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Old Apr 10, 05
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I dream of one day being a rave dj

How do i go about doing this?
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Old Apr 10, 05
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Serious?

Start making more money. You're gonna need it.

2xTech12s, Pioneer DJM600.

Every club in Van will have this (poss. diff. mixer, but the 600 and like-minded A&H/Pioneer mixers are as close to an industry standard as seems to exist). Raves tend not to be different.

All you can really do is start doing. Become a bedroom dj until your skills are decent enough to play out. Play House parties, they're great public practice. Work your way up.

The important thing is to work. Don't have a gig? Throw one. Meet more promoters/djs who can give you tips/get you gigs. Check out the club scene. The people are just as fun, the majority of the drugs consumed are actually sold right at the bar and it's not gonna get busted.

Most important, play songs people like. If you throw down ambient or trip-hop, don't expect very many 3am timeslots. This doesn't mean crowd-pleasing. It just means that if there was no crowd, you wouldn't have a job, would you?

Crowd-pleasing means playing songs people _want_ to hear, the crowd-pleasers. Last year's crowd pleaser seemed to be Call On Me (HEAR THAT DJS? LAST YEAR'S) I'm certain by about August there will be something else grating on my ears that I kinda liked earlier on and can't stand anymore. Feel free to find out what that song is and grate it if you want the 3am slots.

Remember you play other people's music. It's not that impressive. Don't get an ego about it. Oakie did in and now nobody likes him. Tiesto's doing it too and he's on the way out. Yeah, you can get big. But you're still just playing records. And there are seriously a lot more people who can do it better than you.

"Don't be no crowd pleasing ass kissing fucker. Play the 15 minute version for the 2 motherfuckers that understand it."

Oh, and listen to DJ Z-Trip and learn how it's done.
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Old Apr 10, 05
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^You forgot about the relentless cocksucking involved.
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Old Apr 10, 05
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Oh yeah. Strong jaws are a total prereq.
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Old Apr 10, 05
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Most important, play songs people like. If you throw down ambient or trip-hop, don't expect very many 3am timeslots. This doesn't mean crowd-pleasing. It just means that if there was no crowd, you wouldn't have a job, would you?done.

i disagree with this, ive been spinning for a few years now and have played at many raves and i spin the absolute hardest tekk and dnb there is, i garuntee i could spin at a party in van and there wouldnt be anyone who knows the name of the tracks i spinn during my tekk set and for 99% of my dnb set. And what happens is some people leave cause they dont like shit that hard, but people are always gona leave not everyone likes house music or trance or dnb so dont even worry about that shit, and there will always be people who do like it, speically if its a phat change from the same shit there hearing ever single day. Which is good cuase it will start up a little following of people that like it, keep spinning at parties and you ll gain your own fans that love your shit.

Not being from van and going down there and seeing 1 great dj for every 10 terrible ones was sad, all playing the exact same shit, if your just in it to have fun and love doing it cause you like hearing ur tracks on a huge system then fuck that playing crownpleasing shit and spin what you want too.

sidenote,no matter what you decide to spinn there will always be places and people that will love your style you just have to find them.
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Old Apr 10, 05
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make demo's...lots, you want to be heard. You don't look around for a promoter to get you gigz. Make them come to you!
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Old Apr 10, 05
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i disagree with this, ive been spinning for a few years now and have played at many raves and i spin the absolute hardest tekk and dnb there is, i garuntee i could spin at a party in van and there wouldnt be anyone who knows the name of the tracks i spinn during my tekk set and for 99% of my dnb set. And what happens is some people leave cause they dont like shit that hard, but people are always gona leave not everyone likes house music or trance or dnb so dont even worry about that shit, and there will always be people who do like it, speically if its a phat change from the same shit there hearing ever single day. Which is good cuase it will start up a little following of people that like it, keep spinning at parties and you ll gain your own fans that love your shit.
I'm sorry, but if you're playing a mainstage and there's only 3 people dancing, someone fucked up somewhere.

Yes, it's good to mix it up, but I hate the idea of filler tracks. Yeah, you can bring the set up and down, but that doesn't mean you have to play music nobody's going to dance to.

