Do you think Columbine High School is Haunted?

[gnosis]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/3978020.html

Sorry.
Just the way my mind thinks.

I mean, I came across this article, and I wondered about the head-space of the kids going to that school, 7 years, later.

How would _YOU_ feel, going to the library, and having lunch in the cafeteria, where you *know* people died?

Then, my mind naturally wandered over to thinking about the way high school students think, and wondered about what kind of "legends", stories, or real happenings that circulate among the student body, today.

AND! Just this article, alone, about the memorial service, the ground-breaking for the Memorial, itself...
Think about aaaaaaaall that energy being focused on one place with one collective thought...
It's almost like a seance, en masse...

What can something like that DO to a place, and the collective conciousness of the people surrounding it?

Just curious about stuff like that.

Frosty
(has reason)

[Haze]

I think that it is possible, as if those that were lost are not forgotten then it would be feasilble that their spirit will live on; especially in that place. So in point form I would say very likely... But I believe in ghosts and such. (those that don't will prolly just say I am a quack :D)

- ë

[Greg C.]

lol

I used to travel to denver all the time. We actually walked through columbine. it was kinda creepy......

Greg

[Mangle]

It's probably haunted by the fact Walmart still sells the guns that killed those kids.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by Mangle

It's probably haunted by the fact Walmart still sells the guns that killed those kids.

The GUNS didn't point themselves and pull the trigger. People with severe issues did. If guns didn't exist those guys would have used knifes or a bow and arrow. Guns aren't bad ...it's just a tool. Gun control is horse shit. Society needs to deal witht the deeper issues that cause kids to go to school and kill people. Guns cause violence like flys cause garbage.

[Grapes]

^ Spoken like a true Albertan!

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by Grapes

^ Spoken like a true Albertan!

Quoted for emphasis. Can you hear the banjo?

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Mangle

It's probably haunted by the fact Walmart still sells the guns that killed those kids.

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by Scarface

The GUNS didn't point themselves and pull the trigger. People with severe issues did. If guns didn't exist those guys would have used knifes or a bow and arrow.

I'd like to see high school kids try a killing spree with a bow and arrow. That'd be f*cking hilarious. It's pretty hard to shoot through desks with an arrow. How many rounds could you get off before someone tackled you? My guess is one. That's not much of a spree.

The basic questions remain:
A) Why make it as easy as possible for kids to go on killing sprees?
B) Why do people need semi-automatics and handguns? You don't hunt with those. Their only purpose as a "tool" is killing human beings, and for that they are quite effective.

If you think you need a gun just to exist on this planet, YOU ARE NOT FREE (the gun is a chain and you have no balls).
I own two 22 rifles, by the way. Good luck spreeing with those.

Originally Posted by 3507321C

Yeah, if only the Jews were all armed. That really would've turned things around. Genius. Nest you're gonna say that the Dali Lama could've fought off his exile if he just told his Buddhist buddies to take up arms. That just works so well. Castro is the man, by the way.

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Mangle

I'd like to see high school kids try a killing spree with a bow and arrow. That'd be f*cking hilarious. It's pretty hard to shoot through desks with an arrow. How many rounds could you get off before someone tackled you? My guess is one. That's not much of a spree.

The basic questions remain:
A) Why make it as easy as possible for kids to go on killing sprees?
B) Why do people need semi-automatics and handguns? You don't hunt with those. Their only purpose as a "tool" is killing human beings, and for that they are quite effective.

If you think you need a gun just to exist on this planet, YOU ARE NOT FREE (the gun is a chain and you have no balls).
I own two 22 rifles, by the way. Good luck spreeing with those.
Yeah, if only the Jews were all armed. That really would've turned things around. Genius. Castro is the man, by the way.

You're ignorance knows no limits.

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

You're ignorance knows no limits.

Nice argument. Way to go. I win.

[-evil-duerr-]

I hope Shaggy and Scoobs solve this spooky mystery.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by Mangle

Nice argument. Way to go. I win.

I think the point was very clear, a disarmed populace is a dictator's dream. Do you disagree?





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AND! Just this article, alone, about the memorial service, the ground-breaking for the Memorial, itself...
Think about aaaaaaaall that energy being focused on one place with one collective thought...
It's almost like a seance, en masse...

