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Old Apr 26, 04
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^ What about my JLo booty?
Are you saying I've got no ass?
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Old Apr 26, 04
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^ I've never looked at it before.
I'll comment on it the next time I see you.
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Old Apr 26, 04
Don't Believe The Hype
 
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Suicide how ever is a choice. Yes, your mental stability will have some factor in on your thought patterns, but in the end it is only you who can decide if you wanted to end your own life.
Mental instability makes people irrational and unable to make sound decisons, therefore that choice is non-existant.
People don't chose to be depressed to the point where they can't function properly.
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Old Apr 26, 04
Don't Believe The Hype
 
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Today, yes, those statistics are very true. But what have we been doing differently all of a sudden to cause every one out of seven teenagers to seriously consider suicide? Not something right obviously which brings me back to my point that we all have to be strong, and not go off the deep end so easily about things that may or may not be fixable/true. "To believe in ones self, is to believe in life."
It's not just teenagers, though. Old people are killing themselves at an alarming rate as well.
Why are more people deciding to kill themselves?
It's probably a combination of a bunch of factors.
Stress is probably a huge factor.
People don't have adequate coping mechanisms to help them through stressful times.
Drugs.
Alcohol.
The Bush administration.
People don't have extended family around all the time anymore to help them cope with daily shit.
It's harder to support and raise a family on one income, so single income homes are declining.
Latchkey children of the 70s and 80s are raising more latchkey children.
Television is babysitting said children.
Blah, blah, blah.
The world's going to shit.
The point is, you can't just tell someone to suck it up and deal. It's not as easy as that.

Here's my cheesy quote quota:

"A tendency to melancholy....let it be observed, is a misfortune, not a fault."

" I am now the most miserable man living. If what I feel were equally distributed to the whole human family, there would not be one cheerful face on the earth. Whether I shall ever be better I can not tell; I awfully forebode I shall not. To remain as I am is impossible; I must die or be better, it appears to me. "


Both quotes are by Abraham Lincoln, probably the most famous sufferer of depression.

Back to the suicide thing, even he considered it.
Here's a quote from someone who worked with him in the Illinois legislature

"In a conversation with him about that time (1836), he told me that although he appeared to enjoy life rapturously, still he was the victim of terrible melancholy. He sought company, and indulged in fun and hilarity without restraint, or stint as to time. Still when by himself, he told me that he was so overcome with mental depression, that he never dare carry a knife in his pocket. As long as I was intimately acquainted with him, previous to the commencement of the practice of the law, he never carried a pocket knife, still he was not a misanthropic. He was kind and tender in his treatment to others."
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Old Apr 26, 04
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diva sense u seem to know alot about it.. ive had extreme mood phases for the last few years.. sometimes can last half a day, days, weeks, months... and all are really extreme, or sometimes i feel really neutral... good this be bi-polar disorder?
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Old Apr 26, 04
dumb it down, would ya?
 
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I waved good bye and shed a single tear for you crooked *sniff*
the wave was for rhianna and the single tear was for me :)
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Old Apr 26, 04
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diva sense u seem to know alot about it.. ive had extreme mood phases for the last few years.. sometimes can last half a day, days, weeks, months... and all are really extreme, or sometimes i feel really neutral... good this be bi-polar disorder?
Haven't you learned anything from this thread? Don't ask me, go see a professional about it.
Best of luck to you.
=)
Click on the NIMH link on the previous page. Lots of info there.
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Old Apr 26, 04
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People with bipolar disorder don't have to experience elated stages at all. The manic/mania stage can take the form of intense and uncontrollable anger.
And yes, people who suffer from the condition can also have rapidly cycling moods...although most manic phases tend to last for day-weeks. I think the DSM-IV calls this something else though..bipolar II or something.
bipolar II is when you go through periods of hypomania and major depression.

I believe one of the criterium for a hypomanic episode consists of at least 4 days of extremely persistent, elevated and irritable mood.

