AverageCitizen/Silverwaters request of payment.

[Crazy Dave]

AverageCitizen/Silverwaters, I provided Sound and Lighting for Summer Breaks Saturday, Aug 10, 2002.

The total bill was $1250
You so far have paid $750
Still owing is $500

Customer agreed to supply transportation, gas for generator, some manual labor and turn tables.

I agreed to supply staffing for all tech with set-up and striking of equipment, setup and control of lighting, and the equipment list of:
PA 10,000w (8 Bass Bins 6Mid-High, 1 Monitor)
Lighting:
-4 Intelligent track lights
-2 Electress
-2 Pin Spots
6 Sets of Scaffolding
2 Generators.

I was paid in part before the show, and then give another part payment during the night of the event. Because of the poor attendance of the show the promoter did not have significant cash for full payment. So I offered the promoter if he paid quickly with in a few days, I would reduce the sum owing in half to only $250. Now two years, and a lot of phone calls made by me to the promoter of this event, nothing has been accomplished. I'm out money I directly invested in this show and capital needed to sustain business. I hope to post this message on public board to finally resolve this issue in professional manner.

Feel free to comment if you have any facts or information about this. Telling me I'm wrong because I might have miss spelled some thing, or any assumed issues of my personal life is childish and is not factual in this situation. And yes I have the right to request full payment from business no matter what.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dave

AverageCitizen/Silverwaters, I provided Sound and Lighting for Summer Breaks Saturday, Aug 10, 2002.

The total bill was $1250
You so far have paid $750
Still owing is $500

Customer agreed to supply transportation, gas for generator, some manual labor and turn tables.

I agreed to supply staffing for all tech with set-up and striking of equipment, setup and control of lighting, and the equipment list of:
PA 10,000w (8 Bass Bins 6Mid-High, 1 Monitor)
Lighting:
-4 Intelligent track lights
-2 Electress
-2 Pin Spots
6 Sets of Scaffolding
2 Generates.

I was paid in part before the show, and then give another part payment during the night of the event. Because of the poor attendance of the show the promoter did not have significant cash for full payment. So I offered the promoter if he paid quickly with in a few days, I would reduce the sum owing in half to only $250. Now two years, and a lot of phone calls made by me to the promoter of this event, nothing has been accomplished. I'm out money I directly invested in this show and capital needed to sustain business. I hope to post this message on public board to finally resolve this issue in professional manner.

Feel free to comment if you have any facts or information about this. Telling me I'm wrong because I might have miss spelled some thing, or any assumed issues of my personal life is childish and is not factual in this situation. And yes I have the right to request full payment from business no matter what.

do you have a written agreement? you should take him to court, if you dont then you've already lost

[Crazy Dave]

We have a verbal agreement. So court is not totally out, but it is grim. Mind you it's grim even with a contract. The costs of taking some one to court is too risky and you can end up losing more, plus a day's wage.

Public pressure, fact is all I have.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dave

We have a verbal agreement. So court is not totally out, but it is grim. Mind you it's grim even with a contract. The costs of taking some one to court is too risky and you can end up losing more, plus a day's wage.

Public pressure, fact is all I have.

it costs less then 50 bucks to file a claim in small claims court and you dont need a lawyer.

http://www.ag.gov.bc.ca/courts/civil...s_small_claims

[Crazy Dave]

thanks :)

[Crazy Dave]

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[Crazy Dave]

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[Séguin]

wow, 2 years behind. Pretty fucking stupid of them.

[C_squared]

you could have exercissed something called tact in this situation.

[.muffy.]

^ no kidding

[Average]

This is the stupidist thing ever if you all are so concerend about this shit why dont you ask the REAL sound tek for this show and he will tell you i owe nothing so SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Séguin]

^^ That seems a little suspicious. Why would you take such great offence if your not guilty?

[Hot Karl]

after 2 years of supposed non-payment, i'd say just about anything dave does would be fair game.

[MissBehavior]

Originally Posted by AverageCitizen

This is the stupidist thing ever if you all are so concerend about this shit why dont you ask the REAL sound tek for this show and he will tell you i owe nothing so SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow...THAT was a mature response.

