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Old May 12, 04
BOOSH
 
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Love Hurts (limerence for beginners)

Do you get whipped? Fall in love too fast and hard? You might find the subject of limerence interesting to explain why you feel the way you do....

Source: from Love and Limerence: the Experience of Being in Love by Dorothy Tennov

The limerent reaction (referring to the state of being "in love") begins, usually at a point discernible at the time and later recalled. Sexual attraction as such need not be experienced, although (a) the person is someone you view as a possible sexual partner, and (b) the initial "admiration" may be, or seem to be, primarily physical attraction.

Once limerence begins, you find yourself thinking about the LO (the Limerent Other: the current love object) and receiving considerable pleasure in the process. There is an initial phase in which you feel buoyant, elated, and, ironically, for this appears to be the beginning of an essentially involuntary process, free. Free not only from the usual restraints of gravity, but emotionally unburdened. You may be attracted to more than one potential LO. You feel that your response is a result of LO’s fine qualities.

With evidence of reciprocation from LO, you enjoy a state of extreme pleasure, even euphoria. Your thoughts are mainly occupied with considering and reconsidering what you may find attractive in LO, replaying whatever events may have thus far transpired between you and LO, and appreciating qualities in yourself which you perceive as possibly having sparked interest in you on the part of LO. (It is at this point in West Side Story that Maria, the contemporary Juliet, sings I Feel Pretty.)

Your degree of involvement increases if obstacles are externally imposed or if you doubt LO’s feelings for you. Only if LO were to be revealed as highly undesirable might your limerence subside. Usually, with some degree of doubt its intensity rises further, and you reach the stage at which the reaction is virtually impossible to dislodge, either by your own act of will, or by further evidence of LO’s undesirable qualities. This is what Stendhal called crystallisation. The doubt and increased intensity of limerence undermine your former satisfaction with yourself. You acquire new clothes, change your hairstyle, and are receptive to any suggestion by which you might increase your own desirability in LO’s eyes. You are inordinately fearful of rejection.

With increases in doubt interspersed with reason to hope that reciprocation may indeed occur, everything becomes intensified, especially your preoccupation with percentages. At 100% you are mooning about, in either a joyful or a despairing state, preferring your fantasies to virtually any other activity unless it is (a) acting in ways that you believe will help you attain your limerent objective, such as beautifying yourself and, therefore increasing the probability that you will impress LO favourably during your interaction, or (b) actually being in the presence of LO. Your motivation to attain a “relationship” (mating, or pair bond) continues to intensify so long as a “proper” mix of hope and uncertainty exist.

At any point in the process, if you perceive reciprocation, your degree of involvement ceases to rise — until, of course, you become uncertain again. The timid partners may attempt to conceal from each other the full nature of the reaction that has seized them, preventing full reciprocation in each other’s eyes and allowing the intensity to increase.
To summarise, these things are needed:

A person who meets your criteria for an LO. (The basic requisites appear to vary, and not always represent what you might consciously define as your criteria. On the other hand, the similarity between limerents and LOs with respect to broad categories of gender, age, socioeconomic status, educational level, ethnicity, et cetera, suggests that criteria exist.)
A sign of hope that the person might reciprocate.
Uncertainty.

For those who wish a cure, the most certain course is prevention. Once you are in its grips your emotions are directed by the external situation, and the only effective action open to you is destruction of any opportunity for reciprocation to occur.

Limerence for a particular LO does cease under one of the following conditions: consummation - in which the bliss of reciprocation is gradually either blended into a lasting love or replaced by less positive feelings; starvation - in which even limerent sensitivity to signs of hope is useless against the onslaught of evidence that LO does not return the limerence; transformation - in which limerence is transferred to a new LO.

Source: from Love and Limerence: the Experience of Being in Love by Dorothy Tennov


its a long read but it helps at least give a name to an insiduous condition.....without limerence there would be no emo
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Old May 12, 04
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very true... thx.. that kinda heled me out..
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Old May 12, 04
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soma will become famous soon enough
well said
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Old May 12, 04
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Erin is a jewel in the roughErin is a jewel in the roughErin is a jewel in the roughErin is a jewel in the roughErin is a jewel in the rough
I don't believe in love anymore.
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Old May 12, 04
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^ Im with you.
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Old May 12, 04
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interesting read
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Old May 12, 04
Static/COQ/DA/Exhale WUT?
 
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Love is a Mask that blinds you from reality.
Love is not worth the troubles and pain.
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Old May 12, 04
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Out of topic...

Haha paroxysm from ED?
I drew you a picture once a long time ago. :O
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Old May 14, 04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaara
Out of topic...

Haha paroxysm from ED?
I drew you a picture once a long time ago. :O
yes, you did.
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Old May 14, 04
The Art of Vox
 
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wouldn't the best way to avoid enternal conflict between yourself and your L.O. would be to be honest with them?
tell them how you feel?
dont play head games and stop all the mental and emotional b.s., get to the point and start from there.
too many problems are spwaned when people dont speak from the heart.
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Old May 14, 04
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But most LOs are unattainable, far more fun to let yourself be infatuated and pursue than to be frank.
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Old May 14, 04
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cinist is a jewel in the roughcinist is a jewel in the roughcinist is a jewel in the roughcinist is a jewel in the roughcinist is a jewel in the rough
love is gay
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Old May 14, 04
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Dj G-Style has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Something smart and interesting posted on FNK.
G
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Old May 14, 04
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love is stupid, im not going to bother
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Old May 14, 04
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^ * hug*
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Old May 26, 04
The Art of Vox
 
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it all goes to shit anyways.
Heart break | Love
9 .............. | 0
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Old May 27, 04
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oh man, that's deep shit when teenagers wax philosphical on love.
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Old May 27, 04
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it's all true, karl stopped returning my calls and it just made me want him more.

why won't you return my calls???
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Old May 27, 04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel
wouldn't the best way to avoid enternal conflict between yourself and your L.O. would be to be honest with them?
tell them how you feel?
dont play head games and stop all the mental and emotional b.s., get to the point and start from there.
too many problems are spwaned when people dont speak from the heart.
I 100% AGREE.... fuck people and hiding their emotions... the feelings always come out after you realise that its too late...
too much drama caused by not being honest... sometimes you dig yourself too deep trying to get to know them...and then youre stuck with a friend..and then saying you have something more for them will be controversial.
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Old May 27, 04
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Bitchin will become famous soon enoughBitchin will become famous soon enough
Long time no see, Matt.
Interesting Read.



Erin, are you devorcing me?
YOU JUST TOLD ME I'M THE BEST WIFE!!!
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Old May 27, 04
Die Try'N
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Willis is on a distinguished road
I beleive in love i have been there and it hurts and still does sometimes i wonder if it will efer go away or if i will fell the same way again?
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Old May 28, 04
RIGOR VIDA
 
Join Date: May 2003
Magi is on a distinguished road
that totally relates to me at this point in time


a nice read
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Old May 28, 04
TAKE me HOME
 
Join Date: May 2004
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ah ....limerence, *sigh* it sucks
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Old May 29, 04
~FuK ^ DavÊ~
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin
I don't believe in love anymore.
agreed
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