What can something like that DO to a place, and the collective conciousness of the people surrounding it?

Just curious about stuff like that.

Yeah I think you may be onto something here. Just to add a little more details to the points you made, in the university of ontario there was a study done between a group of about 4-5 parapsychologists who wanted to see if they could record the common paranormal phenomenon of creating a seance and having some table tipping occur.

Now this may seem to many who haven't experienced anything like this firsthand as being pretty fringe, but they did infact proove that thoughtforms themselves create this types of phenomenon. So this test involved creating a fake profile, they gave the fellow a name, a history, place of birth death and he was promptly placed into the land of hauntings, old country Britian, for good measure.

Now even though this character was totally fictional, they had received the same sort of contacts you could expect from a poltergiest. Conclusion: thoughtforms concentrated deeply enough are understood in the occult sciences as self aware spirits to some degree. I think this explains a great deal on why alot of religious beliefs hold no real historical or archeological proof, but miracles can still happen. It's all utilized from the power of suggestion and the subconcious. That being said, I believe there are spirits that pass on that truly may be contacting the living and vice-versa, however I would wager most of it is from self produced thoughtforms.

If you really want to dig deep on this, you may want to consider how much we in the west are surrounded by the symbolism of the Goddess Columbia. Who's the statue of liberty really? Why are we in British Columbia and why is the capital the US in the district of Columbia. Some people will say that I am just looking too deeply into the matter, all I will say is mass rituals are common all throughout history, draw whatever conclusions you want.

If you are interested in a collective conciousness impacting people surrounding areas of deep mental focus, study religious architecture. Anyone who doubts that there is science to back all this up probably knows little to nothing about remote viewing.

Annnnnnd I'm spent.

[gnosis]

^I read the report about that experiment involving the fake "ghost", and, yes, they still managed to achieve some paranormal phenomenon.

However, most often, focused energy is tapped into by "anything" hanging around, which then manifests itself in its own way.

But, I'm still interested in what the _students_ are thinking...

What are the stories they tell each other?
_Have_ any students experienced anything paranormal?
Is this just stuff that "dares" become the offshoot of....

Along those lines, I still wanna conduct a survey of people moving into the condos @ the old Woodlands asylum!

I'll give 'em a year...

Frosty
(always wondering)

[MC Hammered]

This is kind of related but a bit of a tanget.

When I was in Europe and we couldn't get on the night train to go from Switzerland to the Netherlands we had to piece together train ride which cuts right through Germany.

I remember looking out the window at around 4am and seeing the landscape in the twilight and imagining what the soldiers saw through their eyes.

I imagined just how much blood soaked the earth I was travelling over and when I looked at the land all I saw were leafless trees and nothing else. The energy of that place was very dark and I actually could 'feel' when we passed the boarder and entered the Netherlands.

So could there be ghosts? Could it be haunted? I believe so.

But then I believe in things that most people don't even think about.

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

I think the point was very clear, a disarmed populace is a dictator's dream. Do you disagree?

There's a dictator down south with the most armed populace in the world. He actually derives power from allowing his people to be armed. What good is weaponry if you never use it?

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by Scarface

The GUNS didn't point themselves and pull the trigger. People with severe issues did. If guns didn't exist those guys would have used knifes or a bow and arrow. Guns aren't bad ...it's just a tool. Gun control is horse shit. Society needs to deal witht the deeper issues that cause kids to go to school and kill people. Guns cause violence like flys cause garbage.

I can totaly agree. However the sole purpose of a gun is to kill. So why should the public be aloud to buy a gun unless they had a hunting licence or were a police officer? It just doesnt add up or make sence to me. If more ppl were deprived of guns then less ppl would feel the need to defend them selfs with one.

If the kids were attacing the school with knives or swords... it would be allot more easy to take the kids down. Anyone could admit they rather deal with some other kind of weapon then a gun or a bomb.

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by Scarface

The GUNS didn't point themselves and pull the trigger. People with severe issues did. If guns didn't exist those guys would have used knifes or a bow and arrow. Guns aren't bad ...it's just a tool. Gun control is horse shit. Society needs to deal witht the deeper issues that cause kids to go to school and kill people. Guns cause violence like flys cause garbage.

Hear hear!

