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What a rave WAS/IS to me...
What A Rave WAS To Me
A rave was once a place where all kinds of different people gathered, a safe place where the stress and anger you felt outside would just melt away as soon as you walked in the door. A rave was all about dancing, and being absolutely astonished by the things that the "old schoolers" knew how to do. Often at a rave, you were content to just sit in a heavily trafficed area and meet all the people that went by, and some of the best conversations at raves would happen in the bathroom. A rave was a place that you could feel comfortable and dance even when you really sucked bad, because you were having fun and that's all that mattered. A rave used to be a place where you knew you would never get intentionally hurt by someone. It was a night you would countdown to starting the night after the previous rave. A rave was the only place that you would see your raver friends, and even if you did happen to bump into them out in public, most times you wouldn't even recognize them. A rave was where i met the first woman I ever fell in love with. I was sober at the time. Most importantly raves WERE all about the PLUR What A Rave IS To Me Now Raves to me, are not even raves any more. Most of these "raves" are just drug parties that occur in rented buildings playing techno. Now, raves are a place and a reason to drugs. And, you run into the saddest personalities on earth. You actually have to feel sorry for some of the people that you meet. The main focus of the party for many has shifted away from the poeple and the dancing to focus squarely on the drugs. Dancing has become a sort of joke to a large group of the people that go. Even the greatest dancers are getting ripped on for it. PLUR is simply four letters. We are the "Old Schoolers" now, but the change in raves has left us feeling empty and tired. We no longer pass down all the amazing rave shit that we have picked up over the years. When I step into a rave sober, I notice a lot of newbies completely mangled from the drugs and completely consumed by the energy of the people and the rave...Then it hits me, raves actually haven't changed all that much, we have. We're passing the feeling we used to have to the people that need it the same way we needed it when we started. 
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good call Robyn!
Im feeling sorrowful now :( Dashboard would be the perfect background music I think!! haha Last edited by ~*faeryfly*~; Oct 13, 04 at 12:20 PM.
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How deep.
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I disagree. A rave is what you make of it. I have never not been excited to go to a rave and the day I am, is the day I stop going. I may know a little more than when I first started, but that doesn't mean I have any less fun. I still dress up, dance and run around giving out kandi and candy. I don't go to do drugs, thats only on special ocasions like birthday and maybe newyears. I go to dance, see my friends and make new friends.
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Im sure the feeling of oneness and love was to do with that everyone was on E and felt like everyone there was their best friend. Sorta like the hippies and their lsd and how they wanted social change, but once the haze cleared they eventually assimilated into society. What they need is a new drug to fuel a new legion of kids. The politics of life, friends and relationships will ALWAYS inevitably invade any kinda of special "movement" or "culture" that is created. Drugs will always be there too...
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You know what Woodstock Im actually pretty fuckin amazed that came out of you.. Really man props its true who is to say that raves are for the worse now.. Back in 99 oldschoolers probably felt the same way the new wave oldschoolers now feel.. I also agree with Amber though the rave is what you make of it..
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yeah, its been almost four years since i was in attendance at my first party and i fully agree. raves are boring for me now. it's obviously me who's changed since i can't be around the rave-y people anymore, it kind of digsusts me actually.
it's all about new experiences and changing as you live, and some people just change out of enjoying raves or being into it really quickly, but still remember the memories and wish they could still enjoy it like they used to. sure, it makes me kinda sad.. but i'm not the little kid i used to be. rave on, i will sit at home and watch movies instead. haha :)
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So, is this more of that "Old School Ravers become jaded" stuff?
I have never been to any large scale raves, so I am not experienced enough to make a judgement. I want to hear more from you experienced people.
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Coming from the oldschool
I remember an early rave scene at "The World," back in 92'/93', back when alchohol was called "poison." Back when the rave nights were called conceptual interface and the dj's were part of the high council (and they were high). Things changed as the music changed. Back then the parties were techno/house parties (the early years), then they went into all these directions, like D&B, Speedgarage, hardhouse, industrial, etc.. This causes people to stick to only certain crowds and become elitest in their style. Then around 2000 the Trance things was so huge it nearly brought rave back, but alas...it seperated again as people started to diss Rave as being "formulatic and cheesy." Today we have some of the best talent ever. I still would like Art of Trance to come to Vancouver now and again. Rave isn't dead, but certainly their is room for improvement. I see a lot of money over fun ($5 for water, $30 cover, budget lights, shit sound) I see a lot of dj's playin just house, or just drum and basss (boring). The Massive failures, the settling for a big name once every few months. It's just not as good as it used to be and then, we were on an even stricter budget. Drugs have gotten pretty impressive too. At least redbull is at 7-11, bout time.
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i havent had a good vibe at a party for years.
i agree with you woodstock. i also agree with you amber but lately i try and make it something good but im always surrounded by skanks that wear barely anything, barstars and fights everywhere. I cant say that i've had a good time at a party since lost colors and that was a long time ago. i'll be at skullfuck because i know no hoochie mamas will be able to tolerate such hard "anal tearing" music. and that's what halloween parties are all about.. drugs, dirty dancing and pounding techno music :)
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i suppose you can call me a new raver (my first party being twisted 04)
but i have been in love with raves since i was 13. and now im turning 20. my love for it hasnt changed.. but this may be due to the fact that i loved only an ideal concept of raves untill recently but even now, i cant imagine not loving it ALL. even the drugged up party kids even the hooched out 12 year olds wearing barely anything at all even the jaded oldschoolers even the barstars it all makes it what it is. it is still a whole mass of people all coming together in one common place. enjoying the music and company. who cares if you pop? if youve been raving for hundreds of years? your there. everyone keeps telling me i should have started earlier. that it was SO much better in the 'old days'. but i honestly dont see it. its good for me right now. and i think it has everything to do with your perception. if you were to start all over right.now. i think it would all be fresh and new and lovely again. or maybe im still 'honey mooning'. i love it all =D
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The time it takes for people to tire of the constant presense of drugs, and the almost never-ending pleas from high people to get you to take some. It kind of makes me mad that some people feel that it is necissary to try force anything, yet alone drugs on a person that has said they don't want to do it. To all you people offering drugs to people the second they find out they're trying to quit them, take them and give them to one of the five hundred people that told you that they had no money and wanted drugs. If your going to give your drugs away, don't do it to a person that wants to quit. It makes it tougher. It seems as though some of this new generation feels that if you quit or even slow down with the drugs that your somehow hurting them personally. It is a very destructive way of trying to get people to stay the same as you that has to stop.
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When people refer to the "old days" of raving, they all seem to have the exact same view of how everything was whether they have been raving for 14 years or 6 months.
The feeling they are talking about and the "vibe" are created by their mind because of the excitement and often fear of going to a rave. After a time, the rave scene becomes almost routine to people, which is when they start to lose the excitement. Also, if you found, that recently you started losing the euphoria that the rave created in the absense of drugs, check to see if you have just entered a relationship. Even the best partner can make raving seem odd. It doesn't matter if that person is a raver. I noticed a coincidence between my lack of fun and raves and addition of a girlfriend. What a partner sometimes makes you do is set up boundaries and limits for yourself; which isnt' exactly what the rave is supposed to be about.
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So i guess i agree with you, we do change, but im really serious about DNB. So now i goto clubs or to seattle to get my fix. I spend LOTS of money on vinyl and have slowly been growing my knowledge on the production side. So growing old and bored of the rave thing isn't that bad. Tonnes of people have grown in different directions as promoters, dj's, producers, dancers, artists. All these people have one thing in common; they are highly creative people. That free spirited, no responsibility ways of the old rave days is unrealistic when you grow up.
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