--Joanne :P
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Old Apr 26, 04
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^ I think it's if the mood is irritable it has to persist for 4 days, and if it's elevated, it has to persist for 3 days....or some crap like that to be technically diagnosed as that.
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Old Apr 27, 04
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^ I think it's if the mood is irritable it has to persist for 4 days, and if it's elevated, it has to persist for 3 days....or some crap like that to be technically diagnosed as that.
from what a know, a hypomanic episode is elevated OR irritable moods for at least 4 days and a full blow manic episode is at least one week of elevated or irritable moods. if I'm not mistaken, don't the elevated and irritable moods usually go together?

http://www.psychologynet.org/bipolar2.html
http://www.psychologynet.org/dsm.html

anyway, this is another very good site I recommend for people who think they might be mentally ill. this of course should not be replaced by a professional diagnoses, but this site's got stuff from the diagnostic statistical manual of mental disorders IV which is published by the american psychiatric association and used to help diagnosed patients by professionals.

--Joanne :P

PS: Esi, I STILL HAVE YOUR BOOK IN MINT CONDITION!
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Old Apr 27, 04
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from what a know, a hypomanic episode is elevated OR irritable moods for at least 4 days and a full blow manic episode is at least one week of elevated or irritable moods. if I'm not mistaken, don't the elevated and irritable moods usually go together?
I think you're right about the number of days.

Elevated moods and irritable moods don't go together. An elevated mood is usually when the patient thinks they're on top of the world and can do anything. It's characterized by them sleeping a lot less because they have all this intense energy and think they can do everything. This is usually the stage where people with bipolar disorder go one huge spending sprees and start crazy projects that they'll never finish.

When someone with bipolar disorder has an irritable mood, they're set off by anything. Like, they really go off for no reason at all, and when they do go off, very little can be done to calm them down. They feel intense and uncontrollable anger and can sometimes get violent.

Some patients never experience really elevated moods, just extremely irritable ones.

elevated mood-extreme elation
irritable mood-extreme anger

Both are characterized by an overabundance of energy, though.

We should make plans to meet and talk about nursing and stuff. I promise not to sell you out next time.
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diva sense u seem to know alot about it.. ive had extreme mood phases for the last few years.. sometimes can last half a day, days, weeks, months... and all are really extreme, or sometimes i feel really neutral... good this be bi-polar disorder?
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Diva, you seem to know a lot about this psychology stuff.

Lately I've been masturbating 3+ times daily. Is it possible I have ADHD?
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Old Apr 27, 04
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YOU'RE HORNY ASSHOLE!

go think of martys mom/dad (whichever floats yer boat...they're both hot), give it a couple of jerks, then come back to posting.
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Old Apr 27, 04
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I think you're right about the number of days.

Elevated moods and irritable moods don't go together. An elevated mood is usually when the patient thinks they're on top of the world and can do anything. It's characterized by them sleeping a lot less because they have all this intense energy and think they can do everything. This is usually the stage where people with bipolar disorder go one huge spending sprees and start crazy projects that they'll never finish.

When someone with bipolar disorder has an irritable mood, they're set off by anything. Like, they really go off for no reason at all, and when they do go off, very little can be done to calm them down. They feel intense and uncontrollable anger and can sometimes get violent.

Some patients never experience really elevated moods, just extremely irritable ones.

elevated mood-extreme elation
irritable mood-extreme anger

Both are characterized by an overabundance of energy, though.
I know what elevated and irritable moods are, but just from my understanding, the state of mania is usually accompanied by irritability, ie. people who attempt to curb off their momentum will be quick to piss them off.

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We should make plans to meet and talk about nursing and stuff. I promise not to sell you out next time.
yes definitely!! btw, I might have my consolidated practice experience at st. paul's (that's where you'll be this summer too right?). my placement has not been made yet because it won't start until july. anyway... if that is where I'll be, I'll be there monday, tuesday and wednesdays. what about you?

--Joanne :P
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Old Apr 27, 04
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you might want to ask your doctor about this one too:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/bpd.cfm
Borderline Personality Disorder.
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