[Average]

Originally Posted by Robb Peppertre

^^ That seems a little suspicious. Why would you take such great offence if your not guilty?

I dont take offence to this i think its a joke?????And im sick of reading about poor little dave none of you wher ther and dont know the half of it come to think of it you dont know any of it!!!

[Hot Karl]

Originally Posted by AverageCitizen

I dont take offence to this i think its a joke?????And im sick of reading about poor little dave none of you wher ther and dont know the half of it come to think of it you dont know any of it!!!

ok, why don't you tell your side of the story, without coming off as an idiot?

[Crazy Dave]

Originally Posted by C_squared

you could have exercissed something called tact in this situation.

Once again let me repeat I've been calling him for the past 2 years, and it's $500. He's nether once on the phone said he does not owe money. So what was I to do keep callling, keep having him say he has no money.

Now he's saying he does not owe me money, NOT because he's paid in full, NOT because I'm requesting an incorrect sum. No he's saying he does not owe money because I spelt some thing wrong, I'm a crack head, or I'm not a sound tech. You want to talk about not having tact.

Oh yea,,, if he's not happy about the first time, and is refusing to pay that's a totaly different issue then just not owing money. If the system for $1250 was not a good enough, then why did I get booked the second time. This story of his is not adding up dude. You want to talk about not having tact.

[Séguin]

Originally Posted by AverageCitizen

I dont take offence to this i think its a joke?????And im sick of reading about poor little dave none of you wher ther and dont know the half of it come to think of it you dont know any of it!!!

I donno man, to have to defent yourself means you have to have done timething wrong in the first place.

[Average]

Originally Posted by Robb Peppertre

I donno man, to have to defent yourself means you have to have done timething wrong in the first place.

LOL so cuz i deffend the rep of Silverwaters now iv done somthing wrong???wow you guys blow my mind if some guy was bashing your company im sure you would defend your self too!

And dave it wasent you who i booked for Rollin it was Ryan after seeing you smoke crack at Summer Breakz i decided not to ever book you again.

This will be the last time i respond to this the kids can belive whatever they want. Silverwaters puts on solid shows and thats IT!!!

[Crazy Dave]

Originally Posted by AverageCitizen

I dont take offence to this i think its a joke?????And im sick of reading about poor little dave none of you wher ther and dont know the half of it come to think of it you dont know any of it!!!

You don't get bitchy when you friend or people that are crew argue with me about specifics.. But yet these talking about how you are acting right now is some how moral incorrect to you?

So what is your 1/2. All you have to say for your self is insults, you don't even bother with facts.

What the fuck about poor Dave,,, Nothing about poor Dave. I don't want sympathy I want my money and I want people to know how you are acting. So they can choice to support people that act like that in the scene. I've keep things quite between us, you are just fucking around making excuses for yourself.

[cheebus420]

Why do you make these issues public? This forum has a "private messege" function last I checked.

[Séguin]

Originally Posted by AverageCitizen

LOL so cuz i deffend the rep of Silverwaters now iv done somthing wrong???wow you guys blow my mind if some guy was bashing your company im sure you would defend your self too!

And dave it wasent you who i booked for Rollin it was Ryan after seeing you smoke crack at Summer Breakz i decided not to ever book you again.

This will be the last time i respond to this the kids can belive whatever they want. Silverwaters puts on solid shows and thats IT!!!

That was weak.

[meth0dical]

^notice how the debt is 2 years old? read any of the posts? dave's said he has kept things quiet but hes choked, so he's making it public. maybe if you read a couple posts you wouldnt ask dumb questions.
(for cheebus)

[Séguin]

Originally Posted by meth0dical

^notice how the debt is 2 years old? read any of the posts? dave's said he has kept things quiet but hes choked, so he's making it public. maybe if you read a couple posts you wouldnt ask dumb questions.
(for cheebus)

Take it easy. That was posted the same time as Dave's post explaining that.

[meth0dical]

and dave's post about 30 mins before that explains it too. some people are just ignorant.