Doesn't global warming scare you?

[booshka]

Doesn’t it scare anyone that rainy weather in august is normal, but for the past few years it hasn’t been. How can an area’s weather change so drastically in such little time? Doesn’t it scare you that because of the weather migratory birds fly farther north/south then they once did? Doesn’t it disturb anyone that people litter, and use energy with no cause for these problems? Doesn’t it disturb you that you can be so apathetic about these issues and assume someone else will clean up after your mess?

[krisamata]

it bothers me

but unforunately its so completely out of control...so i dont dwell on it, i dont think about it,....

and unfortunately too many people have this same thought...so theres no way to stop it

[Rhianna]

This has nothing to do w/ what your talking about Miss Nina but.............

are you back yet? I talked to Claire today and she wants to have lunch w/ all of us so she can show us her baby. When are you coming back!!!!!!!!!

[Silverwinged]

These things worry me enough that I do my part to keep energy usage down, littering to a minimum ect ect.
It worries me more that it seems that for every person who cares, there are 1000 people who couldn't care less.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by booshka

Doesn’t it scare anyone that rainy weather in august is normal, but for the past few years it hasn’t been. How can an area’s weather change so drastically in such little time? Doesn’t it scare you that because of the weather migratory birds fly farther north/south then they once did? Doesn’t it disturb anyone that people litter, and use energy with no cause for these problems? Doesn’t it disturb you that you can be so apathetic about these issues and assume someone else will clean up after your mess?

nope..we (the human race) are not ment to be on this planet forever, its hubrisitc to think that we are.

besides these trends have only persisted for 5 years, which is a blink of an eye in terms of the earth's weather systems.

besides i have confidence in the fact that things will change, just look at the increase in fuel prices, further increases will serve as a catalyst to implement existing cleaner technolgies.

[booshka]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

nope..we (the human race) are not ment to be on this planet forever, its hubrisitc to think that we are.

besides these trends have only persisted for 5 years, which is a blink of an eye in terms of the earth's weather systems.

besides i have confidence in the fact that things will change, just look at the increase in fuel prices, further increases will serve as a catalyst to implement existing cleaner technolgies.

I think that's a very convenient prediction of our future. I hope you're right, but I doubt you are.

the weather systems have changed drastically in the last five years, that should be concern enough for any inhabitant. For years we haven't been witness to such a drastic global change. And now there's a huge fucking hole in the ozone, that if it gets any bigger will kill the very foot that we stand on (in terms of the food chain)......not to mention other pollutants that are causing the green house effect.......This is not something easily repaired.

[bungoshlung]

think of it this way, we'll all be dead before suffering the wrath of the earth eating itself. enjoy life while it lasts :)

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by booshka

I think that's a very convenient prediction of our future. I hope you're right, but I doubt you are.

the weather systems have changed drastically in the last five years, that should be concern enough for any inhabitant. For years we haven't been witness to such a drastic global change. And now there's a huge fucking hole in the ozone, that if it gets any bigger will kill the very foot that we stand on (in terms of the food chain)......not to mention other pollutants that are causing the green house effect.......This is not something easily repaired.

ITS ONLY BEEN FIVE YEARS!..alot of scientists are still unsure as to the cause. the earths weather systems are incredibly dynamic, it has never been the same in the history of the planet. even massive deviations from the previous conditions, which last for a period of five years or even 50,000 is to be expected.

this planet has gonna through multiple periods of widespred claciation and then a reversal into much warmer times, sooner or later its gonna happen again, its rediciulus to assume that the climate wont change because the past history of our planet has shown otherwise.

im not gonna deny the fact that dumping billions of tonnes of extraneous carbon into the carbon cycle, is gonna have an affect, but the fact we are doing it is rather moot since the climate is gonna change anyway.

Im more worried about what im gonna eat for lunch then global warming, but i guess some people need something to worry about.


hell 10,000 years ago the place we are now sitting was covered by a 2km thick sheet of ice

[mugsy]

gotta agree with homeboy sean on this one.
grade 9 and 10 i was all over global warming, then i took geography and human geography and what little we touched on the subject (we talked alot about it but hey, it was highschool) i came out with the understanding that this is just all natural.
quite frankly i worry more about violence than pollution.

[DiamondDash2k]

im glad to know that there are some educated ravers out there.. btw good luck with the E.

[mapleleaf4ever]

heh heh heh I assist with Global Warming every day I work. Planes burn sooooo much fuel...

