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Old Jun 08, 06
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Comparing Bush to Hitler



I'm no bush lover (hehehe)

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But Comparing Bush to Hitler is pretty far- what do you think.

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Yeah, Hitler actually improved the economy of Depression Era Germany and made his Country into a Superpower. He also had the support of his Country.

Bush... not so much. More like taking his Country and giving it a swirly and having his own People turn against him.
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hahahah soo true.. xcept bush doesnt have to try very hard to blow up the world.. hitler had to march his armies through wutt half a dozen countries.. bush i think is almost worse minus the genecide.. that's the only thing that separates them i think.. that and the fact that bush trained osama bin laden before osama attacked the US.. now that's fucking stupid..
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It's possible no-one will ever combine power with pure evil in the way that Adolf Hitler did. Of course, Hitler was, like anyone else, just a person. A remarkable leader with some completely looney theories and psychotic tendencies.. but also just a person.

The reason Hitler and the Nazis keep coming up (again and again and again) is that they're the closest thing we have (in a world of moral ambiguity) to a symbol that says:

EVIL

When political arguments descend into mere slander, how useful it is to equate your opponent with pure evil. There's nothing new about portraying "the enemy" (Ie anyone you're arguing against, or fighting with) in a negative light to make your side look better. It's just that now, post 1945, we have an actual face and symbol we can put next to whomever we wish to degrade.

In the end, it's lazy and cliched. But for a protest sign, well, what do you expect? And Bush is closer than many.
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Hitler was a genious. an absolute brilliant political leader. tainted by hate.

hitler was also consumed with some very dark forces and held a strong obession with the occult...hence the use of the inverted swastika.

anyways, Bush as a 'leader' there is no comparison. BUT, bush is just a role player for the carlyel Pnac (plan for the new american century) groups.

and those two are like hitler and the nazi's times a zillion!....cuase they already hold power all over the world.
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I think more time is needed for any sort of comparison like that. Also it is likely that Bush will be long gone before the real shit starts to hit the fan.
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I really don't like Bush, but anyone who compares him to Hitler lacks even the most basic understanding of history, sorry.

Btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law :)

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Werd....

Not to mention that bush is a moron, a puppet. And Hitler was a geniuos albeit very evil.
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I really don't like Bush, but anyone who compares him to Hitler lacks even the most basic understanding of history, sorry.
It's also possible that you lack a basic understanding of current events and or history.
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bush and Hitler, going too far yes. but compairing the Nazi's with Bush's party and their actions is not going to far at all.
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bush and Hitler, going too far yes. but compairing the Nazi's with Bush's party and their actions is not going to far at all.
There are some parallels between the two, however to this point Bush is not guilty of attempted genocide. They both are accused of stealing elections, using terrorism as a pretext for invading sovereign nations, and are said to have helped fake the mentioned terrorist attacks. Only history will tell if Bush ends up with as much blood on his hands as Hitler.
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There are some parallels between the two, however to this point Bush is not guilty of attempted genocide. They both are accused of stealing elections, using terrorism as a pretext for invading sovereign nations, and are said to have helped fake the mentioned terrorist attacks. Only history will tell if Bush ends up with as much blood on his hands as Hitler.
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bush is doing damage to the world in ways that aren't measurable in body counts.

it will be near impossible for bush to reach the death count hitler did, but having the u.s. army stuck in iraq for the next 20 years might do it.

if they were sports prospects, i'd say hitler is the prototype player, but bushs' potential ceiling for 'greatness' far exceeds hitlers.
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^ahem...about your sig.

they cant plant a WMD in iraq because the ENTIRE worlds focus is ON iraq right now.

...not so with WTC.

and it only takes a small cell in the US gvt to pull off 911
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Bush is just the vapid figurehead... He alone is not responsible for all of the happenings. It's the underlings pulling the strings and prodding him around that are just as responsible as he.
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Bush is just the vapid figurehead... He alone is not responsible for all of the happenings. It's the underlings pulling the strings and prodding him around that are just as responsible as he.
He's a NeoCon puppet.
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Why couldn't they use Howdy-Doody? He's so much better on TV than Dubya.

