Chase and Status

[LeeBrat]

well...that was my first time out in like..nearly 2 months. and getting to see everyone was awsome. but, the night itself really sucked, and then the fight:(

[dj_soo]

I just hate "divey" places thats all...

silly me. And here I thought it was all about the music...

[angst]

Originally Posted by Junglist

Yea the show was great! It's too bad I wasn't able to stay for the whole thing. Getting assaulted outside sucked. Thank you Alla, Jay and Sof for all of your help.

Glad to hear you're ok man. Shit looked pretty brutal.

[C_squared]

Justin, I just read this man... Some kids get too drunk and stupid, sorry to hear you had to experience the latter. Glad to hear you're ok dude!

[bias dj]

My apologies to Justin I've known him for quite some time and he was the last person that I would think to be in any sort of violent situation. But you put liquor into the equation and anything can happen.

wow there is so much hate on this board towards the night it seems.
It's really fucked too cause if any of you came down there on a regular basis you would know that there hasn't been any fights there for a few months up until the chase and status show. And honestly it doesn't get violent there just because it's the met. It's called people and booze. You mix the two together and well some people just can't check themselves and it's really quite sad that our night seems to suffer because a few retards decide to act like high schoolers and fight or get up in the bouncers faces when there just doing there job and not expect them to do anything.

I'm appsolutely appaulled by what went down at chase and status but this shouldn't deter people from coming down. If more of you claiming your not about violence came down on a more regular basis it would probly be less violent you would think. But everyone just focuses on the one night that they come down for a special event and when something bad happens it's all like that's why I don't go there and blah blah. Maybe if some of you made more of an effort in the Real Life and watched out for your fellow man then there wouldn't be so much violence or at least it would be squashed b4 it started.

How about lets focus on the positive
it was a wikkid sounding night with lots of people having a great time big up Automatic for letting us host the show at the met and big up everyone who came down and supported. And for all those who make an effort each and everyweek. Let's keep Drum n'Bass alive in this city and support!!!

[esoter1c]

Last night was wicked, everyone was fucked and flailing.

I've never had nothin but good times at the met.

The Lotus is right around the corner and I've seen more fights there than the met.

Like Bias said idiots+booze=trouble.

Dope b-day set monsieur Bias.

I'm surprised more people didn't show up, big downs to the jaded junglists.

[dabbler]

it's not people + booze.

its a CERTAIN TYPE OF PEOPLE + booze.

and certain places attract certain people. fights do not happen just anywhere where people drink.

[brokencrayon]

Originally Posted by bias dj

My apologies to Justin I've known him for quite some time and he was the last person that I would think to be in any sort of violent situation. But you put liquor into the equation and anything can happen.

wow there is so much hate on this board towards the night it seems.
It's really fucked too cause if any of you came down there on a regular basis you would know that there hasn't been any fights there for a few months up until the chase and status show. And honestly it doesn't get violent there just because it's the met. It's called people and booze. You mix the two together and well some people just can't check themselves and it's really quite sad that our night seems to suffer because a few retards decide to act like high schoolers and fight or get up in the bouncers faces when there just doing there job and not expect them to do anything.

I'm appsolutely appaulled by what went down at chase and status but this shouldn't deter people from coming down. If more of you claiming your not about violence came down on a more regular basis it would probly be less violent you would think. But everyone just focuses on the one night that they come down for a special event and when something bad happens it's all like that's why I don't go there and blah blah. Maybe if some of you made more of an effort in the Real Life and watched out for your fellow man then there wouldn't be so much violence or at least it would be squashed b4 it started.

How about lets focus on the positive
it was a wikkid sounding night with lots of people having a great time big up Automatic for letting us host the show at the met and big up everyone who came down and supported. And for all those who make an effort each and everyweek. Let's keep Drum n'Bass alive in this city and support!!!

I'm sorry if this seems out of context and bitchy but your post just seems like you are placing most of the blame on Justin when honestly he did nothing wrong at all, we were leaving the met and next thing we know he is being viciously attacked from behind by a complete stranger...with a weapon too, I might add. We were speaking to the bouncer after and he even couldn't fathom why that asshat would just attack Justin out of the blue like that. I don't know what you consider a "fight" but I don't call that a fight, I call that assault by a pussy.

You mix the two together and well some people just can't check themselves and it's really quite sad that our night seems to suffer because a few retards decide to act like high schoolers and fight or get up in the bouncers faces when there just doing there job and not expect them to do anything.

Haha, I'm not sure whether or not that was directed at me Toby, but you're partially right.. about alcohol=violence. History will prove itself again and again. Alcohol does increase the likelyhood of violence. I know how you feel about drunks and alcohol but promoting a night on a friday with the cheapest beer in town only increases the odds.

