This is why Vancity needs to have an age limit for parties.

[Pennywise]

"hey mister, i really like your daughter"

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

and bitching about it helps how?

Brings the issue out into the open and obviously offending promoters are noticing. Does more than people saying nothing.

Maybe you'd care more if you had a daughter.

[Cdn_Brdr]

Sure I'd care if it was my daughter, but it's not. The likelihood of a dress code at a rave is non-existant. A paying customer is just that and promoters, for the most part, can't afford to turn them away. I'm not trying to say I like it but you have to look at it for what it is.

They are going to do it anyways! I can find things a lot more worthy to make a rally cry for you know what I mean?

[miss.myra]

Clubs have dresscodes ALL the time that people care enough to abide by and wait out all night in the cold for. So do Yoga studios! It's not going to stop people from going even with the dresscode in place.


*edit, and this thread was calling for an agelimit not a dresscode, so if people want to front like a cheap whore, at least jailbaitality doesn't ensue.

[Cdn_Brdr]

Come on Myra... I mean granted, it isn't the same now so much as it was in years past but the whole idea of a rave has always been anti-establishment, come as you are, do what you like... I honestly don't think you'll ever see a dress code. It's NOT a club or an established community business! It's a bloody rave party.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

Come on Myra... I mean granted, it isn't the same now so much as it was in years past but the whole idea of a rave has always been anti-establishment, come as you are, do what you like... I honestly don't think you'll ever see a dress code. It's NOT a club or an established community business! It's a bloody rave party.

A legal rave with all the proper permits and police presence anti establishment? The paradox is killing me.

[C_squared]

That's what I love about them raver girls... I get older, they stay the same age.

Originally Posted by eighty5

If promoters cared for the 'rave scene' then they wouldn't allow shit like this to happen. Prime example are the boys at Silverwaters/Agroculture, they happen to on one hell of a show WITH liquor and have a proper license and managed to keep that running till 5am.

Promoters sit back and pretend like they cant do anything about it, when really they can, they just dont want to because they like the money and its easier this way.

Wow - If that isn't ass talk if I had ever seen it.

Seriously, promoters have fought for years to make these events all ages. There are laws in Vancouver that state all ages events like these shouldn't happen, but as they are archaic and outdated, and they aren't enforced.

If I were to turn away every girl that wasn't properly clothed to a party, then I would lose half of my paying public, and I would get trashed on the internet for being a bitch. You can't have it both ways. I have seen you post about several other parties that you went to this year that have the same demographic, and you try and make an example out of this one? I have seen various shady get ups, including a girl wearing electrical tape over her nipples, or a mesh leotard one piece body suit. Were these girls made fun of here, no.

And this isn't about the money, this is about coming as you are, being who you are, and having fun as you are. This is the rave scene, it should be about acceptance.

Way to go to Josh and Dave for putting on an excellent event. They took on a huge risk and an even bigger liability with it being 19+ and serving alcohol. A lot of promoters wouldn't want to take that risk. Kudos to them.

But seriously eighty5, when you throw a party by yourself, and take on the risk, then you have the right to make a judgement like we don't care and it is all about the cash.

ps - if you don't like it, don't go, didn't you retire 18 times already?

pps- I hate booty shorts just as much as everyone, but that doesn't mean I am not going to ban them.

[Sykonee]

Raves should have an age limit, but for different reasons than stated here. Fact of the matter is the things that go on at raves really shouldn't be exposed to the youngin's. Many just don't have the experience neccessary to deal with a number of shitfalls that could occur without prior knowledge. The reality of the situation is often far removed from the fantasy, especially when it comes to the more illicit nature of many parties. Folks figure they'll "just drop and have a lawf", without ever knowing what they're in for.

It helps when they come with folks older and more experienced, of course, but then these older folks also have a responsibilty to look out for the younger folk.

As for the way they dress, what's the big deal? Sure, if you're Chubby McChubberson and where booty shorts, it looks tacky as Hell, but they're only going to set themselves up for public ridicule more than anything else. If you see someone dressed like that, do them a favor and diss the living crap out them. They'll never wear that stuff again.

[Cdn_Brdr]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

A legal rave with all the proper permits and police presence anti establishment? The paradox is killing me.

The scene may have to conform in order to move on but the principles stay the same. Stop worrying so much about what other people do and focus on what you do. Trust me, it's not worth it anyways.

It's the same thing I said when people used to rip on candy kids... who gives a fuck!? Let them do what they do and if you don't like it... move on. That's what I do.

