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Old Jul 20, 05
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Pharmaceutical Brainwash.

All psychology was invented by a cokehead semite with an oedipus complex.

Fuck fake happiness.

Pills kill.

Happiness in slavery.
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^except psychologists can't even prescribe pills ;)
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Psychobabble.

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^except psychologists can't even prescribe pills ;)
Happiness isn't in a pill from Pfizer.

Life is suffering.

Get used to it.

Psychologists refer you to more "Specialists" & "Doctors".
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Old Jul 21, 05
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i never said happiness was in a pill.

life isn't all suffering.

get used to it.
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thats exactly the same as saying fuck chemotherapy when you have cancer and relying on praying instead because chemotherapy has pretty extreme adverse side effects.

my buddy took celexa for depression and it made him worse but then he tried a different pill and hes a changed man. the fact of the matter is that there are so many different medications out there, some work for some people and some dont alot of times its trail and error. what you preach is total ignorance.
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Honestly, I didn't read most of that...and im not about to get testy with you over an issue that i've looked at inside out. All that needs to be said is that every person is different, just as is every case. Just because you had a "severe case" and didnt need pills, doesn't mean that another perosn with the same struggle would also not. Meds dont have to be forever and sometimes they are needed temporarily to help someone get back on track. AGAIN people are different, there is no right or wrong answer. Clearly, there are mixed opinions. I just don't think it's fair to make general statments like 'head pills only fuck you up more' etc. Your experience is not everyone's reality, and people who think they 'know' particular things for certain are silly, it is wiser to admit you know nothing for certain and then seek the possible perceptions and viewpoints.Keep an open mind. Mental illness is not black and white issue. s'all i'm trying to say.

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no shit sherlock...

i went to school at the royal victoria hospital in montreal.. it was right on the same level as the psychiatric ward.... the students that went there.. had mental disabilities... there was about 15 students...
yes, u need head pills if its extreme.. like bi-polar, or schitz or w/e...
but stuff like social phobia... is something you need to overcome.. BY URSELF... and thats what i was talking about...

I OVER CAME IT BYMYSELF.. and i am still doing so...
as long as you have some support of ur family and friends.. and you have someone you TRUST to talk to.. then it will help u over come ur obstacles...
talking to someone u trust is better then talking to a professional.. especially if u are social phobic... with social phobia u tend to not wanna talk about things in front of stranger's.. or w/e....

so bassline!... just lend a helping hand to your friend.. and when he is ready to talk.. let him.. don't pressure him.. or else it will just cause more damage...
trust me.


for all of u that think taking pills will help the social phobia... trust me when i tell u... it makes u even more weird...
they wanted to put me on meds.. for being A.D.D and being depressed and being social phobic.. and being dyslexic... i would be a walking advertisement for drugs..

it helps SOME people.. but it's better to just overcome it urself.. with the help of friends and relatives... or even just having one person to talk to...
the weird thing is.. as soon as i popped my first cap of e... and when i talked to my friends about things.. it made me feel better.. of course i don't suggest e.... but in the past mdma has helped out alot of people to over come different forms of anxiety.

i took my social anxiety out on dancing.. it has always been my way out, and i think people should find the things they love to do.. and excersize those things... and do it with someone u love.. cuz it will make a huge difference.


there are other options then drugs.. drugs are the easy way out.. and will jus lead to bigger complications in the future...


it's not ignorance when u see ur mom having to try diff meds to find the right one for her.. and then having to see her goto NA...due to the fact of people prescribing her diff meds to try.. now she takes about 30pills a night.. and she can't live without them.... in fact she cant sleep without them... she doesn't eat cuz the pills cause her to loose appetite..
THATS NOT IGNORANCE.. THATS FINDING A BETTER OPTION.. so excuse me.
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I heard something on talk radio where they say chemo is exactly the wrong thing to do when treating cancer, since we grow cancer cells all the time, but our immune system can usually handily take care of it. radiation destroys our body's natural ability to heal itself

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I never said you said........

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i never said happiness was in a pill.

life isn't all suffering.

get used to it.
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A friend of mine says he's suffering from this, I haven't seen him in a while, he doesn't really come out much anymore. He says whenever he is in social situations, or in a spot where he feels trapped (sitting in the middle aisle of an airplane, in a meeting, etc) he gets very anxious and says he 'chokes' .. sometimes literally.. He says sometimes if happens at random, but he looks really shaken up and says when he has these 'attacks', it's for really stupid, everyday reasons.. he also says he's got a complete phobia of death now too, which really scares me.

Has any one ever had this or know someone who has? I'd like to help him out and supposedly it's treatable.. do you guys have any suggestions on what I can tell him to do? I'd like to see him more, but he says it's affecting his everyday life, which really sucks because he's a good friend..

Any suggestions?
There is an excellent outpatient program at Richmond General Hospital held by the Vancouver Coastal Health Team... Called the "Core Program"

http://www.rhss.bc.ca/bins/content_p...id=106-136-228

It's pretty much like group therapy where you work on and talk about different problems contributing to your disorder... 5 days a week, 4 hours a day for 3 months. I would HIGHLY recommend this program for your friend! By any chance does your friend take any street drugs? Drugs can make these social anxiety disorders much much worse... Your friend is most likely suffering from deep depression which causes stress, anxiety, panic attacks, social isolation.. and much more..and he may not even know that he is suffering from depression.... if he has not been educated about it...

When it comes to group therapy.. a lot of people are hesitant espeically if they have social disorders because you must talk and share your story with other people.. But they must remember those other people in the group are there for the same reasons! It's hard to ask for help but when you actually start to receive it, the only thing you must remember is... to commit yourself 100 %, because you're trying to change for the better, and if you need that change more than anything.... you're heart has to be there too.

Before using any type of anti depressants or anti anxiety pill, I would highly recommend to go visit a counsellor on a regular basis or attend some group therapy because they are there to listen and give you support rather than going to see a psychiatrist who usually just tries to presrcrib you pills and expects you to get on with it. Try to fix the problem on your own first without the use of any drugs. Its hard work and the problem wont go away with a snap of the fingers.. You must work at it just like anything else in life. I know drugs may work for some people and some people definitely need them but atleast try to work through it the natural way before you take the other route.

I Hope everything works out for your friend, just remind him that there is always hope and that he isn't alone.

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