But as Ang mentioned, assault is assault and all of my injuries were sustained to the back of my head. I'm a nerdy Linux software engineer for godsake, I'm not the type of guy that goes out looking for a fight :D

[bias dj]

Dabbler > I reckon that it's more like a combination of all things Dabs not just a certain type of people and a certain type of place. I have been at the met every friday now for a while so I have seen all sorts of people come in and out and you'd be surprised at the type of people that get into fights. And you'd be surprised that the people who you say it "attracts" actually don't really get into fights and are actually just drum n'bass's most dedicated fans.

Honestly man booze makes people different in the head some people less than others but saying the met attracts a certain type of crowd is kinda wacky as the same people that go there also would grace the Lotus in the last year as well as lots of other events. So wouldn't it be better to just say Drum n'Bass music can SOMETIMES attract the wrong people. And booze generaly makes violence more likely where ever it be. And now because of this should we all just quit drinking/goin out and start liking country music or something. I say hell no and you probly would say the same.

Brokencrayon>No I completely agree that what happened there was not considered a fight. I was more speaking in general of peoples attitudes to the one time months and months ago they were there and witnessed some high school brawl. Like honestly that shit is wack and I think you all know it. And it doesn't happen everyweek it happens like 4 times a year that's 4/52 weeks which in my opinion is pretty normal for a bar/club(remember I'm there every week peoples). I'm the most anti-violent laid back person at the met and well violence is not my thing at all it makes me cringe.
There is no blame on Justin whatsoever if anything I see is as loosing two people who probly won't ever come down there again on account of some "asshat" who was drunk or whatever and decided to hit someone with a weapon. As far as I'm concerned it's wrong but I can't blame myself and you can't blame a building. But you know what I do know, sometimes people don't think before they act and then people can get hurt. But in no way is this comment directed at justin or is my post, for I know justin and I also know he is very very chill and would never start shit with nobody.

Justin>Not directed at you at all mate. I think my response to your wife and dabs pretty much answers your reply. And yes it may increase the odds a bit but there are not many other places that would have drum n'bass everyweek. Sometimes you have a slow night and then they(managment) don't like that cause there in the business to make money and usually when they don't make so much here and there they can ya. Me I'm in it for the music and always will be so having a venue that supports that on a friday night each and everyweek is a bonus. And I think we should be thankful. Plus I'd move the night in a flash if I found a better place that was willing and was a sure thing but until that time I'm just thankful.

respect .

i think its going to be very difficult to keep the place busy every Friday if the bouncers or management don’t protect their clients

[dabbler]

@ toby, yes, but i didn't refer to DnB being what attracts certain people. Its the venue, cost of booze, and a seeming lack of security. all of the "junglists" that i know of who get in fights quite often at any club (not just the met) are rarely seen at the lotus, and somehow usually behave themselves there when they do show up.

i would also blame the bouncers at the met, as the person who attacked Justin, was known by them, as he was an EX BOUNCER there, as well as at the Bourbon. They know who he is, and protected him when he took off, by not being honest about it.

[brokencrayon]

^ The one bouncer dude was honest in the end sorta. My friend convinced him to do the right thing and he said he will give a statement against him to the police (we hope he was being honest). We haven't heard from the police yet to get an update on Justin's case though. I need to call and inquire because I don't want them just shoving it to the back of the pile. I'm sure it's not the most important case but to me it is still important enough not to forget about.

bias dj -- no hard feelings, I misunderstood you a bit. I never stated I blamed the met becuase I don't, that was other people's response to what happened. It's just really disappointing when the bouncers just like Alla and Dabbler have stated, do nothing at all until it's too late to do much about it... but I will admit I doubt I will go there atleast not for a long time... again though it's nothing against the venue but I'll admit I am traumatized in a way. Having said that though, it's not just the met, at any bar now I will be watching our backs more because I've realized that you don't even have to do anything to piss someone off or anything, some people are just fucked in the head and will attack/try to start a fight with you anyways... and that really concerns me.

Oh well, I just hope we can make this case against the guy and he will get atleast something for what he did to Justin.

[bias dj]

@dabs honestly mate I think it's more of the times we are in cause I've seen and heard about my fair share of stuff happening at the lotus over the years. Plus like I said man your not there every week I am and there are only like 4 fights/random acts of violence there like in a year and how many times did you do down there in the last year like what 4 times. And wasn't Chase and Status an Automatic Event anyway.

I think that you just don't like a certain type of people and are scape goating them in this case as it had nothing to do with patrons who are into Dnb at the met it was this ex-bouncer who has nothing to do with dnb at all.

And like Ang said the one bouncer is making a statement in Justins favor so I think this topic is pretty much closed.

so ease up on the certain type of people blah blah to me it just makes you look like your hating on a night that does quite well for itself and I don't need people thinking that it's a UFC night when it's bloodly well not.

Thanks