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Bush wishes he was half the public speaker Hitler was.
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^ahem...about your sig.

they cant plant a WMD in iraq because the ENTIRE worlds focus is ON iraq right now.

...not so with WTC.

and it only takes a small cell in the US gvt to pull off 911
yea, they only had thousands of employees at wtc. not to mention the thousands of tourists every day at the wtc.

i can't fucking believe the stupidity in the world. you're willing to believe they took down the wtc and orchestrated 9/11, but apparently it's too hard to plant a wmd in iraq?

ya know when they invaded iraq? the actual start of the invasion and they were sweeping across the country unstopped by the pathetic iraqi army?

they could have planted it then. before there was any sort of organized insurgent activity.

the whole world watching iraq? yea, because cnn was just roving all about in the middle of a CLASSIFIED WARZONE.

your very explanation is flawed. if you're powerful enough to orchestrate 9/11, you're obviously up there in the us govt. thus you have just as much power/control over the us army. DUUUUUR.
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it will be near impossible for bush to reach the death count hitler did
Death targets haven't been "near impossible" to reach since the invention of the atomic bomb. Not saying I expect him to use them, but if anything, were the desire there, genocide on a massive scale is easier than it's ever been.

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Hitler was a genious. an absolute brilliant political leader. tainted by hate.
I'm curious.. to what extent do you think Hitler's genius is impossible to seperate from hatred.

To put it another way, could Hitler have risen to power in the way that he did WITHOUT hatred? Not just his hatred of the Jews, which if anything was a sort of a side issue in the political sense, but in the sense that his platform was based on a sense of betrayal of the German people by their neighbors, and spite and malice towards them.

To my mind, Hitler was a great opportunist. The economic and social climate in Germany created the perfect atmosphere for his vitriol. And no doubt, Hitler took advantage of it.. so in that sense you could call him a genius, but I think you'd have to admit he was an evil genius. Your statement seems to seperate his morality (or lack thereof) from his rise to power, and I don't think you can do that.
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anyways, Bush as a 'leader' there is no comparison. BUT, bush is just a role player for the carlyel Pnac (plan for the new american century) groups.
Are you speaking of the Carlyle group, gloval equity investment firm and the Pnac, Proceddings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA?
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yea, they only had thousands of employees at wtc. not to mention the thousands of tourists every day at the wtc.

i can't fucking believe the stupidity in the world. you're willing to believe they took down the wtc and orchestrated 9/11, but apparently it's too hard to plant a wmd in iraq?

ya know when they invaded iraq? the actual start of the invasion and they were sweeping across the country unstopped by the pathetic iraqi army?

they could have planted it then. before there was any sort of organized insurgent activity.

the whole world watching iraq? yea, because cnn was just roving all about in the middle of a CLASSIFIED WARZONE.

your very explanation is flawed. if you're powerful enough to orchestrate 9/11, you're obviously up there in the us govt. thus you have just as much power/control over the us army. DUUUUUR.


flawed?...no,only in contrast to your opinion.

those thousands of employees wouldnt think anything much of seemingly 'routine' maintenance vans and workers would they? evan though non were scheduled for that day.

have you ever seen a 767 in real life? there fucking tiny. there is no way that just one took down a tower building like the wtc towers. evan if one of those little bastards sliced through the center of one of the towers there IS NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL that it would cause all the floors bleow to collapes the way they did.......


take notice of the impact locations.....the entire bottom portion of what has regularly been said to be one of the strongest towers ever made is untouched. DO YOU REALLY think the wieght of the top 10% of each building caused the bottom portion to buckle like that? it should of just fallen off to the sides.

it has evan been said that the WTC was engineerd to withstand a plane hitting it.

