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Old Jun 26, 06
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i don't think this was a good trade.

i'm glad that bert is moving on, and i could give a shit less about allen, but why the hell did we trade auld? why didn't we unload cloutier? i think florida would have been happy with coult and it would have free'd up 2.5 million on our payroll.

on the other hand, when loundgo became a free agent in april, the first thing i thought was "ohh i hope vancouver pick him up for bert!" and i could be happier about that. but at the expense of a backup goalie that had 35 wins last season for a mediocre 18 point -1 defenceman and a 6th round draft pick? gimme a break!
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Old Jun 26, 06
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There is no way Keenan would have done this trade without Auld. Not because of talent issues, but more or less because of salary. That would almost be 10 mil locked up on 2 players .. Bert and Clouts...
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great trade!!

van finally has a bomb tender! and bert was not putting up the #'s.
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I think we did well, except for traning Allen, I don't think that was a wise decision but we were hurting for a goalie, although I think Cloutier should have gone before Auld.... should be an interesting season
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For starters it was definitely a case of Florida not wanting Cloutier or his salary. Auld is young, has a small price tag and has shown all kinds of upside plus he's only 25. As for Loungo for Bert it's pretty fair in the sense they are both on the last year of their contracts so neither team has any guarantee of having these players more than one season. For the Canucks getting a franchise goalie is HUGE and is the most important building block towards a cup. For Florida if Bertuzzi returns to form he will lead the team in scoring and will look pretty deadly next to Jokinen. At the end of the day though I don't think there is anyway that Florida would have straight up done Loungo for Bertuzzi so that's where Auld and Allen came into the mix. As for Lukas Krajicek I just read his scouting report and he has some potential. He's highly rated for his offensive ability and should be NHL ready this year or the next.
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bump... I love how after a week into the season people were ready to run Loungo out of town.
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Really stoked on landing Luongo.. anxious to see how he pans out.
Not anxious anymore!
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Old Mar 11, 07
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Thank goodness we got luongo on a long term deal. I think he has proven more than anythign he is one of the elite goalies.

Playoff's are still the real test.

Next question how many games and wins is luongo going to finish the regular season with.
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Yeah, there's a fair number of people eating their words in this thread here...
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There's a thread on CV that I keep bumping about Sidney Crosby being over hyped and over-rated.

Sid just broke the 100 point plateau..
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Pitts pretty much IS crosby if you think about it. Sure they got some good players now, but think to when there was no crosby = bottom feeders. Buddy has the ability to change around a whole game single handedly (while being an actual team player) Id never pick guys like Ovech to be MVP, individual talents can only get your team so far.
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Pittsburgh has the most potential right now of forming the next dynasty.
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Old Mar 13, 07
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Yep the core of the pens rite now is full of great players. Oh yea did I mention young players who will develop into better players.
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They've got Crosby, Malkin, and one of the Staals. But they badly need a goaltender.
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Old Mar 13, 07
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You forgot they also have a talented young defensemen named Ryan Whitney. They also have Gonchar. Both of these defensmen are realyl good offensive defensemen. I think whitney is better defensively than gonchar thoguh.

Ya I agree I don't think Fleury will cut it. But ya Crosby,Malkin, Jordan Staal, Ryan Whitney all solid young players.
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Old Mar 13, 07
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Yeah, there's a fair number of people eating their words in this thread here...
not me.......

i am happy with the way things turned out, but i still wish we could have kept auld. i think we might be 45-23-5 right now if we had kept him, but whatever. i am glad we got a top 3 goalie out of it and florida in the end didn't get shit!

hahahahahaha!
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You forgot they also have a talented young defensemen named Ryan Whitney. They also have Gonchar. Both of these defensmen are realyl good offensive defensemen. I think whitney is better defensively than gonchar thoguh.

Ya I agree I don't think Fleury will cut it. But ya Crosby,Malkin, Jordan Staal, Ryan Whitney all solid young players.
Fleury is a top rated 22 year old prospect. give him a chance... the jury is still out.
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Old Mar 14, 07
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And can they get one before they lose some players due to cap reasons.

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They've got Crosby, Malkin, and one of the Staals. But they badly need a goaltender.
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Old Mar 14, 07
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yeah, he was tossed into the hot seat at a pretty young age for a goalie.

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Old Mar 14, 07
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Fleury is a top rated 22 year old prospect. give him a chance... the jury is still out.
i agree.

fleury is still young. and consitering how he has been playing this season in comparison to any other year since he was drafted, he has come a long way and will improve futher as the years pass.

not every goalie can be like partick roy and be amazing right from the start. fleury is still finding his centre and as far as i'm concerned, he's doing great.

he'll be a top 5 goalie in 2 or more seasons.
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