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Not being from van and going down there and seeing 1 great dj for every 10 terrible ones was sad, all playing the exact same shit, if your just in it to have fun and love doing it cause you like hearing ur tracks on a huge system then fuck that playing crownpleasing shit and spin what you want too.
Like I said, I'm not saying be a crowdpleaser. I'm saying don't suck, I guess.
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Old Apr 10, 05
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I'm sorry, but if you're playing a mainstage and there's only 3 people dancing, someone fucked up somewhere.

Yes, it's good to mix it up, but I hate the idea of filler tracks. Yeah, you can bring the set up and down, but that doesn't mean you have to play music nobody's going to dance to.


Like I said, I'm not saying be a crowdpleaser. I'm saying don't suck, I guess.

dude you think the only thing playing on mainstages across the world is top 40 trance??
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Old Apr 10, 05
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^^ welcome to vancouver.... unfortunantly thats all it is all top 40. I'm not going to name the dj but I heard a set once at a venue all all the tracks were back to back ferry corsten and armin van buuren tracks. The dj thought he was some hot shot putting his hands in the air at climaxes and shit. Was the gayest of the gay I've ever seen.
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Old Apr 10, 05
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i garuntee i could spin at a party in van and there wouldnt be anyone who knows the name of the tracks i spinn during my tekk set and for 99% of my dnb set.
Thats a pretty giant statement, i'm sure many of the dnb heads in Vancouver could ID your tracklist by ear. Even if you were dropping unreleased material.
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Old Apr 10, 05
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^^ probly some of the dnb i havent really heard much dnb in van no idea what the scene is like down there. but if its jazy intramental or even maybe jungle they might not.

NONE of the tekk.
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Old Apr 11, 05
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dude you think the only thing playing on mainstages across the world is top 40 trance??
WTF?

I hate trance.

Where the hell did that come from?
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Old Apr 11, 05
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If you want to be a famous rave DJ, the first thing you have to do is get yourself a crew to hype you up. Y'know, the kind of posse that will come to every single one of your events and support you. Promoters love having people come to their events, and if you can guarantee extra ticket sales, go for it. This is one of the reasons you see so many of the same names at so many of the parties: they draw a guaranteed crowd of friends and associates.

The next thing you need to do is get yourself an excellent PR agent. It doesn't matter how good or bad you can spin or how good or bad your track selection is. An excellent PR agent will get you further than any talent will.

The third and final thing you have to do is get yourself a big rock. The big rock has been the most useful tool known to mankind since the days we first developed tools, and is still an incredibly useful tool. You may find yourself in a sticky prediciment, like, say, fugly fan-girls hounding you. Use the big rock to fend them off. Or, lets say you are detained at customs for trying to bring tons of vinyl into another country (no wonder more DJs are switching to CDs). Use the big rock to break out of there!
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Old Apr 11, 05
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^^ probly some of the dnb i havent really heard much dnb in van no idea what the scene is like down there. but if its jazy intramental or even maybe jungle they might not.

NONE of the tekk.
The hard dark and tech are my specialties and there are tonnes of heads who are into that stuff.. Psidream is all about the heavy stuff.
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Old Apr 11, 05
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The hard dark and tech are my specialties and there are tonnes of heads who are into that stuff.. Psidream is all about the heavy stuff.

Sweet!!! i had no idea!!
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Old Apr 11, 05
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once you get decks, about 50-80 records and can somewhat mix, you'll have no problem getting a gig at a rave as long as you get out there and make some friends with promoters and dj's who can hook you up with contacts.

but no one will care who you are for a while and you'll be playing timeslots where the venues are empty... and on shitty sound systems most of the time. house parties are great places to practice, get some groupies, and learn how to work the place.

to get the real rave dj treatment of a big crowd, bumpin sound and dope timeslot, you gotta be good. you gotta establish yourself as a name for a decent amount of time, gotta have those die hard friends/fans who'll cheer you on, but in the end, they have to come to you because you're good, not because you forced them to come. just do your thing like a natural, have some fun, do not let the fame get to your head cuz you'll get fixated and go down. getting up there and playing a set that you're really into with the crowd feeling it with you is pretty nuts! better than any drug i've ever tried =)
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Old Apr 11, 05
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Old Apr 13, 05
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^^ probly some of the dnb i havent really heard much dnb in van no idea what the scene is like down there. but if its jazy intramental or even maybe jungle they might not.

NONE of the tekk.
Vancouver is chalk full of dub/unreleased/track ID nerds.

I guarentee that 90% of your tracks will probably be IDd by the dnb scene here.
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