"each one had been built to withstand the impact of a fully loaded, fully fueled Boeing 707" -Leslie Robertson WTC structural engineer.

if the lower portion of the buildings infact could not support the weight of the small top portion then it would of come down alot slower and much more gradual. not the near flawless prescision that occured.

'oh but the steel was melted by jet fule' they say...

melting point of steel is 1370 degrees C (2500°F).
Jet fule has a max burning temp of only 980 degrees C in a controlled enviroment. and Only a pathetic 260-315 degrees C of open air burning wich was the type of fire during 911

come on..dig a little deeper http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/how-hot.htm

if you really think that it was only planes that took the towers down your a fool.

if you really think that sectors within the US and global government did not know and did not have anything to do with this 'psyce attack' on the world then you are a fool

and why havent they planted wmd's in iraq yet? Gatherd from the infromation it seems purley political.

you know that there is a international community right? and when the US bypassed the UN and marched into iraq nearly every country critical of the US put iraq under a unprecedented media microscope unlike any other in history.

you really think its only cnn running around in iraq? please. iraq is a international affair.the attack on 911 was easy..it was in their own backyard against a docile american public...who fell complaceint in their bubble.

right now...with the 911 truth movement in full swing, its a little to hot for any wmd's to be planted.

Now, this is pure speculation, but i think at the highest level's they have already been found, just not disclosed. politically thats what i would do...wait till the next presdential election and insure a republican(pnac) whitehouse and Republican (pnac/carlyle) house majority.

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here we go again.

wtc was built to withstand 707's. those "tiny" 737's hadn't even been invented yet. so booom goes that one.

have you ever seen the interior pics of a building set up for demo? it's a spiders nest of non stop wires and charges. you can barely walk 5 feet without ducking under something. but i guess the whole building would have just ignored that. (and no you can't control demo something with only 1 floor of explosives) this is a site that had previously been hit by terrorists, so don't act like they didn't take security seriously at wtc.

"melting point of steel is 1370 degrees C (2500°F).
Jet fule has a max burning temp of only 980 degrees C in a controlled enviroment. and Only a pathetic 260-315 degrees C of open air burning wich was the type of fire during 911"

HEY ENGINEER. you do understand for steel to lose its' strength, it doesn't have to melt to the point of liquid right? do you understand that any heat causes metal to lose strength? btw: those #'s for jetfuel burning's all fine and dandy, but it wasn't just jet fuel. there was all the shit in the wtc itself that adds to the temperature. think about how much furniture/equipment there is in an office that size. .
open air burning? by open air, you mean IN AN OFFICE BUILDING? yea that's the same. oops another gaping hole.
are you honestly saying that a fire of 260-315 degrees has no effect on a buidling? by your bullshit you're saying that fire could have burned for years and the building wouldn't have come down because it's not close enough to the melting point. YEA FUCKING RIGHT.

INTERNATIONAL EFFORT? really, is that why the u.s. is doing all the work there? yea some countries have like 70 soldiers there, but you're saying ths all powerful u.s. govt cabal can't hoodwink some political cronies trying to gain favour with the u.s.? hence the "coalition"

ONCE AGAIN, please explain how you're so sure they could handle 9/11 without a single hitch. but over these past 3 years they have not even been able to get a single WMD into the country? or how about ANY FUCKING PROOF of any biological weapon? that would have been fine too.

i'm a blind fucking 9/11 toting drone. that's fine if you wanna believe that, but how blind are you to believe an administration so inept is not only capable of this(9/11), but not capable of something that would realistically be much easier(wmd planting).

btw: "9/11 truth movement in full swing" shit's been the exact same for 3 years. but i guess that's the same as full swing.

please dissect my post. shut me up. explain to me how 9/11 wasn't just a govt conspiracy, but a physics conspiracy, because there's a whole shitload of physics that all the kooks are ignoring.
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