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Jun 30, 06
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The post-interview wait.
So I had an interview for the Trainer position for MSN at work today. I think it went well, but there's two others in contention for the job.
Still haven't heard an official word but the boss hasn't left yet. They've told me I'm supposed to know today most likely, but it's NCO so that could really mean I'll hear next month. But I could still hear tonight. Fuck this is nerve-racking. This would be a promotion to $30k/year+bens, working on salary instead of hourly, would keep me out of the union (god I hate working for unions) and looks really nice on a resume. Anticipation... killing.... *sigh*... please get me off these phones... 
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Jun 30, 06
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haha!
be prepared for working OT...and not getting paid for it. thats the beauty of being put on salary,especially at NCO.
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Jun 30, 06
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you speak the truth. i work on salaray but lucky for me, my salary is more than that. and i love my job to the max. AND i have a second part time job that pays crazy well.
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Jun 30, 06
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Good luck Dave!!!
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Jul 01, 06
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When they ask you 'Do you have any questions' and you want the job you are supposed to confidently ask:
'When would you like me to start?' You pretty much know right then and their from their initial reaction if you got the job or not regardless of what they say. The best reply I got from firing that line out was 'How about Wednesday?' considering I was being interviewed on the Monday. Anyhow it's too late for that move so good luck and I hope you get the job.
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Jul 01, 06
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^if anyone did that during one of our interviews, not only would we not hire him but we would proceed to laugh at his expense all day. Mind you I work for an engineering firm where we hire based on skill set and that type of confidence generally isn't needed.
I can see how something like that for a position that involves working with customers might be a good trait though. good luck Dave
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Jul 01, 06
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I'm a career contractor and if you interview as much as I have I don't need to wait the 'wait' to hear if the company is interested or not as I just don't have the time.
That question has gotten a lot of positions and ended many an interview. There have been times where I stood up 2/3's through the interview and apologized for wasting their time as I don't think I wanted to work for them. The difference in mindset one has when walking into an interview changes everything. If you go into an interview confident the energy of how you speak comes across much differently compared to someone who is hoping they somehow luck out and get the job. I know my skillset, I know that I don't need to work for this company and I would be an assest to another firm and my references can back me up. Iif a firm like yours is closed minded enough to 'laugh at his expense all day' at someone for having such bravado then the work environment probably wouldn't have been right anyway.
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Jul 01, 06
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youre lucky! alot of people on salary AND contractors get the shaft from employers on the OT end of things.
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Jul 01, 06
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We aren't close minded we just don't care for cockyness, you can be as confident as you want but that doesn't get work done in our field. We choose our hire based on company fit and ability to solve difficult technical problems under pressure.
Any privately funded company who decides to waste money on hiring a guy based on his confidence level in an interview without interviewing anyone else will have a bunch of pissed of venture capatilists when the company goes under. There just insn't any room in a company like ours for people with an attitude like that. I've interviewed plenty and have only been turned down by one company. I had three separate job offers before I took this job and have contracting jobs waiting in the wings if I decide to leave where I'm at now and its all based on my technical ability. As I said, there are certain positions in sales and customer support that could use a someone like that but in my field all we care about is your ability to solve technical problems. Edit As far as our work environment, I guess it does suck. We've had world cup playing on one of our projectors everyday, we play soccer for a couple hours every friday, we have a a drum kit, guitars, PA system as well as a bunch of table games. Sometimes we go wakeboarding at lunch but in the winter time we rent out an ice surface every couple weeks to play hockey. Nevermind the fact that we have a full on machine shop where I've been able to work on my own personal projects. Different posistions need different types of people. Last edited by Leviathan; Jul 01, 06 at 11:20 AM.
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Jul 01, 06
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I totally agree with Winston.
I just got a fucking ridiculous offer from another retailer because they wanted ME, and not the other way around. But now I don't know what the hell to do because it is a stupid amount of money!
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Jul 01, 06
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Well I'm not in sales and was hired by many a company for my problem solving skills.
I'm not here to argue the issue as I'm not trying to ipmress you or get hired by your company. I'm just point out a tip that has helped me in the past and I think it will help someone get a job, if nothing else it will up their self esteem. I've done hiring for positions and I personally can't stand the meek minded people even though they have the skills. I'm not looking for lemmings, I'm looking for leaders and people that have the confidence to make a decision without having to get apporval every step of the way.
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Jul 01, 06
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^as I said different positions need different types of people. Just because they aren't cocky doesn't mean they don't have leadership skills or decision making ability. I have no problems in exuding confidence in my ability while not sounding so presumptuous to ask when I should start.
At anyrate I agree, there is no need to argue. I think every situation is different and the key to a good interview is to know your own strengths and weeknesses. Obviously one of your strenghts is to be able to come across extremely confident yet not too confident to be considered cocky. I'm not sure everyone can pull that off :) Edit again off topic, but are those OEM wheels? They are pretty sweet.
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Jul 01, 06
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I misread your first reply.
I'm looking for confidence and not cockiness. The latter doesn't work in any work environment. I will rephrase my suggestion... If you believe in yourself, think you deserve the position and had a killer interview then ask the question. If you knew you screwed up and mangled the interview then just walk away and try again. I didn't mean to say people should fire off that questions for the sake of asking it. And those aren't OEM wheels. I had the center caps customized with Audi inserts to make them look the say they do.
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Jul 01, 06
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If it was about money I would have left for Stream or Shaw ages ago. Anybody who works at NCO for the money is a fool. Sadly, there's a lot of those at NCO.
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Jul 01, 06
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Jul 01, 06
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i work crazy hours and get almost no days off (i'm on going into week 5 straight.) but if you're good then you're in demand and you get diffrent trainers offering you better paying jobs all the time. not many people can handle working from 5am until noon or 1pm every day when the work is tough if you don't love the animals or game like i do. it's certainly not a job you do for the money. because it's actually not worth the money.
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Jul 01, 06
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and impure i understand the magnitude of your line of work.My uncles owned horses for years and one of my best friends since kindergarten her dad is Jim Brown,you prolly know of him since he has horses at hastings park also.
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Jul 02, 06
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I'm actually somewhat invested in the work I do. I like what I do for a living and I want to continue to expand my career in helping people handle computers better. It's only start, but it's a better start than sitting around with my thumb up my ass working a retail job that never really will pay much better than $25k/year anyways. At least with NCO I get better money (as little more as it is, $10.25/hr is a lot better than $8/hr), respect on the workplace and opportunities to show my worth. And a lot of the work I've been doing within my department lately has been very different than just simply taking calls. Being paid $30k/year to repeat the same lessons over and over and essentially be a babysitter 8 hours a day? I can live with that.
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