Canucks at Trade Deadline

stimulant j · #1 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

As much I hate them .. i want them to make the playoffs so I may get to see my AVS twice in the post season.

HOWEVER.. the damn team is slipping. only 3 PTS ahead of Edmonton who is in 8th!
Then u got Anaheim who are sitting in 9th --- 7 pts behind the canucks BUT w/ 3 GAMES IN HAND.

im thinkin 1 more 3 game losing streak for the nucks this season and u could possibly kiss the post season good buy.

NONIS is an idiot too .. u thought BURKE was trigger shy ..
If i was him I`d seriously make a push for some help.

Eric Wienrich (STL - end of career dependable for playoffs, cheap)
Cujo ( get rid of Bertuzzi if u have to LOL)
McCabe is goin sumwhere for sure .. too bad the canucks couldnt afford him.

I hope that Lacroix in Denver pulls another trick this year... Jokinen would look good in an Avs jersey :132:

Goodfellow · #2 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

Canucks will make the playoffs.....no prob. don't you worry about that

meh for losing brian mccabe, he wasn't standout-ish playing for canucks.. he just probably has better chemistry on toronto .. I wouldn't want him back if I had to give up a core defensemen.. no way.

I don't like Nonis though .. he'll never have enuff balls to pull a blockbuster to get a goalie

Senior · #3 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

This is his first year as a GM and the trade deadline isn't until the 9th (at midnight). At least wait until he has a track record to start criticising it. Personally I won't be surprised to see some big moves. Draft picks and maybe even Luc Bourdon could move if the right deal is there and if it's not than he's smart to not make a bad trade just for the sake of appeasing a bunch of people who think they know hockey.

KenJi · #4 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

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I don't like Nonis though .. he'll never have enuff balls to pull a blockbuster to get a goalie

This guy hit the nail on the coffin.

I always thought giving losing Burke was big.

Now it seems huge rather than big.

We need some defence even when Ohlund comes back were still gonna be weak in the back, and up front Bertuzzi still has to get going. None of this one game good next few bad.

Were paying the guy 5 million + here

KenJi · #5 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

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Originally Posted by Senior

This is his first year as a GM and the trade deadline isn't until the 9th (at midnight). At least wait until he has a track record to start criticising it. Personally I won't be surprised to see some big moves. Draft picks and maybe even Luc Bourdon could move if the right deal is there and if it's not than he's smart to not make a bad trade just for the sake of appeasing a bunch of people who think they know hockey.

The longer you wait for the trade deadline. The less players available and its alot harder to make a good trade.

Doesn't anyone remember the last season luckily we got rucinsky and sanderson, but seriously there were no players left for Burke to get.

That deal alone was as good of a deal as was left. We could have got weight if we wanted.

Mangle · #6 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

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meh for losing brian mccabe, he wasn't standout-ish playing for canucks.. he just probably has better chemistry on toronto .. I wouldn't want him back if I had to give up a core defensemen.. no way.

Yeah, I can't imagine he'd do much for us again. Nor Adrian Aucoin. It would be really nice to get rid of "Giveaway" Jovo and injured nothing Ohlund though.

Cdn_Brdr · #7 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

There are so many rumours in the works right now it's ridiculous. The latest one I've seen is Bertuzzi to Ottawa for either Chara or Redden.

Personally I don't think Bert is worth the 5.3 he's making so getting rid of him would make sense. If anything it might do him some good (a la Heatley to Ottawa).

If Jovo was healthy he would have been a guaranteed trade I think too. It's a shame that his injury pretty much prevents a trade. Now he'll just jump ship in the off season as a UFA to some team that offers him ridiculous coin and we won't get jack for him.

omega_image · #8 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

my picks as for who's on our chopping block

morrison
and as much as i hate to say it, park

thats really about it. bert's not going to go anywhere, no team in their right mind is going to give us a decent trade for him, maybe a 1st line dman and a draft pick. but i dont think any of the dmen we're looking at will be coming our way.

Senior · #9 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

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Originally Posted by Mangle

Yeah, I can't imagine he'd do much for us again. Nor Adrian Aucoin. It would be really nice to get rid of "Giveaway" Jovo and injured nothing Ohlund though.

Do you watch hockey??? Jovo is an offensive player and does make defensive errors but that's his style of play and why the Canucks wanted him. Ohlund is recognized as one of the best defence men in the league and I just have no idea where you are coming from...

At the end of the day people the question is this, does it make sense to make a bad trade for the sake of making a trade. Anyone remember Cam Nealy.

KenJi · #10 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

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Originally Posted by Mangle

Yeah, I can't imagine he'd do much for us again. Nor Adrian Aucoin. It would be really nice to get rid of "Giveaway" Jovo and injured nothing Ohlund though.

Injured nothing Ohlund? Are you nuts?

