Inconsiderate drivers

[charly]

Originally Posted by Webber

you're right there are lots of other things that are more important that owning a car and with the extra's the car brings they might not be able to afford it.
I know a couple people though that work full time, go to school part time, pay rent and still have a car - with no help from their parents. Which is why the "Mommy and Daddy are not there to help me. Hence why I do not have a vehicle of my own" gets to me, they made choices that have left them without a vehicle

Again, that all depends on their expenses, and how much they make. Not every can own a car. Just because some people can, doesn't mean that everyone who happens to work the same hours and go to school the same hours can have one. People get paid different wages, people pay different amounts of rent, people have other expenses.

Besides, a car isn't always a viable choice. While I still had mine, I was going to school full time and working part time. I never drove it though. My school has pretty much no parking, unless you get there ridiculously early. And parking where I worked was stupidly expensive. So taking the bus was the better choice. If that's how things are, then what's the point in owning a car? So you can waste all that money for the luxury of driving it a couple times a month?

Seriously, just because someone works full time, doesn't mean they make a lot of money. They could very easily just be it through. There's a big difference between working a full time $8/hr job and getting about $600 every two weeks, then someone who works a $15/hr job and gets over $1000 every two weeks.

[Carrie]

Originally Posted by prozac

It's this comment that displays your ignorance. People aren't "jealous" of your car as you keep saying and we don't care whether you pay insurance or not.

It's just the arrogant attitude that everyone thinks walking hunched over in the rain wrestling an umbrella out of the wind stepping in puddles cramming onto damp buses and arriving at our destination wet and grumpy is a "good idea" that makes you sound like a twat.

I don't think venturing out in the rain is a good idea. I absolutely hate it. I think that most people feel the same way. I'm just happy that I don't have to do it.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Carrie

I don't think venturing out in the rain is a good idea. I absolutely hate it. I think that most people feel the same way. I'm just happy that I don't have to do it.

Yah, but back to my original point, why on earth would someone think it's a good idea? Your original post irked me because you made it seem like all of us who take transit and/or have to walk places in less than nice weather do it because we think it's a 'good idea'. I'm not jealous of your car or anyone else's for that matter, but I would certainly not want you to think that I think having wet socks all day is a 'good idea'.

[Carrie]

When I think about going somewhere I decide whether it's a good idea to go. When I didn't have the car it was the same thing. I hated that I would decide not to go out because the weather sucked and I had to bus to whereever I was going. I understand that getting to and from work is a necessary thing to do every day, but I guess I never had to bus to work only to school.

So, I decided that having a car would be a good idea so that when it came to go out in the shitty vancouver weather for work or play, I would not end up somewhere with wet socks.

what I think of the situation, and what you think about the situation are different views. It hasn't been easy for me taking a bus until I was 19/20 and yea I've had some help getting the car, if I didn't have the help I would still decide that getting a car is the right thing for me to do. I don't find it a waste of money and I still paid off my student loans and etc while having a car and paying the numerous expenses that come with it.

[miss.myra]

okay but when I have to wake up in the morning and it's pouring rain and I have to work I don't go through the 'is it a good idea to leave the house today?' process because my workplace is not going to buy "yeah I'm not coming in today because it's just not a good idea"

Furthermore, I totally agree that if you're leaving the house in the rain and walking about then you expect that you should get wet, and we can blame mother nature and ourselves for that. I think it's totally another thing when you get really soaking wet not because of mother nature, but because some prick wants to get a thrill at a splashy puddle and get some kind of joy out of making someone soaking wet, that is totally different and I think that's probably what kat was trying to say. If this kind of thing happened to anyone they would be just as pissed off and perhaps it's hard to understand unless you've been there. Kind of like how a bird shitting on someone is totally hilarious right up until it happens to you. ugh.

[Carrie]

I'm sure thats not what you think, but if I didn't have my car I wouldn't work as far from home as I do because I wouldn't want to bus to work. I choose to have a car and not have to walk to work in the rain.

Things are amusing to me. Driving into puddles is one of them. I don't know why but it puts a smile on my face. In my original post, I mentioned that I never had anyone stand by the puddle and that I would probably not drive fast if I did see someone standing by it. It's fun to do, and if I happen to spray someone I would feel bad about it.

