to the boy who punched me out! - Page 5

Courtney · #**101** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

watscum your such a dork!

watscum · #**102** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by thecolorsunset
the law?

-The same law that has taken so long to figure out that same sax marriages are ok?

-the same law that ignored the missing women on the east side for so many years?

-the same law that enacts genocidal political warefare on the first nations in canada?

-the same law that allows people dying of aids to suffer a painful death with out halping them get weed which helps all around when they're on the cocktail?

-the same law that sends children to schools run as dictatorships, in a supposedly democratic society?

( this is fun)

so really since when did the law know more about my life and how to live it than I do, or she does?

now lets say they do, just because I'm feeling like having a stupid conversation with you, lets imagine that they figured out that 19 just so happens to be the right age to drink at. How did they do that? science? ancient scriptures? or did they just write down 19?

19 is simply the age of majority in BC, just as 18 is in ALberta and Quebec. Thus, by making the legal drinking age correspond to the age of majority, legal implications caused by alcohol consumption are met by the age of adulthood.

i.e. anyone who should be drinking will be held accountable as an adult under the Criminal Code for actions taken under the influence.

thecolorsunset · #**103** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by MissBehavior
Why did you bother with a diatribe?

You asked a stupid question, I gave you a stupid answer.

Now get over yourself.

exscuse me while I go get a dictionary.....

Main Entry: di·a·tribe
Pronunciation: 'dI-&-"trIb
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin diatriba, from Greek diatribE pastime, discourse, from diatribein to spend (time), wear away, from dia- + tribein to rub -- more at THROW
Date: 1581
1 archaic : a prolonged discourse
2 : a bitter and abusive speech or writing
3 : ironical or satirical criticism

...yeah but, shiiiiit

My name is keith and I have just been owned by Miss Behavior

watscum · #**104** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by Courtney
watscum your such a dork!

wrong homophone...

I think you mean "you're such a dork." :keebler:

Courtney · #**105** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

POINT PROVEN!

thecolorsunset · #**106** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by watscum

19 is simply the age of majority in BC, just as 18 is in ALberta and Quebec. Thus, by making the legal drinking age correspond to the age of majority, legal implications caused by alcohol consumption are met by the age of adulthood.

i.e. anyone who should be drinking will be held accountable as an adult under the Criminal Code for actions taken under the influence.

Magority shouldn't impose on anothers freedom(within license
i.e. thier actions do not impose on anothers freedom)

now this is getting silly because we're all nit picking our arguement(Or maybe I'm the only one) but I'd just like to clarify my point, government cannot dictate how one lives our lives. Officials, professionals and the likes know nothing more than each an every one of use know about the incredible complexities of life. If you are saying that the Canadian government has some how deduced a way of living with booze and drugs that is right, or some how edging at that notion, then I would say we are in disagreement. Is that what you two are saying?(Mssb. and Wat. ?)

thecolorsunset · #**107** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by watscum

wrong homophone...

I think you mean "you're such a dork." :keebler:

hehehe.... ouch...thats gonna leave a mark.

MissBehavior · #**108** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

:keebler:

MissBehavior · #**109** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by thecolorsunset
If you are saying that the Canadian government has some how deduced a way of living with booze and drugs that is right, or some how edging at that notion, then I would say we are in disagreement. Is that what you two are saying?(Mssb. and Wat. ?)

My point: Regardless of how they (the government) came to the age in the "age of majority", they came to it.

Do you really think (in MOST CASES) that anyone under the age of 19 is responsible enough to make an informed and logical decision about drugs and alcohol? That is all I'm saying.

If some 17 year old is going to go to a public event, drink irresponsibly, flail around irresponsibly and get into fights, they shouldn't be drinking, should they?

Admittedly, there are plenty of people OVER the age of 19 who flail and act irresponsibly while intoxicated, but as "adults" they are subject to harsher punishments for their actions.

SEAN! · #**110** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by thecolorsunset

And what determines when someone should drink? thier age? age doesn't mean shit all .Experience and lessons learned are some of the only true navigational tools for life that anyone truely listens to. A huge magority of people here are considered teenagers and they drink and do all sorts of drugs.

I drank young, smoked weed young, and did all sorts of drugs, all at an age that most people scoff at( now I see way more kids,way younger getting messed up) but now I've curbed my drinking habit and have learned to drink when
I want to, not when I need to. My drug habit is more like a comet you see in orbit every 6 months and I don't smoke weed like its a reflex anymore, in fact I smoke it when I want to not when its offered or near or "the perfect spot to roll a joint".

Now on the other side of the coin I stayed away from smoking all those years, thought It was stupid I did, but now I"m 20 and its still such a novelty that it's becomeing a habit of me, slowly and sneaky.

so I say live it out. live out what ever bad habit you have, drives you to change, listen to you mind and body, one or the other or both will usually show you what needs to go and what needs to stay.

rambled
K.

p.s. watscum, I hope that one day you have faith in your character and words, because your avatar makes me want to puke pitty chunks

you're still a fuckin hippy..reality called, they wanna know when you're gonna come back

Akeel · #**111** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by thecolorsunset

Magority shouldn't impose on anothers freedom(within license
i.e. thier actions do not impose on anothers freedom)

now this is getting silly because we're all nit picking our arguement(Or maybe I'm the only one) but I'd just like to clarify my point, government cannot dictate how one lives our lives. Officials, professionals and the likes know nothing more than each an every one of use know about the incredible complexities of life. If you are saying that the Canadian government has some how deduced a way of living with booze and drugs that is right, or some how edging at that notion, then I would say we are in disagreement. Is that what you two are saying?(Mssb. and Wat. ?)

sounds like someone just finished poli sci 101....

