Teachers you hated or still hate....

[~god~]

Originally Posted by yoko*

Honestly, though I don't know this guy's teacher personally or his situation, I personally have also had some really bad experiences with highschool teachers. Teachers are human too, and thus include amazing people as well as assholes too.

There have been some teachers, particularly my Math 11 teacher Mr Lee, and my psych teacher Mr. Ruryk, who were both complete assholes to me and even years later, after graduating highschool, those who were in those classes with me agree that they were both pretty damn harsh to me in particular. I don't know whether it was because Mr. Ruryk was an idiot and didn't like the fact that I pointed out the many mistakes that he made while teaching the class the wrong things (though I wasn't the only one to point that out), or that maybe he just didn't like me, period.. but he was a total asshole to me. The argument that I was dumb or lazy in that particular class doesn't hold because it was an advanced placement psych class for university credits, I was actually doing well and he had no reason to dislike me for either of those reasons. No one else could offer a reason why he may have disliked me so much.

Then you should've stopped pointing out mistakes in class.
teachers are human too.
you hurt his feeling.

[~god~]

Originally Posted by wum

that's just ~god~ trying to get a rise out of you. he already made a thread about it :)

iono what you're talking about.
but your mom gets a rise out of me, everytime! :)

[spunsugar]

Originally Posted by wellbelove's

See heres another thing I realized... Alot of teachers dont really care how you act or what you do. But with a student who may display attidude or miss behaving... a teacher needs to punish you for it. Your teacher was probly seeing your future when your working at a job and sudently act that way at your boss.
Thats why I always explain what a student is "in trouble for" becuase I notice so many teachers just punishing there sturdents with out giveing a proper reason or the big picture.

* Quite truthfully all us daycare staff agree that the trouble makers are our favorites!!! They never thought so though lol

I was not a trouble maker. I had never been in trouble once before or after that. that year we had a split with one teacher one half of the year and then this one the last half. I had great marks and recieved glowing comments on my report cards about what a pleasure I was to have in the classrom. she used to tell me I would nevre amount to anything and that I was a horrible student.
if I got bad marks on a math quiz I would be forced to stand in front of the class and do the multplication table on the board twelve times before I was allowed to sit back down. this happened at least twice a week. I was always sent out out of the class crying and have to sit in the councillers office until she felt I deserved to come back in. I hardly think this was part of any big picture. just thinking about her now makes me feel like I'm back in that classroom, hoping she wouldn't call on me.

[MarcelM]

Originally Posted by ~god~

1) I respond to whatever post you initially posted. its not the first time someone bitches about teachers
2)I'm not saying that you're dumb in particular (although your spelling+grammar is not too impressive). I've been to school for as long as you have, and have heard students bitch and complain about teachers ALL THE GODDAMN TIME. but you know what? look at the smartest kids in the classes - they never disrespect the teachers, or give them a reason to hate them. You can act like you have never seen such cases, but that wouldn't make you very honest.
3) Travelling does not increase your IQ, and does not affect your organization skills.

My advice (like i said before): just accept the teachers as they are [since you have absolutely no say in the story]. Appreciate their point of view, and try to cope with it.
IF you decide that the teacher is completely out of the lines, then write a letter, get students to back you up, and take him/her to the office to file a report of some sort.

Dude I already got your point.
I was just mad at him and I decided I am going to tell him my opinion, but after I graduated. I will tell him I didn´t like his way of teaching and his classes were the most boring I have ever had and lots of my classmates think the same.
I dont know if it´s a good idea, but I decided to do so...

My grammar and spelling is bad ???? Ohhh, did you know English is my third language and I started studying it three years ago ?? I wold love to see your German or Italian grammar and spelling after you had been studying it for only 3 years at school.
And I didn´t just travel, I lived in Canada for 11 months. And where did I say travelling made me smarter.....

[MarcelM]

Originally Posted by ~god~

stop fucking bitching about teachers. all of you. do what they want, get your fucking mark, and leave.
fuck!

One more thing: We shouldn´t be studying just to get our fucking mark, we should be studying for ourselves, for our knowledge. Students should be happy to go to school, because they have a priority to get educated.
But it is not like this. Almost everyone hates going to school.... why ??

[yoko*]

Originally Posted by ~god~

Then you should've stopped pointing out mistakes in class.
teachers are human too.
you hurt his feeling.

Right, so students are supposed to stand there and listen to a teacher teach the WRONG thing to an AP class, while some students may be interpreting his mistakes and get a bad mark on exams because the teacher doesn't know what he's talking about? I don't think so.