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by Scarface

Gun control is horse shit. Society needs to deal witht the deeper issues that cause kids to go to school and kill people. Guns cause violence like flys cause garbage.

Deeper issues like the constant glorification of guns and the violence that can be caused by them. You're right that guns don't cause violence, but the only use for guns is violence. So what's the point in selling handguns and semi-automatics at Walmart? It's obviously not helping the violence problem.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by Mangle

There's a dictator down south with the most armed populace in the world. He actually derives power from allowing his people to be armed. What good is weaponry if you never use it?

You really don't seem to understand a certain principle of humanity...we fight to settle our differences. I don't like it one bit, but to simply lay down and expect big papa to take care of things is that slipery slope to a police state. You may not want to use your weapons, better off not using them, but there needs to be an established security within the populace so the people of the land can write the rule of law.

So yeah, there's a dictator (with a hand up his ass) down south with the most armed populace in the world, and murder rates are increasing. The media will continue to report on this until something must be done. Then ofcourse we will have gun control. Maybe next we'll be lucky enough to have cerfews like the do in NY. Meanwhile our police our training hitsquads in Haiti, Afganistan and giving storm troopers a run for their money:



It doesn't take a sheep to get a wolf, it takes a wolf to get a wolf.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by Mangle

Deeper issues like the constant glorification of guns and the violence that can be caused by them. You're right that guns don't cause violence, but the only use for guns is violence. So what's the point in selling handguns and semi-automatics at Walmart? It's obviously not helping the violence problem.

I used to enjoy a good message board debate. Really it's a waste of time though. You stated your opinion and backed it up. So I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with you. I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating my opinion.

[clearist]

i think the world is haunted

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by Scarface

I used to enjoy a good message board debate. Really it's a waste of time though. You stated your opinion and backed it up. So I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with you. I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating my opinion.

Fair enough. Respect.

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

You really don't seem to understand a certain principle of humanity...we fight to settle our differences. I don't like it one bit, but to simply lay down and expect big papa to take care of things is that slipery slope to a police state.

I just can't see how giving teenagers handguns and semi-automatics is going to avoid a police state. By all means, keep the hunting rifles, but everything else should go.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by Mangle

Fair enough. Respect.
I just can't see how giving teenagers handguns and semi-automatics is going to avoid a police state. By all means, keep the hunting rifles, but everything else should go.

You can't raise the nation there buddy. Giving teenagers handguns or semis is certainly not going to avoid a police state. It's a part of it. The next step is taking it away after there is enough managed chaos. You should study the rise of communism and facism in the last century perhaps for a better understanding of this.

Conflict is present in all aspects of nature, all the way down to the cellular level. I want that world to change to a more peaceful and symbiotic organism just as much as you man believe me. Though you err on the side of caution to be more empathetic, you lack the foresight of dealing with future conflicts.

Only unquestioning power can retain order. Power isn't a means, it's an end. Conflict will be embraced physically because the force we call evil needs to exist in the universe to create a balance.

I'd say a dismantling of the lack of morality that plagues the consumer culture in the amount of violence promoted in the news media, hollywood and the music industry is going to be what's necessary to create a more holistic and more peaceful society. This society could later deal with social issues like gang violence and domestic violence issues. Only after purging out terrorist elements from our world governments and creating enough self sustaining interconnected communities based on the MPC platform, then you may understand that you don't have to disarm the populace to make it more peaceful. Maybe getting rid of some nukes would be the better idea.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by kprojekt

The united states are fucked up... it's like this evil land of hate and despair sucking in everything it touches.

And when a tsunami or earthquake occurs..who provides the most aid?

Thank god the united states is the "world policing" super power. I wince when I think of a soviet world police...or a nazi germany world police. I understand that it's popular to criticize american policies, but please, take your nose out of John Stewart and Michael Moore's ass and think for yourself. I shudder to think of what this world would be like wIthout the united states. If you recall your grade 12 history class you'll remember that the united states had a policy of isolation from the world wars. They joined both and "saved the day" and ever since then they have been a cornerstone of democracy and human rights. I understand that there have been flaws and contradictions regarding american ideoligies(vietnam)...but quit being so arrogant about your species. Humans are violent and deceptive by nature. Consider America the lesser of the evils , and realise without America Canada wouldn't have sovereignty.