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Feb 28, 06
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playing your best poker game yet
Ever have one of those nights where you're just unstoppable? I won $350 tonight at our weekly game which means I've won 4 weeks in a row. Now I'm just chilling out on Absolute Poker, up $13420 chips in a NL Hold'Em game. I love this game.
(ps, Omaha H/L sucks) 
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Feb 28, 06
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omaha is a nice change of pace from no limit from time to time I don't mind playin it.. different things to pay attention to
absolute poker is kinda dumb in fake chip mode, its so easy to get upto like 40gs.. but personally I got sick of playing online and just play real games .. everyone online is retarded, its harder to play against retarded people haha
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Feb 28, 06
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yeah.. I just play it to teach myself discipline. it's easy to throw money around when it's not real, so I treat it like it's actually mine to lose. I've been playing Hold'Em for about three years now, but only online for about a month. I've noticed a huge pickup in my game since I started practicing online.
I like Omaha, just not High/Low.
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Feb 28, 06
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Yeah you definitely improve your skills, but I just got bored of it I played online for like a year .. I wouldnt mind playin again for real money online and seein how much i can make. I know ppl that do that and they make shit loads of money
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Feb 28, 06
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It is quite a difference calling a $1000 bet with your own money vs. fake money. BTW it take a lot more skill to play Omaha than Holdem.
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Feb 28, 06
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^^^ true that your money speaks a lot more than virtual money... Sit down at a table with people your DON"T know (ie not your poker buddies) trying all night to read them, then throw down some real money ($1000) out of your own pocket on a call... Then see how easy it is to get up.... You desisions are second guessed... You not so quick to throw in your chips... etc.... You wanna sit down with me and some real money, anyday..... :)
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Feb 28, 06
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I still much prefer holdem though. Especially don't like playin any kind of LIMIT game.. seems like its always the cards that decide those games and not as much the players.
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Feb 28, 06
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There is more skill in limit then No-limit, and pot-limit has more skill then both
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Feb 28, 06
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Ummmm, I dont think that is right.... no limit is the ultimate.. limit you always know what the limit is... (obviously) and therefore your know the limits of your oppenent are, and therefore you dont need to bet as much to "feel" out what he/she has... no limit, your opponent could be bluffing or could hold the aces and then you have to pay for it... pot size is always a factor, and in limit, theres a limit.. and you know what the max is... no limit, he/she goes all in then what.... I agree that more math is invloved with limit... But more guts and person reading skills is required for no limit... Anybody wanna play... I'm all in...
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Feb 28, 06
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Feb 28, 06
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how much skill is needed to wait for Aces and go all-in in no-limit? I think i could train somebody that doesnt know s**t about poker to do that pretty fast. Why do u need people reading skills in no-limit when u can just push in all your chips before your opponent does? How would you play against someone in limit that raises all your blinds, isolates all your calls, and 3bets whenever u raise? You'll see where you need people reading skills more
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Feb 28, 06
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sure, and I am sure you are talkin from experience.... But ask anybody that isnt you, and knows what they are talkin about.... look online... see where everybody is playin, read what the pros say... you dont just have to take my word on it...
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Feb 28, 06
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Typical scenario..
No limit = Push all you chips in and see if anyone wants to gamble with you and see if your big pocket pair stands up. Limit = see if you can read what your opponent has or does not have and if you know that they missed bet and take the pot with probably a worse hand than they are holding, or make a move on them when the board changes to make them fold. Now which takes more skill?
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Mar 01, 06
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^ lets site down and play then..
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Mar 01, 06
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im going to have to disagree with this whole god damn thread
first of all, anyone who thinks they can "improve" their game by playing online for play money is a donkey. simply because the "plays" you can make their would almost never work with real money. another thing is that the reactions and moves your opponents make are a lot different then what they would really do with their own money. secondly i have to say the skill level involved in playing limit/pot limit/no limit is roughly the same. each with their own specifics though. first off, i am biased towards no limit because thats all i play (anything under 20/40 limit is a joke and i dont have the roll to play anything above that) i cant say to much on pot limit simply beause i've maybe played it once. as for limit and no limit, i have to go with no limit. limit is way more of a gamble than no limit simply because of the fish that play. there's no real way of chasing out a stubborn opponent, and anyone who hasnt studied limit will almost always think that the pot odds demand that they call with their flush/straight/whatever draw. no limit, if you put in the hours and actually know what you're doing, you can control the table with little effort. you can destroy other peoples odds and command the table to do your bidding. i could talk all day on why i believe no limit to be a better game, but hey....if limit is working for you, stick with what works. if you'd actually like to have decent conversation on the matter, add me to msn [email protected]
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Mar 01, 06
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^^^ I agree in full....
