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Nov 30, 05
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The Law of Karma
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The Law of Karma In Buddhist teaching, the law of karma, says only this: `for every event that occurs, there will follow another event whose existence was caused by the first, and this second event will be pleasant or unpleasant according as its cause was skillful or unskillful.' A skillful event is one that is not accompanied by craving, resistance or delusions; an unskillful event is one that is accompanied by any one of those things. (Events are not skillful in themselves, but are so called only in virtue of the mental events that occur with them.) Therefore, the law of Karma teaches that responsibility for unskillful actions is born by the person who commits them. Let's take an example of a sequence of events. An unpleasant sensation occurs. A thought arises that the source of the unpleasantness was a person. (This thought is a delusion; any decisions based upon it will therefore be unskillful.) A thought arises that some past sensations of unpleasantness issued from this same person. (This thought is a further delusion.) This is followed by a willful decision to speak words that will produce an unpleasant sensation in that which is perceived as a person. (This decision is an act of hostility. Of all the events described so far, only this is called a karma.) Words are carefully chosen in the hopes that when heard they will cause pain. The words are pronounced aloud. (This is the execution of the decision to be hostile. It may also be classed as a kind of karma, although technically it is an after-karma.) There is a visual sensation of a furrowed brow and downturned mouth. The thought arises that the other person's face is frowning. The thought arises that the other person's feelings were hurt. There is a fleeting joyful feeling of success in knowing that one has scored a damaging verbal blow. Eventually (perhaps much later) there is an unpleasant sensation of regret, perhaps taking the form of a sensation of fear that the perceived enemy may retaliate, or perhaps taking the form of remorse on having acted impetuously, like an immature child, and hping that no one will remember this childish action. (This regret or fear is the unpleasant ripening of the karma, the unskillful decision to inflict pain through words.) If there are no persons at all, then there is no self and no other. There is no distinction between pain of which there is direct sensual awareness (which is conventionally called one's own pain) and pain that is known through inference (conventionally called another person's pain). Whether pain is known directly or indirectly, there is either an urge to quell it or an urge to cultivate it. Whether joy is known directly or indirectly, there is either an urge to nourish it or to quell it. In the conventional language of speaking of events personally, the urge to quell all pain and to nourish all joy is known as being ethical or skillful or (if you like) good. The urge to nourish pain and quell joy is known as being unskillful, unethical or bad. Being fully ethical is said to be impossible for those who make a distinction between self and other and show preference for the perceived self over the perceived other, for such perceptions inhibit being fully responsive. Being fully ethical is possible only for those who realize that all persons are empty, that is, devoid of personhood. credits to: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/freenet/r...hs/karma2.html 
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Nov 30, 05
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wtf? there was NOTHING aboot green blocks in that rant.
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Nov 30, 05
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whinning about bad karma isnt to cool, if i was to do that....
well i wouldnt have to i dont have ne:P bwahahah very tru nabs,
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Dec 01, 05
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nabs, i think i liked your initial simplification of karma better, this explanation is making my head hurt!
The only real tangible answer i have held onto arising from the riddle of karma, is that our conscious negetive and positive actions have nothing to do with it. Yes i know, it makes no sense, but really i just focus on humanistic principles the best i can, and when im dead perhaps there will be a massive debriefing!
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Dec 01, 05
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I seriously, my beliefs, dont believe in karma. for me everything happens for a reason, whether good or bad. And either way we have to thank God, good things happen we thank god, but we forget about god in the bad times. But if we remember God in our bad times as well as our good then the right way will always be shown.
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Dec 02, 05
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^^i bet he's the preacher.
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Dec 02, 05
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Dec 03, 05
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If you expect good things to come to you then you must harder in life. The harder you work, the more you get ahead the more you will be respected and greater things will come into your life. If you sit on the couch the whole day, the best thing in your life is the tv. What goes around comes around. So play hard!
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Dec 03, 05
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you know people used to kill other people just for saying what they believed to be god's true name? haven't you seen that scene from life of brian? i'll blaspheme all i please because i think that hating on blasphemy is probably one of the most ridiculous things that has come out of religion. 'okay, we're gonna teach you this word, now DON'T USE IT!' suuuuuure. next. ("god" used to be pronounced "YHVH") Last edited by ebbomega; Dec 03, 05 at 02:30 PM.
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because that's really all karma is. spiritual justice. just because you gave a name to god doesn't mean that the other names are wrong.
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YHWH also YHVH or JHVH or JHWH - ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ydhävävhä, yäw, yäw) n. The Hebrew Tetragrammaton representing the name of God. YHVH n : a name for the God of the Old Testament as transliterated from the Hebrew consonants YHVH [syn: Yahweh, YHWH, Yahwe, Yahveh, YHVH, Yahve, Wahvey, Jahvey, Jahweh, Jehovah, JHVH] Have fun with this one =) Last edited by Antenna_Boy; Dec 03, 05 at 03:58 PM.
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Dec 03, 05
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this the worst thread ever. i hate religion.
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Dec 03, 05
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I think the more books you read the more spiritual you get without any of your research pertaining to religion.
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Dec 04, 05
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^^indiana jones taught me alot too.
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Dec 04, 05
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doesn't mean god doesn't also help you out sometimes as well. times can be good and times can be bad. that's part of 'god's' effect on our lives. what we have to worry about is how we deal with the stuff that comes to us. and i don't think someone making blasphemy is really anything to get all steamed off about. stop trying to personify god like he understands the universe like we do. omnipotent beings, in my opinion, are not that linear. jesus talked a lot about respect for each other in god's eye. not just straight ahead respect for god. that's why, theoretically, god sent him to us. not to simply pray to the controlling people claiming to work in god's name and lining their pockets with forgiveness... christ, how many times has the christian church been caught doing the exact same thing in its 2000 years of existance? people got it wrong thinking that there's an almighty power we need to pray to to make our lives better. i reject supremacy for humanism. pray to whoever you want to, but use it to make your life better yourself. for the record, i've made one honest prayer in the past year. it came true, entirely by luck and coincidence. i find a lot of prayer is just getting yourself to ask the right question. this is what happens when you get me talking about religion while baked. sorry for the tldnr
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