Ohlund's injury is minor and he'll be back in a week or two. He's only out with a brusied rib and shoulder as far as I remember hearing.

but mark my words alot of the best players in the NHL knows how tough it is to play against Ohlund.

He faces off with the best of the other team. Iginla, Forsberg, Alfreddson you name it most nights the main defencemen covering them is Ohlund.

As far as Jovo yea as much as I don't like him because this year especially he made some big defensive mistakes as compare to other years but we need him.

I'm just worried when Jovo comes back if he is gonna be even more rusty than the first time he came back from injury before re-injuring himself in that same game.

Senior · #11 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

Do people realize that Sweden and Canada both have a bit of depth when it comes to picking Olympic rosters and for both those players to be selected 2 Olympics in a row...

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Injured nothing Ohlund? Are you nuts?

Ohlund's injury is minor and he'll be back in a week or two. He's only out with a brusied rib and shoulder as far as I remember hearing.

but mark my words alot of the best players in the NHL knows how tough it is to play against Ohlund.

He faces off with the best of the other team. Iginla, Forsberg, Alfreddson you name it most nights the main defencemen covering them is Ohlund.

As far as Jovo yea as much as I don't like him because this year especially he made some big defensive mistakes as compare to other years but we need him.

I'm just worried when Jovo comes back if he is gonna be even more rusty than the first time he came back from injury before re-injuring himself in that same game.

Mangle · #12 (**permalink**) Mar 07, 06

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Do you watch hockey??? Jovo is an offensive player and does make defensive errors but that's his style of play and why the Canucks wanted him. Ohlund is recognized as one of the best defence men in the league and I just have no idea where you are coming from...

Do I watch hockey? My family had season tickets from 1993-1998, club seats. Yeah, I've seen a game or two. Ohlund doesn't do shit but get injured and not live up to his massive hype and salary. Jovo just blows. Sure, he scores a decent goal every third game or so but at least twice every game he has to give the other team a needless breakaway or totally open shot off an idiotic giveaway. They're both retarded and Vancouver will never get anywhere with either of them. I miss Dave Babych.

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Injured nothing Ohlund? Are you nuts?
Ohlund's injury is minor and he'll be back in a week or two. He's only out with a brusied rib and shoulder as far as I remember hearing.
but mark my words alot of the best players in the NHL knows how tough it is to play against Ohlund.

Sure, they do. Goalies, on the other hand, have never heard of him.

Senior · #13 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

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Originally Posted by Mangle

Do I watch hockey? My family had season tickets from 1993-1998, club seats. Yeah, I've seen a game or two. Ohlund doesn't do shit but get injured and not live up to his massive hype and salary. Jovo just blows. Sure, he scores a decent goal every third game or so but at least twice every game he has to give the other team a needless breakaway or totally open shot off an idiotic giveaway. They're both retarded and Vancouver will never get anywhere with either of them. I miss Dave Babych.

Sure, they do. Goalies, on the other hand, have never heard of him.

That's funny since Ohlund played every game of 03-04 and is on track to miss a total of 5 this year. Jovo on the other hand is a career minus player so you have a bit of a case but when you keep in mind that he is usually on the top defensive pair playing night in and night out against the best players it's not so bad. Then you hate on Ohlund for never scoring and say you miss Dave babych???? Unless you were a jets fan (maybe you were...) in the early 80's I have no idea what you're talking about. Babych never scored more than 5 goals as a Canuck in a season while Ohlund scored 14 goals as a stay at home defence man in 03-04. For the record just because daddy bought you season tickets still doesn't mean you know shit.

Mangle · #14 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

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That's funny since Ohlund played every game of 03-04 and is on track to miss a total of 5 this year. Jovo on the other hand is a career minus player so you have a bit of a case but when you keep in mind that he is usually on the top defensive pair playing night in and night out against the best players it's not so bad. Then you hate on Ohlund for never scoring and say you miss Dave babych???? Unless you were a jets fan (maybe you were...) in the early 80's I have no idea what you're talking about. Babych never scored more than 5 goals as a Canuck in a season while Ohlund scored 14 goals as a stay at home defence man in 03-04. For the record just because daddy bought you season tickets still doesn't mean you know shit.

Yeah, Ohlund's a real hero. Hang on to that dream, buddy. Don't hate me because I've been to more games than you.

KenJi · #15 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

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Originally Posted by Mangle

Sure, they do. Goalies, on the other hand, have never heard of him.

He's a defensemen. Not a forwards. His job is to play defense first than offense.

He was a runner up for the Calder Trophy for Rookie of the Year.

Of coarse he's a nobody right?

KenJi · #16 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

I'm just gonna leave it with this.

Ohlund was the runner up for the Calder Trophy for Rookie of the Year.

He was chosen as a first team member for the all rookie team. He's played in All Star Games. He is known as a core member of Team Sweden's defense along with Niklas Lidstrom.

He's a career plus +4, but I guess you got your Babych nuts on your chin eh.

