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Old Jul 25, 05
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Ppl w/back pain pls help!

I've always seemed to suffer from back pain (even as a child :()but I was always able to find the trigger/source and be able to get over it with proper training/ergonomics (etc) however lately it's just been all out of wack.

I actually pulled a muscle in my lower back, doing of all things, yoga(?!?) earlier this year and am now suffering from pain in my upper back/neck area. I did have this earlier in the year and it was actually caused by a viral infection and I highly doubt that's the case this time.

Anyways, I have a fear of chiropractors and also don't really like how they treat the visible problems and generally don't really offer much prevention or look into underlying problems.

Just curious what other sufferers out there do, physio, back/core strengthening etc. What works for you? If you are in the Vancouver area and have any particular doctors you could recommend that would be greatly appreciated as well.

Thanks in advance!
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Old Jul 25, 05
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this post doesn't have anything to do with backpain, but there was a chick on "pimp my ride" earlier today that reminded me of you.
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Old Jul 25, 05
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i've always had a bad back. it seems to be genetic. then in march i was rear ended, and that just worsened the situation.

now on top of what my regular back pain was, i deal with pain in my lower spine, and neck/shoulder problems on one side.

i just try to be careful and stay in shape. i also have muscle relaxants to help me.

one thing i must add though, if you don't have a good bed.. it's worth the investment. i just got a new bed and it's made a big difference. since it supports my back and makes things less painful, i've been getting much better sleeps and that's been helping a lot.
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this post doesn't have anything to do with backpain, but there was a chick on "pimp my ride" earlier today that reminded me of you.
I'm afraid to ask...

Charly - thanks for the bed tip, I hadn't thought of that yet and I'm probably more than ready for a new one!
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I'm afraid to ask...

Charly - thanks for the bed tip, I hadn't thought of that yet and I'm probably more than ready for a new one!
lol, at the end of the show xibit (ok, that's gotta be spelt wrong) said that she'd been "pimped" AND SHE GOT ALL EXCITED!
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Old Jul 26, 05
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my new bed was the best $1000 i ever spent.

my back/neck/shoulder are much improved. even after such a short time, i felt a great improvement. normally by the end of my work day i'd be so stiff and uncomfortable, but even now that's not as bad as it was.

surprised me how much it made a difference.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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wow i must have use to have the worst back pains from pulling my back while working at the airport
went to physio which i felt never really helped to cure the pain just taught me how to really lift properly
but i have been seeing a chiro just this past month and my pain has drastically reduced i use to be taking pain killers everyday but havent touched them in god knows how long
also i found going to the gym helped to but now with work and school chiro is only 5 min
I also have gotten a new bed within this time and own a hot tub
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Old Jul 27, 05
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I agree with people that say you should just lift properly - it helps a lot with your back. If you know how to lift properly, then you won't hurt your back and also the long term effects of back problem won't really affect you all that much.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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i carry almost all my stress in my neck and shoulders. some days the muscles are rock hard and nothing totally gets rid of the pain. lifting my arms up to my shoulders is like asking me to stab myself. i also have some mild lower back issues but thats mostly from my hips being bad.

if its muscular i would go and get massages. chiropractors - in my experience - tend to put your body into a text book format rather then your natural way. if this is a chronic problem and you have medical coverage see if you can get your doctor to set you up with some massage thearapy. if you dont have coverage, id say put out the money. i have a bad shoulder, and i got a massage from a practicing massage thearapist for free (he was my coach) and i was in almost blinding pain after it, but about 30 minutes after the massage my should was pain free. it lasted about 2 days, but since i was 12, those were the only two days that i didnt have pain.

if you do yoga, then you already know about stretching. sometimes wearing proper foot wear all day can also help. if theres one thing ive learned is that your back is affected by every other part of your body. good suport for the feet\legs\hips can make for a happier back.

but if this is chronic, and you dont really see an end, ask for a referal to see a surgeon or a muscle\bone specailist. sometimes the regular gp just doesnt know everything.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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I've had chronic lower back pain since a snowboarding accident like 6 years ago caused 3 subluxations in my spine. I started going to a chiropractor and within 2 months I was feeling GREAT. Don't be so quick to rule them out, I'd say go give one a chance for a couple weeks, and if you still don't feel it's helping then stop.

