is wearing a hat sideways something grown ups don't do?

[matéo]

So my 30 year old brother is talking about a 21 year old he knows. Apparently this 21 year old wears his hat sideways and always says things like "dats dope" This kid is white and lives in surrey in his parents home. He doesnt contribute to hip hop in any way other then listening to it. My brother explains this and then says "I jsut feel like telling him to grow up" Now my first thought was that hip hop is a lifestyle to some and that ebonics and style are a part of that lifestyle. He basically came up with the fact that what the 21 year old is a fad and he will grow out of it like everyone does. I explained to him "The roots" and how hip hop lifestyle is a bit mroe of jsut a fad its a culture blah blah but he wouldn't give.


does he have a point? I really don't disagree with most of it and was mainly playing the devils advocate during our conversation. I mean very rarely do you see a grown 30+ year old acting and dressing like that unless he is actually a member of the hip hop community.

[Technix]

We'll probably see more 30 yr olds like this in 5-10 years...afterall, that's where most of us will be in 5-10 years. But to say that people will grow out of it, that's really up to time itself. Only the person in question can really make that decision. This style is very much a culture thing, but who knows...I don't know that he has a point or not, but certainly 'dis be reeeeal life fo shizzle, yo'. :)

[Sarah...]

i dont think theres anything wrong with wearin your hat sideways.....people can dress how they want....
your brother shouldn't think too hard about things..... most people dress in a way that misrepresents themsleves half the time anyways....
people wear skate gear that dont skate.....people wear camo that that dont litsen to jungle or be in the military......people wear bunsiness type blazers and vests that probably have no knowledge of economics or the business world.... people can wear whatever they feel.....the kid is only 21 too.. maybe when hes your brothers age he'll dress different

[clearist]

Well i think as long as he is still able to present himself in a professional manner at work and any other time that it is necessary than go for it. And hip hop is a lifestyle, i think, becasue you can have someone like that, all 'gangster' with his ballin' atire, or somone like myself who when looknig at me you probably wouldnt make the natural assumpion that i listen to hip-hop religiously. As long as he is not perpetuating neggative stereotypes like slangin dope etc. than all i can say is to each their own.

And kind of off topic, i think the term wigger is rediculous. Its like saying becasue im not black i cannot listen to rap or hip hop. F*ck that. Cultures generally DO run with race, but a lifystyle is a choice you make.

[starbright]

[Cdn_Brdr]

I'm 28, I have a kid, I hold down a great job in one of the busiest hospitals in the province, I own a home, I wear baggy jeans, I wear my hat to the side.

What you wear doesn't necessarily dictate your maturity level. As long as you can put it to the side when need be (ie: at work etc...) then keep on doin' whatcha do.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by starbright

Holy smokes! If that is you in the picture Nicole, you are smoking hot!!! *drools* =)

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by matéo

So my 30 year old brother is talking about a 21 year old he knows. Apparently this 21 year old wears his hat sideways and always says things like "dats dope" This kid is white and lives in surrey in his parents home. He doesnt contribute to hip hop in any way other then listening to it. My brother explains this and then says "I jsut feel like telling him to grow up" Now my first thought was that hip hop is a lifestyle to some and that ebonics and style are a part of that lifestyle. He basically came up with the fact that what the 21 year old is a fad and he will grow out of it like everyone does. I explained to him "The roots" and how hip hop lifestyle is a bit mroe of jsut a fad its a culture blah blah but he wouldn't give.


does he have a point? I really don't disagree with most of it and was mainly playing the devils advocate during our conversation. I mean very rarely do you see a grown 30+ year old acting and dressing like that unless he is actually a member of the hip hop community.

what if the guy has a bit of a spilt personality, as in the fact that he he only dresses or tal;ks like that when its appropriate. as far as im concerned talking and dressing like that is somehting more mature people do not do. however whose to say that he's not highly professional when he needs to be. perhaps he's a lawyer, banker, dentist or some other type of professional who at work is well spoken and wears a suit and tie to work everyday. its just that when he's in a more relaxed atmosphere he reverts back to his 'gangsta' roots.

he could also give up his gangstah affectations entirely yet still be immersed in hip hop culture and 'lifestyle'.

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by starbright

hahaha where did you find that pic? that guy look oddly familiar. gold, nonetheless.