Mangle · #17 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

I'm not saying he isn't the greatest player to ever put on the skates and pansy around. I'm just saying he has an invisibility cloak on. Woo...magical. Jim Campbell was a finalist once too. Bring back Dana Murzyn!

Belms · #18 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

^

just how high are you..?

KenJi · #19 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

^ Jim Campbell was a winger. Its alot easier to get noticed for the Calder Trophy when your a forward.

Ohlund is a Solid defensemen. I bet if Nonis put him on the trade block when he was healthy alot of teams would be asking about him.

Thats the point I am putting but you make it seem like he's a nobody. He's just not a flashy defensemen but he does his job most nights.

Séguin · #20 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

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There are so many rumours in the works right now it's ridiculous. The latest one I've seen is Bertuzzi to Ottawa for either Chara or Redden.

Personally I don't think Bert is worth the 5.3 he's making so getting rid of him would make sense. If anything it might do him some good (a la Heatley to Ottawa).

I heard about this a while ago... I don't think it's true. Which is good cause I don't want Bertuzzi... neither does anybody in Ottawa (that isn't a Toronto fan that is).

Mangle · #21 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

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^ Jim Campbell was a winger. Its alot easier to get noticed for the Calder Trophy when your a forward.

But they're more willing to nominate a rookie defenseman with average stats than a forward on a good team. I mean, he had 30 points. Woo...hoo. And, when he's not to busy taking pucks to the eye, he's totally invisible. I'd much rather have Brad Stuart. I love the Canucks but their top players (except for Naslund) are total dinks. Bert, Clouts, Jovo, and Ohlund need to go. They've proven year after year that we're never going to win anything with them here...and Naslund can't do shit without a strong line around him (wouldn't it be great to actually get him a #1 centre some day?). This year, this is Carter/the Sedin's team.

Anjew · #22 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

Huge Pickup For The Oilers!

oddmud · #23 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

This Mangle guy is a complete idiot, everyone just ignore the guy. Ohlund is not going anywhere, and probably won't for some time. Jovo sure makes some mistakes from time to time, but HELLO?!?! Doesn't, Chara, Pronger, McCabe, Chelios, and most defencemen. Jovo is a power play powerhouse. He is useful, his contract is up this summer, so he is very dealable, but I'm sure nonis probably wont touch him. If any of the key defenceman are going anywhere, it'll be him.

My personal thoughts would be that Bert should go, but Nonis probably doesn't want to do that because of the "just in case" factor. Which will prove himself wrong if Big Bert doesn't come through next year. I love bert, I proudly wore my "FREE BERTUZZI" shirt when I was DJing in Colorado. But I think the guy has too much weight on his shoulders, and isn't going to recover quick enough. He's had almost a full season, and nothing is improving. Time to move on my friend, and I'll watch him on another team.

Remember guys this is Nonis' first year running the ship, he's cautious. He's got a scapegoat if things don't work out the best. But if he deals a key player, and that guy goes on to do wonders, and the trade we get is in effective, he won't be on for a 2nd, and 3rd season as GM.

Goalie? Hello, all we now need is a backup. Auld is looking very solid, remember when everyone was healty? He stood on his head, and he's almost got 30 wins this season. So he's as good as Cloutier, so I say deal Clouts away. He's had too many seasons, only to flop EVERY playoffs. This is Auld's year, and all the haters out there, shut your yap, and look at the stats! He's #7 in Wins, #18 in save percentage, AND #5 WITH TOTAL SHOTS AGAINST! So in my books he's our #1 for now, and the future.

Moon · #24 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

i think morrison could be a potential trade. hes a really good skater and can set up good plays but he is not solid in executing scoring chances... and he gets many chances. we could probably get someone big for morrisons talent. For Bertuzzi we could get someone very solid..... i love bert but he really needs to start bustin his ass cuz hes unstoppable when he actually tries. but overall, our offense is solid. defense..... when we don't have so many injured players, is solid as well.... although i've been pretty impressed with our farm team players. Mccarty and Bieska are bustin their asses out there, especially Mccarty.

What we really need is a solid back up goalie. Oullett is just terrible. and auld is having to play too many games which is increasing the risk of injury. it's giving him alot of experience and opportunities to become a better goalie but something needs to be done in that section if we're gonna have any hopes for getting far in the playoffs.

Mangle · #25 (**permalink**) Mar 08, 06

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This Mangle guy is a complete idiot, everyone just ignore the guy.

Well aren't you just Pat Quinn. I have an opinion about my favourite team. Deal with it, needledick.

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Jovo sure makes some mistakes from time to time, but HELLO?!?! Doesn't, Chara, Pronger, McCabe, Chelios, and most defencemen.

No, he makes horrible, game losing mistakes every game he's in. Chara kills Jovo. Pronger is overrated, McCabe didn't do much while he was here, and I've been wishing Chelios was dead for 20 years. Chara would be nice, though.