PREACH ON BROTHA!!!
but wait till your done school, mmm kay? thanx.

thecolorsunset · #**112** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

akeel

no I got came apon that sort idea while reading stuff like A.S. Neil's Summerhill, and Dumbing Us down by John Gatto< read that last one it's only 100 pages long and this guy tears apart the school system , and its all speach he read as he got his award for teacher of the year for NY state.

does poli sci eventually lead to classes that look at new forms of government, like think tank classes that look at possiblities and improvements? I'm guessing that wouldn't be first year stuff but when?

when I was painting (I'm painting a relative house) I started thinking over this thread, and it occured to me that I hadn't really looked at the contexted of the remark. I just jumped at the fact that ppl believed that the law should decree the age or if its ok for someone to drink. What I totally missed ( due to wanting spout my new found bit of knowlege, thanks MissB) was that this was a peer group saying that she should easy up or be more responsible with the booze. Now thats cool, and what I should have seen.

K.

MissBehavior · #**113** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

:keebler:

thecolorsunset · #**114** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by Sean!

you're still a fuckin hippy..reality called, they wanna know when you're gonna come back

awww he called me a hippy...thats so cute it reminds me of old men in flanel that are really really frustrated that life has passed them by so quickly.

hey sean....are you lonely?

hehehe

Akeel · #**115** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by thecolorsunset
akeel

no I got came apon that sort idea while reading stuff like A.S. Neil's Summerhill, and Dumbing Us down by John Gatto< read that last one it's only 100 pages long and this guy tears apart the school system , and its all speach he read as he got his award for teacher of the year for NY state.

does poli sci eventually lead to classes that look at new forms of government, like think tank classes that look at possiblities and improvements? I'm guessing that wouldn't be first year stuff but when?

Depends on what you really wanna learn. If educational system and methods of societal control interest you, read some stuff by Paulo Freire...from what i can tell you'd probably be most interested in philosophy...more importantly its summer time right now and i dont wanna think about school! :D

Akeel · #**116** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

BTW dont believe everything you read...reading some 100 page book isnt gonna solve all of the worlds problems...society's laws and rules exist for a reason, they were here long before you and they'll be here long after you're gone....now back to something fun...jeez wtf is this thread about anyway?

watscum · #**117** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

coloursunset: good on ya man. i guess you're not so bad after all :)

btw akeel- i think courtney was just about to post some nudies. hmmmm...

Akeel · #**118** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

there is no smilie to adequately display my emotional response to that.....well maybe this one... :sick:

**sNyx** · #**119** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

this is boring.

watscum · #**120** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by Akeel
there is no smilie to adequately display my emotional response to that.....well maybe this one... :sick:

hahahaha
ah shit :hehe:

thecolorsunset · #**121** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by Akeel
BTW dont believe everything you read...reading some 100 page book isnt gonna solve all of the worlds problems...society's laws and rules exist for a reason, they were here long before you and they'll be here long after you're gone....now back to something fun...jeez wtf is this thread about anyway?

I agree to a point.
what we really gotta do is yammer face to face for a while, over tons o' beer, and really hash this shit out.

but one last lame thing

-society's laws and rules exist for a reason, they were here long before you and they'll be here long after you're gone

But they have not, nor will they ever stay constant.

Akeel · #**122** (**permalink**) Jul 30, 03

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Originally posted by thecolorsunset

-society's laws and rules exist for a reason, they were here long before you and they'll be here long after you're gone

But they have not, nor will they ever stay constant.

I never said they were constant.

but i still disagree; laws do change and manifest themselves differently over time...just like how mary jane is reaching legalization now. Fundamental human beliefs are the basis for laws, for example killing someone has always been construed as wrong throughout the ages, the only thing that has changed is the punishment. Society dictates what it will condone and what it wont.

thecolorsunset · #**123** (**permalink**) Jul 31, 03

yup from here on in I will be talking shit.

LOOK shit is coming out of my mouth.

Akeel, I'll strike this conversation up again when I understand more or less more stuff.

(damn I'm ready to go back to school)

thecolorsunset · #**124** (**permalink**) Jul 31, 03

hmmmmm. I'm thinking about what you just said and I wonder about how private companies having the same rights as individuals, or about things like the huge disperportion of wealth in the world today. Or how public consent is manipulated by media, media owned by private companies w/ private interrests?
(yeah yeah I read a book by you know hoo)
I agree with your statement in theory(pfffffffffffffffft that sounds horrible) but shit still stands as this, money makes the world go round, not human morals or ethics, shit in government is corrupt and no one better to sum up this thought

Frank Zappa- "Politics are the entertainment sector of Industry"

no arguement here just a question

Akeel · #**125** (**permalink**) Jul 31, 03

i think you need to focus all your anarchist ideas into one topic.
first you start questioning governmental systems and how they have the right to impose laws on anyone, let alone a consenting majority.

Now your talking about how money rules supreme and human morality plays no consequence. Its human morality that creates this environment to begin with. What is right, what is wrong, etc. Why?
This then goes to what you believe about human nature. Are we just scavaging animals? Are we self-serving manipulative beings merely out for themselves? Or are we a product of our own environment?

come down to the drink tonite(thursday) for the answer to these and many other questions - like the meaning of life..how to achieve happiness and how to make 1 million dollars. So simple!