Your "teachers are human too, you hurt his feeling" argument doesn't apply considering that you have never been a student of Mr. Ruryk, you don't know for a fact that his feelings were hurt, and because in my view a teacher should aim to teach a student the correct material rather than misunderstood material, and should appreciate any corrections to his mistakes. In the end it's the student that suffers for a teacher's mistakes that go uncorrected. So should a teacher discriminate against one student in particular because they're trying to be helpful towards him/the class?

Besides, I wasn't the only one to point out his mistakes, or the most frequent person to do so. If it was the fact that people were pointing out his mistakes that made him pick on students/be absolutely rude towards them (which is a stupid reason to pick on someone), then it wouldn't have been me that he would've picked on, but it obviously WAS.

[yoko*]

Originally Posted by ~god~

look at the smartest kids in the classes - they never disrespect the teachers, or give them a reason to hate them.

My advice (like i said before): just accept the teachers as they are [since you have absolutely no say in the story]. Appreciate their point of view, and try to cope with it.
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FYI, some of the smartest people I know were the most vocal, and I don't believe that one's highschool grades necessarily reflects one's potential. Smart doesn't always equal PASSIVE AND SHY and being passive and shy does not always equal being respectful. Just because someone "disrespects" a teacher by not being passive, doesn't mean that they are automatically incapable of succeeding in the class or learning the material as well as anyone else. Sucking up sure has improved my academic career, but that is merely strategy and doesn't make me any more capable of doing my work successfully than someone who doesn't suck up.

It's a really sad position to be in, when someone is so passive and accepting of the world order around them.

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marcelito..

As for how to cope, if you're barely passing History then I somehow don't think that it's merely just your teacher's dislike of you that's leading to a barely passing/poor mark. I can't conceive of a teacher giving you a fail mark simply because he dislikes you. In highschool in particular, there is usually only one straight-forward answer to each question and highschool history was, in my experience, mostly memorization and regurgitation. So if you're getting anywhere from 50%-55% then it probably has a lot to do with your study habits rather than your teacher hating you. This is my assumption, however.

I can see how at least 5% of your mark could be affected by a teacher's dislike for you, because teachers (being human) are often more lenient towards students they like. For example, if a consistently good student were to hand in an assignment 15minutes late it is likely that the teacher (dependent on who it is) might accept this one mishap and accept the students' assignment without deducting marks. However, on a separate occasion, if a student who consistently hands in their assignments late hands in an assignment late, it is more likely that the teacher would have expected the student to be impunctual and would not hesitate to deduct marks...

But, if you're reading the material, studying for exams, handing well-written assignments in on time, I can't quite see how a teacher could possibly get away with failing you out of his/her dislike for you. So my advice to you would be to have an open mind and do your best: study hard, attend every class, and complete and hand in all assignments on time. You don't have to "accept the teachers as they are [since you have absolutely no say in the story]. Appreciate their point of view, and try to cope with it" but don't do/say anything to him that might inhibit your learning/successful completion of the course.

[MarcelM]

Ok, may be I expressed my opinion in a wrong way and I am sorry about that.
I am passing the course, and even if I were to faill both of his classes ( history and philosophy ) I would stil pass the final government graduation exam.
It´s the way he teaches, he reads for the whole time, we can´t interact, just underline the stuff he tells us is important and write notes.... that´s all, every fucking class the same.... And I don´t like the way he treates me, but that´s the long story I was talking about, and it is personal.
In my thread, I was just asking you guys, how would you handle such a situation, where you are completely angry at your teacher and I was that angry I was almost gonna shout at him....
So please don´t keep telling stories about my marks and stuff, because it doesnt have anything to do with it.

[MarcelM]

Originally Posted by marcelito

But the thing is, he has a lot of power when it comes to my graduation, so I dont wanna mess everything up, because he could make me fail ( it´s
How would u handle this situation ???

And he could do that not because of my marks in the subjects.
We have a mark in Italy and it´s called behavior mark. Our scale goes from 1 to 10. If you get a 7 in behavior, you fail, and you can have all tens in the other subjects. That´s the point. ( 5 is negative, 6 is positive )
It´s this fucking behavior mark that made me sit quiet and angry in my chair.... imagining what I could do....
Gonna go for lunch now. Have a good day everyone

[thebobman]

Say Terrance, do you remeber than PE Teacher from Grade 8?
I sure do Phillip! What an Asshole *FART*
DA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Oh Terrance, you're such a Uncle Fucker!