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Mar 01, 06
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no limit - having some donkey call your all in with a lower pocket pair and doubling through him. limit - attempting to protect you hand by raising with you rockets, raising when you hit top set on the flop, then end up losing half your stack on the river when the guy hits his idiot straight.
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Mar 01, 06
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So you typically lose all the time?
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Mar 01, 06
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this is how I see it.. limit poker is slow and repetitive, and personally, I can't see how you can read into someone's raise because it's a set amount, whereas no limit betting is much more complex. You can raise 5 chips, and make the person wonder if you're baiting them for more chips, whether you have a decent hand or a great hand, or even a hand at all. Or you can raise 20, make a person think you're buying the pot and they call your full boat, kings full of aces. No Limit incorporates bluffing into the game much more than Limit does, which in turn adds a lot more strategy to the game. That's my two chips anyways.
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Mar 01, 06
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Mar 02, 06
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I love it when you kids egg me to take you on. LOL!
Anytime. Limit players can make money in no limit but I have yet to see a no limit player from ANY of the games that are spread in Vancouver beat a 15/30 or higher limit holdem game consistantly? Why? They can't take figure out the moves that everyone is making and they can't just sit there and trap when they get a hand. Anyone who has the basics of holdem in mind can just sit there and whittle away the 3/6 blinds until they pick up a hand and come out storming. Try doing the same when you are forced to open up your hand selection a bit due to the higher blind structures. A no limit player sat in our shorthanded 20/40 game two weeks at the Holiday Inn Casino on Broadway. We took all of the $1200 he cashed in as he was like a open book with how he bets, raises and shoots off his mouth. Didn't take too long watching his hand selection and betting patterns to put him game into a box and pick it apart when he misses and tries to make a move with overcards and we know he missed. Bluffing? It takes much more skill to bluff in limit than no limit. Hard to call with a pair of aces when a flush is shown and a guy pushes all in. Try setting a guy up to make him believe you have a flush when you don't and bluff him out of a pot for just ONE BET. In no limit the guy who has the most chips on the table dominates the game. The only rule you have to abide by... and if you don't already know this then you better reanalyze your game... is be aware of the chipstack of the opponent you are playing against. People are being brainwashed by TV thinking that no limit is 'THE' game and everything else is not worth the time. That's pretty funny considering there are many, many people that make a really good living playing limit vs. the other way around.
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Mar 02, 06
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Maybe I just don't understand the subtlies to Limit Hold'Em and maybe I just need to play with more advanced Limit players. Perhaps one day someone like you will school me enough to understand it, but until then No Limit stands as my favourite poker game.
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Mar 02, 06
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i never said there was no money to be made in limit games.
i was basically pointing out the fact that unless you have a large enough roll to play higher limit games, it's almost impossible. beacuase you basically have no control, and the rake is rediculous. i prefer no limit a lot more because it suites my playing style more. there are a million different situations which could show off the advantages of either, which we've already stated a few. they one thing i did want to comment on tho, was winston's bluffing comment. It's not hard to bluff in no limit, but think of how much harder it is to call a bluff in no limit. either way, as i previously stated. to each their own. stick with what works for you
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Mar 02, 06
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The guy with the most chip on the table can dominate the game for hours. I did it for 5 hours at River Rock when my 20/40 game broke and I went to play 3/6 no limit. Once you get over $1000 in front of you and everyone else have less than $300 you can pretty much steal pots every other hand IF you have a read down on the people and know positional play. Hard to call a bet that can bust you when you know those are the last chips you own. This goes once again into psychology and why you need to have a read on people.
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