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Old Jul 27, 05
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Everyone's situation is different, but I get lower back pain unless I do some exercises to strengthen the muscles & stuff there. I think the pain might be caused by inflamed tendons or ligaments - these are the tissues that connect muscles to bones. The pain can come on very fast like in a second, usually early in the morning, so sharp that it seems like it might be a slipped disc or pinched nerve problem, but it probably isn't, because it gradually goes away in a few days, probably related to the injured tissues slowly becoming less inflamed and repairing itself.

A good exercise is ab crunches & similar to strengthen stomach area, but the most important (for me) is simple "hyperextensions" to strengthen the back and keep the tissues healthy. They might have done these exercises in high school P.E. class, here's a sample:
http://www.myfit.ca/exercisedatabase...e=pilates&ID=9

A reasonably good mattress would help too (if it's lumpy or insufficient padding that's going to make things worse), also avoid drafts or getting chilled as that can cause the back muscles to tense up. Don't let the bedroom get too cold in winter.
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what is your posture like, im tall so sometimes when i sit i just kinda lean forward and it cramps up my neck and upper back becuase thats hte only part supporting my head, and heads wiegh upwards of 50lbs, so to the point, do you stand very erect and have a very good posture, or do you slouch at all, even when your just sitting down?
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My bed was also what saved my back. That and alot of exercise.
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Yeah posture is important, mine needs improving. Even when you're at a desk looking at a computer people let the head fall forward too much. Having work equipment at the right height helps, don't wanna be bending over all the time to use tools. Standing all day is hard too.

I had an old steno chair with thin back padding and it wrecked my back a few times.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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I find that stretching in the shower helps alot. I personally would recommend trying out a chiropractor, but like all professions there are good and bad ones. A good one should ask you about past injuries, give you exercises and stretches to do for the injured area, and generally make small adjustments. I know few people who have been helped out alot by a good ones, as well as some who have been injured by ones that try to do the quick fix.
Other then that, as stated above a good bed and some crunches never hurt
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Old Jul 27, 05
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when i have back problems i just spend a few nights sleeping on the floor with no pillows, it helps re-align everything.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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i wrecked my back a couple years ago. it hasn't been the same since.

i find that working out frequently, i go 4 or 5 times a week, helps. i do core stability stretches that are probably the most effective thing you can do. trying to keep the muscles around the damaged area strong is all you can do to keep the strain off. and ya i sleep on the floor almost every night only when im drunk or hung over do i opt for the bed. a solid matress would be a good thing if your not into the floor.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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too much E also cause back problems ;)
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Old Jul 27, 05
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should have you feeling good as new
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Old Jul 28, 05
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Seems like I'm on the right track... I was working at a desk for a long period which I know contributed, but being unemployed and all right now I hoped it would subside. I've been doing yoga/going the gym and generally being waaaaay more active this summer, lots more time!

I'm still iffy about the whole chiropractor thing, it seem so unnatural to correct it so abrubtly.

I'm going shopping for a new bed next week... hopefully this will help.

Thanks all :)
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Old Jul 28, 05
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yeahh fuckin back pain sucks...!!!

i have a fucked up back cuz of football...i was a running back so i got hit around pretty hard...it sucks cuz sumtimes it would just be sore and i wont be able to move... its usually in the lower part of my back...it also makes ur neck and head hurt if u have back pains...

just do daily stretches when u wake up and b4 u sleep... its helps
and although CRACKING our backs feeel sooooo gooood... it doesnt help it just makes it worse...

E fucks it up nicely too
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