[C_squared]

i was on the roof of my building last week smoking a spliff, trying to get some sun, admiring the killer view. i would definetely say that there wasn't a cloud in the sky, but it wasnt clear skies, either.

as i looked towards Van all i could see a brown haze of smog floating above the city. the same thing, as i turned around and looked towards Washington, but even worse! i couldnt even see mt. Baker it was so bad! the view was not that smoggy last year when i first moved into the building, and i go up on my roof quite often. it's a visible change in the atmosphere and that is scarry!

the smog varies from day to day... so i do see Baker most of the time. there should be a weather forecast for how bad the air/smog is going to be that day.

one trend that has increased in recent years is the number of people with asthma. you're not just born with asthma anymore, you can actualy develop it! if you dont believe me, then talk to jerome, one of the barkeeps @ the Lotus, just developed astha from working in such a smoky environment. think of the Lotus as being a macrocosm and us developing illnesses from our enviornment. the amount of people developing lung desease from breathing in our air wont be signifigant at this point, however in the future things may change for better or worse. (maybe it's erelivant, i dunno)

the truth of the matter is that we are consumming all of our natural resources, but it will also be hundreds or maybe thousands of years before the world completely runs out of everything. thats if we humans dont blow ourselves up before that time anyways.

[Rytalin]

Global warming is such bullshit. The average temperature of the planet has only increased 0.8 Feirenheit in the last 100 years.

[jomama]

if you think about this too much, you'll go crazy and freak yourself out and get upset haha

[robyn]

It disturbs me that you're running off at the mouth about something you clearly don't know enough about. I mean, if you want to get technical, we're still in an ice-age. It can get A LOT hotter, and it will!

[miss.myra]

I could get all meteorological on your ass....moving warm and cold fronts doesn't seem entirely abnormal to me.

Rain IS normal. We've had two days of rain after weeks of hot, dry weather that makes all the grass icky yellow. TWO DAYS, relax. It IS normal.

[miss.myra]

ps- why be scared of something you can't control? mass climate change has had catastrophic effects on the world before people started littering.

[Jingles]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

Rain IS normal. We've had two days of rain after weeks of hot, dry weather that makes all the grass icky yellow. TWO DAYS, relax. It IS normal.

she said rain is normal.

i think it's funny how so many are quick to
brush it off', ya we're all gonna die anyway, or why you worried- this ain't nothing....

I mean, if you want to get technical, we're still in an ice-age. It can get A LOT hotter, and it will!

as if nothing is legitimatley happening -- we already know that if Co2 emissions continue at this rate that our planet will get hotter
we are going through weather changes, (BTW technically we are not in an ice age right now) http://dsc.discovery.com/news/afp/20040607/iceage.html

anyway, i, for one, encourage this kind of conversation because it encourages self reflection in ones own habits and how they might be affecting the environment - and to me that is a positive thing. Sitting on a part of the land mass that consumes most of our planets resources i think we all need to be aware of more
and I agree with Myra, there is little need to be frightened of something we can not totally control, as mother nature has a funny way of smacking us upside the head regardless of what we do -

[Sykonee]

Climate change in inevitable whether we like it or not. Barring human intervention, volcanic ash can cause climate change, slight shifts in orbital patterns and axis tilts of Earth can cause climate change, solar eruptions can cause climate change, big hunks of rock from space can cause climate change; heck, even the Moon is causing climate change every day due to the fact that it is slowly orbiting further away from Earth, thus affecting the tides.

The bigger question should be how will the human race, and life in general, adapt to it.

[bungoshlung]

^adaptation, i like that

[booshka]

I'm not actually scared about global warming, like someone suggested, I know I won't die from global warming. I'm scared that everyone I encounter seems to brush it off so casually. You assume I don’t know much about global warming, so if you do, tell me more, I'd like to know. Because I assumed I knew quite a bit, but if you can convince me otherwise please do so.

[Segued]

what REALLY disturbes me, is that within the next hundred years global warming is going to eventually melt this huge ice burg in the atlantic and once that happend and it crashes into the ocean a mile high wave is gonna take out the north/eastern part of the states..like new york n shit.....i watch the discovery channel alot.

[bungoshlung]

nothing like that is going to happen when all the ice caps melt. they dont melt in one big splurge. and even after all if it has melted, place close to the coastlines such as deltas *could* be submerged but most likely just damaged.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by booshka

I'm not actually scared about global warming, like someone suggested, I know I won't die from global warming. I'm scared that everyone I encounter seems to brush it off so casually. You assume I don’t know much about global warming, so if you do, tell me more, I'd like to know. Because I assumed I knew quite a bit, but if you can convince me otherwise please do so.

What ought someone do who has no real control over the inevitable? What good would worrying do?

All you can really do is live life in the now.

[Kelster]

There's No Such Thing As Global Warming Ok