Do you take 5-HTP ?

[radha]

i had a good sleep after taking 5htp, valerian and some herbal insomnia formula last night.

[cubed]

^any chance in getting you to take some of this?

[Toxxin Ephekt]

I dont do drugs, there for I dont take 5 HTP.


Edit. Find them at any GNC or Vitamin shop.

[Vitamin-X]

Originally Posted by j3rk

i take htp-5 when i want a really good nights sleep. I find i usually wake up pretty refreshed.

Also my friend swears by HTP-5 & Weed. There are some interesting trip experiences on erowid with that combo.

Smoking weed produces a lot of Melatonin.
Melatonin and 5-htp used together is probably the best
non prescription sleep combo going.
Of course if you don't want to smoke weed you could just
get Melatonin pills (cost about 7 bucks for a bottle).

[rustybob]

^^

I actually find 5-HTP and melatonin to be one fucked up combo. In short, it doesn't work.

Here's what's fucked up: every time I've done that, I get zero sleep. Zero. You'd think it'd be a great combo, but it's not. But what's even more fucked up is that the next day it feels like a got a half-decent sleep. Melatonin rocks on its own, especially if, say, your work schedule changes.

[lildonkey]

What i find helps me sleep is throwing rocks at the elderly from my friends balcony on the 21st floor.

[riddla]

oh yes the famous 5HTP's...

welp i dont pop e's anymore, but i did a ton of research on this stuff back a few years ago when i throwin pills around like there was no tommorow...

from what i remember, correct me if im wrong:

MDMA (Pure "E", doubtful this is all thats in your pills but...) gives you that awesome feeling by causing your brain to dump massive amounts of serotonin(spelling?) on your serotonin recepetors...

note: serotonin = natural high, eg: i take a sheit (amongs other things), i feel good, completly naturally ;)

most of us know the above...

but the problem is when you do e, the e you pop back will cause your brain to completely depleat your serotonin reserves. once this happens, and your still high, what will happen is your brain will start to bombard your serotonin receptors with dopamine.

this casuses your serotonin receptors to burn out, altho im sure massive bombardments of serotonin do the same... quite simply... BRAIN DAMAGE!

thats why when we (close friends and i...) used to pop we ALWAYS preloaded with them 5HTPs... to prevent the serotonin depletion, dopamine bombardment.

sorry bout the spelling and all, correct me if any of my facts are wrong.


hope this helps,

tomek.

[esoter1c]

+1 for bombarding us with the word bombardment.

[riddla]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

+1 for bombarding us with the word bombardment.

lol... its late, im tired...

as long as y'all get the point.

nite.

[anewlife]

no thx @ 5-HTP

[matéo]

any body recomend a doasge or brand?

some come in 50mgs some 200???

[crackdragon]

I take the herbal select 50mg pills from time to time... I find 1 cap does me just fine. Anything more and then I am groggy as hell for the rest of the day. Taking more, then I would recommend doing so before bed (and be prepared for some crazy dreams)

[matéo]

werd.

[Zêus]

Originally Posted by shebavpg

^^ Thanks! I am going to go check this out.

And take them before bed I am ausuming is best?

With something high in sucrose like orange juice. It helps transfer the blood brain barrier easier.

[esoter1c]

I take 1 5-htp once a week now.

Melatonin every other night.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by riddla

note: serotonin = natural high, eg: i take a sheit (amongs other things), i feel good, completly naturally ;)

Okay, you're along the right track but you're confused.

Serotonin is a neurotransmitter. It's a means of communication between cells, and serotonin is one that handles a lot of your emotional state, and is affected by sleep patterns (hence why if you don't get enough sleep, you get grumpy).

When you take amphetamines, what you're doing is triggering your nerves to release serotonin across the space between nerve cells (called the synapse). The serotonin stimulates other cells causing them to fire. The cells that are stimulated by serotonin are the pleasure centres of your brain, thus causing the euphoric feeling you get on E.

5-htp does nothing to replenish serotonin. The amount of serotonin in your brain stays generally the same.. What 5-htp helps do is get the serotonin to go back to the pre-synaptic membrane (there's a big phrase) so that it's ready to fire the serotonin again the next time your brain is ready to feel pleasure.

So don't think of it like draining and refilling. It's more like firing a crossbow, going over and picking up your arrow and reloading.

[jenai]

Lemme tell ya about a story about 5-htp and similar health food supplements: i tried it but found being mellow and sleeping well for 8+ hours) to be boring.

i'd also tried GABA, glycine, magnesium and roseroot in a herbal mixture but just felt alert and "normal".

but i avoid caffeinated products like energy drinks, teas and even coffee because the last time i drank espresso after a night of boozing with friends, i just went psychotic ie talking incessently until told to shut up, arguing with the buddy who told me to shut up and finally punching him.

but then he's a booze and chemicals addict and was wasted on booze, various stimulants related to ephedrine, some shrooms, LSD and even weed, which we all had shared before going into Esquires that night, so he was probably jealous I could out-yell him.

after the cops came and carted both us away for "public disturbance" - we both avoided jail time because once we were busted, we looked after each other. VPD jail is no horror show, but it sobered us up quick.

since then, because my buddy is more of a drugtard than i, and my bad experience with caffeine mixed with a couple puffs of weed and half a JD, i avoid caffeine as much as possible.

instead, i like the dull and boring stuff that makes most people calm because then people stop noticing you and don't get in your way.

5-HTP is like that. for most people it does nothing out of the ordinary, but your life will change for the better on the long run.

sure you will be more boring than my buddy, who now lives on the streets due to the fact that ephedra is another name for really bad methamphetamine and related nasty stuff.

but the fun of having patience will allow you to try to help out your party buddies who suddenly lose their minds and to help them slowly recover it.

kudoes to 5 hydroxytryptamine, rhodiola rosea and all the ginsengs as caffeine substitutes, tyrosine to help maintain my dopamine, noradrenalin and adrenalin levels & keep my metabolism honest with the thyroid, methionine to keep my spirits up so I don't need SSRIs, various amino acid shakes to keep my abs trim, and other health foods i won't mention cos they'll bore y'all to death!

[FireWire]

^ You really like the 5-HTP eh?


I was thinking of getting some the other day though... but haven't been able to come up with enough reasons at the time to get it. I sleep fine, I eat fine...

*shrugs*


For anyone taking it though - I read in a book called 'The Food Connection'... that you are supposed to take it only 1 or 2 times a week (no more), a 50mg capsule (break it and place the powder under your tongue) with a plain piece of white bread - an hour before bed. (Cause taking it on a daily basis apparently raises the serotonin levels in your blood to a very high level - which is why some people feel high from it - which can eventually lead to heart valve damage in the long run...)

[5-htp]

i've been taking 5-htp since 2004 on a regular basis. i also take 20 other different vitamins. im an uppers freak. love to be high all the time;) and doesnt my name tell it all?

[jenai]

my new uppers are rhodiola with cordyceps and l-methionine.

the most boring of experiences tho.

[ebbomega]

5-htp is not an upper.

[Drazkers]

I used to to take it after parties, never before. Haven't needed it for over a year tho.

[zarlon]

fuck. that. shit.