must such an amazing form and expression be restricted to the unappreciated general public.. mostly to spit on! where as a small circle do enjoy it, even for a moment, a passby.

I believe I understand enough [to back my statements] of the whole concept behind this shadowy art. where it's there when the day before it wasn't, the mystery left behind with only an elusive name.

but there is a whole demographic who wants to enjoy elsewhere then on the skytrain or walking along the street.

[onefour]

i disagree with the guy saying leave graph in the streets, if somethings good enough that people are willing to pay money to see it then by all means do it.

[Atlantis77]

Originally Posted by mugsy

taking it off the walls and putting it up in the galleries would kinda deminish the meaning of it wouldnt it? one of the most beautiful things about graffiti is that its graffiti - its art at one of its purest states in the public to be viewed by all, sometimes epic in size and most importantly its there not matter who may find it offensive or illegal. plus its not done for money and too much art is being pumped out for the sake of making an extra buck in a gallery. i know too many artist who shove aside their own style to produce marketable art that they can hang in galleries so they can make some extra money.
i say leave graff on the streets.

and heeeeeeeey ever, do post your finished pieces.

i agree with u on this. And to add a lil more . . . there is a certain beauty when i see a piece out in the public. Its almost as if it gives the general concrete jungle, life. It brings color to the grey scale shades of the surroudings, and even though i know vancouver has color and there are cities far worst, i still stick to my point. The idea of walkin down a street and seein a piece pop up is so much more appealing to me then walkin into a gallery and seein the exact same piece. Passin by a piece and takin the time to stop and look at it, takes you out of ur generic day for even a split a second. And telling ur friends about it, and them tryin to find it, if its worthy, is like a treasure hunt on its own. Now i know this may sound a lil too much, but some of those down-the-alley art work is just AMAZING. Puttin that style of art in galleries shouldnt be for the same reason as any other art gallery but more so to educate those who arent a fan of such style. It should be served, more so, to introduce it to those who think of it as vandalisme or illegal. Make them understand why this is an art and how it is an art. I think ive said enough. I draw myself, and any form of art is beautiful to me. Now wether i like it or not is a different story lol :D

[mugsy]

Originally Posted by sNyx™

thats a bleak perception on such an open art. why must such an amazing form and expression be restricted to the unappreciated general public.. mostly to spit on! where as a small circle do enjoy it, even for a moment, a passby.

I believe I understand enough [to back my statements] of the whole concept behind this shadowy art. where it's there when the day before it wasn't, the mystery left behind with only an elusive name.

but there is a whole demographic who wants to enjoy elsewhere then on the skytrain or walking along the street.

no its really not that bleak. if graffiti wanted to be in the galleries, it would be. and in fact some is in new york. pick yourself up a modern painting book, graff is all up in it. and the dark has had shows here - granted its stenciling but still a form of graffiti.
so technically if you are really interested in it, you can find it in galleries.

back to my point though, graffiti should be kept on the streets because thats where it truely belongs. putting it up in a gallery no longer makes it graffiti - its then considered fine art. a part of what makes graffiti so fucking amazing is that these artists have to be so fucking skilled and sneaky and be able to pull off a 12 foot by 6 foot (or whatever sized piece) in a matter of moments or rather series of moments while avoiding being seen and caught. they make these beautiful pieces in rediculous time constraints, have to make decisions in split seconds and have hardly any room for mistakes.
why take all that out of graff by handing the artist a canvas or some board and say "hey you got 3 months to produce a show for me, i wanna see some street work." its taking the soul outta the work. it demeans it. respect your graffiti artist, enjoy their pieces and how they create them. a part of enjoying art is enjoying how its made. im a painter, and i fucking love to paint. part of the soul of my work comes from me enjoying the process.

and saying that if somethings good enough that people are willing to pay money to see it then by all means do it, demeans all art and yourself. art is not a fucking corporation, you should not have to pay to see it, and artists should not have money as a drive to create art. most starving artists could be rich as fuck if they sold out - but they dont. they dont make "marketable" or "hot" art because they love what they do and have enough drive to persue it no matter if it ends up in a gallery or not. the mere fact that they create it is enough for them to survive.

but if you want to pay to see some graff or buy some, head to chapters, pick up a modern painting book. that or go to new york. or why not document pieces you really enjoy in vancouver though, and hang some photo's on your wall. make your own "graff in vancouver book", publish it, sell it, and make your own money then go and buy a wall for artists to work on and charge people to see it.

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by onefour

i disagree with the guy saying leave graph in the streets, if somethings good enough that people are willing to pay money to see it then by all means do it.

people being willing to pay money to see something doesn't mean it's good

example: bad boys II.

[PaIniNyErAnUs]

lucky guy...seize the chance!!! good luck!