[prozac]

on the whole "you don't have a car because you didnt save/I don't have a car because I can't afford it" train of thought...

I can afford a car. However I have only ever owned one and that was in Australia. I decided that I don't want to deal with insurance, gas prices, maitenance, traffic, and parking while contributing to the congestion on our roads and pollution in our air. I choose to hop on the train with my book every morning and pass over all the idling traffic, spewing smog into the sky while their drivers become apopleptic with road rage.

I bitch and whine with the rest of them when I have to don a snorkel and flippers to get to my bus, but in the end I know I've made the right choice for me. I guess the inconvenience is worth it for me?

(jeez I'm a sucker for punishment lol)

[Carrie]

Originally Posted by prozac

on the whole "you don't have a car because you didnt save/I don't have a car because I can't afford it" train of thought...

I can afford a car. However I have only ever owned one and that was in Australia. I decided that I don't want to deal with insurance, gas prices, maitenance, traffic, and parking while contributing to the congestion on our roads and pollution in our air. I choose to hop on the train with my book every morning and pass over all the idling traffic, spewing smog into the sky while their drivers become apopleptic with road rage.

I bitch and whine with the rest of them when I have to don a snorkel and flippers to get to my bus, but in the end I know I've made the right choice for me. I guess the inconvenience is worth it for me?

(jeez I'm a sucker for punishment lol)

I was never one to say that you can't afford a car or you didn't save for it. People do what they want with their money. If you don't want to spend it on a car then thats fine. It's just when you complain about the situation that you put yourself in, then it doesn't make sense.

I wish I could do more for the environment. I try to recycle and not waste water and take care of our world. Unfortunately I've become very used to having a car. It also helps me with my job, as I have to drive to Coquitlam and back to Vancouver. It's not something for me to give up right now.

[robyn]

guys now that i've thought about it i kind of wish my parents had bought me a mobile home

[charly]

^ lol then you'd have the best of both worlds!

my parents never bought me a car or an apartment. i bought my car myself, and when it came down to it, i had to sell it. i needed the money more (because i only got half my student loans because i owned a car. therefore i was kind of forced into selling it), and it wasjust sitting there wasting more money.

and yes, driving and making big puddles splash is fun. i think it goes back to being a kid and splashing around in puddles. only now you can do it without getting yourself wet. but even when i drove, i never did it while someone was standing on the sidewalk because that is just not cool.


and one more random point.. you can't always avoid it. sometimes in the mornings when there's quite a bit of traffic going past, and the street is almost flooded, it's really hard to avoid, and it's really obvious that those in their cars just don't give a fuck. (kind of seems to be the mentality of "well everyone else is doing it so it much be okay")

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by Webber

[color=navy][b]Everytime I hear this it gets to me. You don't have a vehicle because you didn't save for one. If you work full time, you should be able to put enough money away to buy a car within a year - you only need $2000 - $5000

maybe thats how it works in abby, but i live and work downtown and i don't have a car because i don't need one, not because i can't afford one. that doesn't give everyone with a car a license to be a dick.

[Prissypants]

Originally Posted by Webber

Everytime I hear this it gets to me. You don't have a vehicle because you didn't save for one. If you work full time, you should be able to put enough money away to buy a car within a year - you only need $2000 - $5000

Actually I was offered a car last year but I chose to not take it. I hate driving and it is just a money hole when I can take the bus at $70/mo or ride my bike for about $15/mo. I have no problem riding the bus and I kind of like the rain actually...What I don't like is jackass drivers who think that they own the road and the sidewalks. As far as not having a vehicle because I didn't save for one, I don't know what kind of jobs your friends worked but I have been paying my own way for everything since I was 17 and I would of been starving if I tried to own a car during any part of that time. Especially in Van.

Point is, don't be a jerk when you're driving. Especially to people who have to walk.

[Carrie]

it works both ways.

people that are walking have to realize that it's not always the best thing to walk out into traffic. and that cyclists have to use the same rules as cars.

so don't blame us. it's everyones fault

[bittner]

i like stuff

[charly]

^ i like flowers!

[Carrie]

I like birthday weeks!