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Anyhow, this whole "Their house their rules" thing is a crock of shit. Any of you guys who REALLY believe that it's cool for anyone to endanger your health because they pay the bills is incredibly foolish. And, for the record, he doesn't pay the bills - he pays a share of them, as does my bf, and therefore his dad SHOULD respect his health and NOT smoke in the house. I mean, the patio is RIGHT there, how hard is it? Edit: I live with my mom and brother, and BOTH of them are smokers. Yet neither of them smoke in the house. Why? 1. I am allergic. They're not ignorant and blind to my health. 2. It stinks everything up and is really, really gross. I don't pay rent, nor does my brother, nor will my mom LET us pay for anything really - so really it has NOTHING to do with "my house, my rules" but rather how much the person smoking in the house (or not) cares about the health and well-being of the others living in the house. Last edited by galaxie; Feb 06, 05 at 07:29 PM. 
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ashes aren't as tasty as they look. so the kitchen thing i can understand.
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Smoking in the house is gross. If it's a recent development, I don't see why they can't stop! Not like they smoked in the house before! My grandmother wont smoke in her own house when we are over bc both my sister and I are allergic. That's the key here! Grady is allergic and his Dad knows this, yet he and his gf have just started smoking in the house. That is really inconciderate, and endangering his son's health, and that of everyone else who comes over who is also allergic.
Also, smoking in the house (or a car for that matter) is not such a great idea, bc it really devalues your home (or car) if you ever want to sell. Odds are, you are not going to live in only one place, or drive only one car in your lifetime. It takes a hell of a lot of effort to get smoke/nicotine out of stuff... I would never consider buying a home or car that was smoked in. Yuck! I think smoking is incredibly disgusting, so I will never agree that it is NEVER OK to smoke in the house. Feel free to argue with me, but I agree with Nat 100% and I'm not budging on that one. Last edited by veN; Feb 07, 05 at 06:56 PM.
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If it's not supposed to be allowed in the house, then maybe the members of the house should be discussing it. You shouldn't be fighting it, your guy should, if it is also a new rule.. it's really hard to adjust to things.
"Their house their rules" isn't a crock of shit, its just respect towards someone (parents), they still have a right to do what they want. Everyone endangers themselves when they cross a street, or while having a cup of coffee. Before your boyfriend got old enough to share the bills, his dad was there for him and paying the bills IN FULL. So how can you argue that now? If your bf has a problem with his dad not respecting his health then maybe your bf should move out. You can't ask a smoker of who knows how many years to go outside. It's hard. After learning how to sit infront of the tv and smoke, you go outside in the freezing cold for 5 minutes. Why don't you sugest something like getting a patio heater, just in case that might be why they don't want to go outside. You also can't compare you and your family to him. You grew up differently. your parents grew up differently. Maybe your mom/bro have better manners when it comes to smoking. You can't just say.. my mom does this .. you should be doing it too.. and maybe this 'my mom doesn't LET me pay for anything' attitude is making you a little too spoiled? ps. like I said before. it's still not your fight to be fighting
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i mean its not your family and the last thing youd probally want is to start a conflict within the family it really isnt your place.... if it bothers your bf as much as it does you, then he should say sumthing, if its as bad as you say he should have already and if not then maybe its just you?
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i fully agree, i read this thread when it was first started, and i was visibly rattled on how shes telling them what to do.
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I'm a smoker. I like smoking in the house. but our landlord says no so we don't. anyways its kind of gross everything being saturated in smoky-ness and yellow-ey.. Ew.
He should respect the fact that your bf and you are both allergic to smoke but you can't exactly expect him to stop. That would be like him telling you to not ___________ ( do laundry on sundays, deep fry foods, drink from the milk carton, etc) at your house.
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but i'm not ganging up on you Galaxie! :) it's just something funny i remembered  ps. does the dad know that the son is allergic? 
Last edited by wum; Feb 06, 05 at 09:00 PM.
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speak up and say sumthen to the dad.... cause none of us here can do anything except be opinionated... or eelse just move on altho he may get offended if you say anything his son being allergic to it is one thing, but the sons gf, he may not give to shits maybe ask your bf to say sumthing
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Bottom line for all the uneducated dimwits who think its alright is this. It is unethical no matter who owns the property to put other peoples health at risk. By that logic it is alright to invite someone into your house and give them the option to have poison placed in their dinner. Or how bout this.... Its alright for a company to run a slave labour sweat shop because they pay the bills on the piece of property and the workers can leave at any time.
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^ Yeah but someone is doing this in the privacy of their own home, therefore anyone who enters the dwelling is subject to certain risks that they would have to accept if they were going to enter the home, she's not working there, she's not attending school there, so yes, she DOES have a choice.
anyways, if I was that uncomfortable about somewhere, I probably would choose not to frequent it. My ex boyfriend lived in a house full of guys that was always cold, smoke filled and REALLY dirty (dude, don't get me started on the bathroom) and they had long haired cats that were so cute, but I was also VERY allergic to and while I may have done some nice things like suprized all the houseboys by cleaning the bathroom a few times for them, it's not my place as the girlfriend to be telling them how they ought to live. What did I do? I just made it clear to my bf at the time that I could hang out there occasionally, but I preferred my own place because of certain factors that didn't make me 100% comfortable there, and he accepted that, so we mostly stayed together at my own apt. As rude and disgusting as it is, it unfortunately isn't your place to say anything. If it bothers you that much, then there are many compromises that could be reached.
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Feb 07, 05
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I think a lot of people bickering over this problem that Nat and Grady are experiencing are forgetting that:
- Grady's Dad & his Dad's gf didn't always smoke in the house. It's a recent development within the last few weeks. - Grady and Natalie are BOTH allergic. Now you might say "Nat's tough luck. Don't go to their house." but Grady is allergic too. I'm pretty sure that since they didn't smoke in the house before they were previously aware and sensative to Grady's condition. I personally think you are an irresponsible parent if you are smoking in the house with your children/family present. I also think that Natalie was venting in this section bc it is really frustrating to her to watch her bf endure this situation on a regular basis now (why did they start smoking inside now?), and this is a place to get stuff off your chest. However, if you see something you don't agree with and would feel comfortable taking a stand on behalf of someone you love (ie: Natalie confronting Grady's family, although Im not saying she is going to) then I think you have every right to hun. You are concerned about his health, and your own. Sure, Nat could not go over there, and sure Grady could move out. But if his Dad and his Dad's gf cared, they would go back to smoking outside. Last edited by veN; Feb 07, 05 at 05:45 PM.
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if this thread is allowed to continue then friendships will be torn assunder :(
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maybe it's fucken cold out and they don't want to smoke outdoors anymore.
and you can't say that he is irresponsible and doesn't care just cause of smoking. my dad and mom smoke. does that mean they are bad parents? are you going to call my parents irresponsible? because I would be very offended if you did. my parents did everything they could for me and my brother and I should hate them because they smoked infront of me. there are so many kids out there without homes, why are you complaining that your boyfriends is horrible at least he has one. he's old enough to make his own decisions but he can't make his dads. if he decided he wants to smoke in his own fucken house, then he can.
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Well Carrie, I guess I just called your parents irresponsible. They may be wonderful and thoughtful in so many ways, but they have unnecessarily endangered your life. I'm not sure how you feel about this (well actually I guess I do from your previous posts)... Are you a smoker yourself? I am not. I did my few years as a social smoker, but I realized how stupid that was. That may perhaps explain my view-point. I stand by what I said though, and I realize that we will never see eye-to-eye on this topic. That's fine. I still think you are really cool/fun! I don't carry msg debates with me into "real life".
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