[Kraig]

Originally Posted by Avana

Way to go to Josh and Dave for putting on an excellent event. They took on a huge risk and an even bigger liability with it being 19+ and serving alcohol. A lot of promoters wouldn't want to take that risk. Kudos to them.

Wouldn't want too... fuck I would love too take the risk and sell liquor BUT... We are a legally registered company with the City of Vancouver (Twisted Productions Inc.) If we were to ever throw an underground show that isn't permitted and get caught, we would loose that license very quickly.

PS - for everyone bitching about booty shorts, here is a lot of love for them

http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.php?t=81542

Originally Posted by Kraig

Wouldn't want too... fuck I would love too take the risk and sell liquor BUT... We are a legally registered company with the City of Vancouver (Twisted Productions Inc.) If we were to ever throw an underground show that isn't permitted and get caught, we would loose that license very quickly.

And Kraig, that was exactley my point. It IS a scary and risky liability. Different strokes for different folks.

[MissBehavior]

As bad as I'm sure these pics are, I'm almost sorry that I missed them...Then maybe I could make my expected ascerbic comments. :p

[baby-phat]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

It's the same thing I said when people used to rip on candy kids... who gives a fuck!? Let them do what they do and if you don't like it... move on. That's what I do.

But at least the candy kids left somethin to the imagination and didn't let it all hang out. =P

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by .daisy.

The same thing happens at almost all your events. I know what to expect when I show up. Masses of extremely high 15 girls in their panties listening to horrible trance.
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Okay, then, bring in a better DJ to play better trance..duh~ :mexitoke: and you are still going to have the same teeny-boppers bopping away to this time good trance~ :(

Originally Posted by Nev

Winston, when I started partying, the bigger your pants, the better. Scandal just wasnt a part of it. Sure I was 17, but I wasn't high and I wasn't naked!

hahahah been there!!!!!!!!!!

[FeelGood]

Originally Posted by Avana

Wow - If that isn't ass talk if I had ever seen it.

Seriously, promoters have fought for years to make these events all ages. There are laws in Vancouver that state all ages events like these shouldn't happen, but as they are archaic and outdated, and they aren't enforced.

If I were to turn away every girl that wasn't properly clothed to a party, then I would lose half of my paying public, and I would get trashed on the internet for being a bitch. You can't have it both ways. I have seen you post about several other parties that you went to this year that have the same demographic, and you try and make an example out of this one? I have seen various shady get ups, including a girl wearing electrical tape over her nipples, or a mesh leotard one piece body suit. Were these girls made fun of here, no.

And this isn't about the money, this is about coming as you are, being who you are, and having fun as you are. This is the rave scene, it should be about acceptance.

Way to go to Josh and Dave for putting on an excellent event. They took on a huge risk and an even bigger liability with it being 19+ and serving alcohol. A lot of promoters wouldn't want to take that risk. Kudos to them.

But seriously eighty5, when you throw a party by yourself, and take on the risk, then you have the right to make a judgement like we don't care and it is all about the cash.

ps - if you don't like it, don't go, didn't you retire 18 times already?

pps- I hate booty shorts just as much as everyone, but that doesn't mean I am not going to ban them.

I retired twice kthxbye.

PS. Next time dont waste your own time posting all that.

[Antenna_Boy]

^ You and I had a great time at JOOF! =)

Originally Posted by eighty5

Here are some pictures taken from Evolve Entertainment's 'Freeze' party held on Dec. 10/2005. Let the pictures speak for themselves.










EDIT: These photos were taken down by clubzone.com

Im sorry, but I find this truely disgusting. I find it EVEN worse that clubzone.com is promoting pictures like these right on their website.

What a fuckin' shame.

u just wish u got to touch em :D:D:D

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by alla

u just wish u got to touch em :D:D:D

maybe he did ;)

[.muffy.]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

Okay, then, bring in a better DJ to play better trance..duh~ :mexitoke: and you are still going to have the same teeny-boppers bopping away to this time good trance~ :(

Probably the reason I dont like massive parties. I prefer smaller more intimate nights where the girls dont have the dress like sluts to enjoy themselves and still look hot.
There's something to be said for modesty

[Antenna_Boy]

that is a BIG AGREED!!!

[Erin]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

Like all you 'senior' party people weren't that age at one time.

Yeah, but I was always fully clothed.

[Antenna_Boy]

^you are such a lady...you get a hug for that :)

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Erin again.