[Gusto]

its mchammered

[Bevvy Swift]

bwahahahaha

wait.... is that winston? did he shrink in the wash? or is that chick from the amazon? or is have we found winston's "mini me"?

[Gusto]

i just told you who it was. don't fuckin doubt me in front of the whole internet, dude. that's cold.

[Bevvy Swift]

hahahahaaha sorry gusty. but i seriously still dont know. he looks way too short. or maybe that chick is too tall. or maybe you were joking? im so cunfused!!!

[Gusto]

it's him. three times now. holy shit.

[starbright]

geez bevan put some faith in ryan, or browse the board a little...
http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.php?t=88021
there there. i know you confuse easily :silly:

the point is that he's an adult, wearing a sideways cap.

and antenna_boy, whoever the heck you are, the girl is definitely not me... i'm not even 5'-3".
ps - try going to clubvibes or clubzone to mack on girls you don't know. kthxbye.

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by starbright

geez bevan put some faith in ryan, or browse the board a little...
http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.php?t=88021
there there. i know you confuse easily :silly:

the point is that he's an adult, wearing a sideways cap.

and antenna_boy, whoever the heck you are, the girl is definitely not me... i'm not even 5'-3".
ps - try going to clubvibes or clubzone to mack on girls you don't know. kthxbye.

okay, ill take you word for it. but that girl is definately too tall to be standing next to winston.

[Gusto]

oh yeah, you take her word for it, jerkmode.

[C_squared]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

I'm 28, I have a kid, I hold down a great job in one of the busiest hospitals in the province, I own a home, I wear baggy jeans, I wear my hat to the side.

What you wear doesn't necessarily dictate your maturity level. As long as you can put it to the side when need be (ie: at work etc...) then keep on doin' whatcha do.

respect.

and to that I'll add... Fix up look shaaarp!

[Clayton.]

I bet he thinks g-unit is cool and eminem is hip hop.

[miss.myra]

no, some people definitely shouldn't pull that shit no matter how old they are, they reek of trying too hard and it's just not cool at all. maybe that's the vibe your brother is getting.

[BongMan]

Nicole your hot it was bound to happen :)

[justa~gurl]

Originally Posted by matéo

So my 30 year old brother is talking about a 21 year old he knows. Apparently this 21 year old wears his hat sideways and always says things like "dats dope" This kid is white and lives in surrey in his parents home. He doesnt contribute to hip hop in any way other then listening to it. My brother explains this and then says "I jsut feel like telling him to grow up" Now my first thought was that hip hop is a lifestyle to some and that ebonics and style are a part of that lifestyle. He basically came up with the fact that what the 21 year old is a fad and he will grow out of it like everyone does. I explained to him "The roots" and how hip hop lifestyle is a bit mroe of jsut a fad its a culture blah blah but he wouldn't give.


does he have a point? I really don't disagree with most of it and was mainly playing the devils advocate during our conversation. I mean very rarely do you see a grown 30+ year old acting and dressing like that unless he is actually a member of the hip hop community.

i think you've both got good points, but i think styles do change and develope throughout life right? so this 21 year old may really be feeling hip-hop, but later down the road his life may change and he might not feel so connected anymore with that type of lifestyle.

and i think a lot of people pick that type of lifestyle because they don't know who they are or what they are doing in their life.. it's just the mainstream right now right?

like i see lots of girls who wear their hats sideways and roll up their pant legs, but when you ask them about hip-hop they're like "oh we love 50 cent!"
to me,they might as well be saying "we love britnay spears!"

thats why i'm not a HUGE fan of hip-hop.. i appreciate it, and there are some tracks that i absolutely love.. the ones about life and philosophy and whatnot.. but most of it, i grew up in maple ridge riding horses and playing in forests.. i can't really relate to it.. i can only appreciate it!

i dunno, i just think i would be mis-representing myself and hip-hop otherwise

[matéo]

Yeah I totally agree.

I mean the kid can where his hat whatever way but he portrays himself as someone he isnt and thats whats annoying I guess.

[fritz]

Putting aside the notion that clothes are a (mis)representation of a person:

if someone cared what you thought about their clothes they would change them, but they dont, so they dont.

[.muffy.]

^ wears a sideways hat ALL THE TIME