Courses for music production?

[ƒORM]

Can anybody recommend some good quality courses I can take to fulfill my musical dreams? :D

I'm hoping someone here has taken a few of them.

I'm looking for a "quality" sound engineering/music production course that teaches programs like acid, sound forge, properllerhead, pro tools etc.



Does anyone know of any good instructors or classes?


TIA


fORM

[Filo]

I don't know too much bout this. Just that I know VFS offers a 3 day course for pro-tools, it's an alternative to spending the 20 000+ for the CDIS program. The downsid si the 3 day course is 1500 bucks.

[djastroglide]

i am sure for a lot less $$ prime or clay or someone could show you all you need to know in a few days.

acid, sound forge, reason etc are unbelievably simple....gettin the hang of pro tools, cubase and working with midi is the only really tricky part imho.

[ƒORM]

thanks for the tips and the pms i've received

[omega_image]

im assuming that you want some sort of certification behind you?

personally from what ive found and heard vfs is the way to go. im pretty sure that there is an extended course (or night school) if you can manage the time. let me know what you choose

[cheeseburger]

vancouver film school is silly redick expensive

i wish

[ƒORM]

Mostly to make beats, round up Vancouver's best talent and start a Westcoast F&K label.....we gotta make maves ppl :y:



fORM

[~god~]

i spent like 2 months to master reason by myself.
its the slow way to go.. but i learned almost everything. But the interesting fact is that I now do everything my own way - so when i show my friends theyre like wtf did you do?? you coulda done it this way.. blah blah.. its pretty unique now.
despite the fact that its free! :D

respect.

[krisamata]

either cdis
or pavi

http://www.pacificav.com/main.html

pavi is a new school with brand new equipment!!
go take a tour!!!

[beatRenegade]

i checked out the cdis info session a while ago, they got production in there, but then it kinda leads more into cartoon background music, or the music behind movies and stuff....checked out trebas last year, they looked dope, but they outta biz now, and ive only heard of pavi....some music institute.....

[Revolver]

well.....

I'M about to graduate from douglas college with a advanced diploma in live and studio engineering.

BY FAR THE BEST MOVE I HAVE EVER MADE!!!!!!.

I checked out all the local schools such as cdis, trebas,vfs,columbia and evan scoped out full sail, the conservatory in arizona and aes.

For the price/value and instruction douglas is by far the best.

The main instructor is a guy by the name of greg reid and is one of the most flawless engineers i have ever met and it seems that anybody who is anybody knows him....hes evan a rep for roland canada.

I SAVED SO MUCH MONEY! by not going to shit schools like cdis or columbia....in fact, i often run into students from there and they dont seem quiet up to par in the knowldge, chops department.

since i saved all that money...i now have a huge personal loan(not a student one) comming my way that i am investing back into my own setup....besides, a audio engineering degree is utterly wothless in the real world of pro-audio. dont let cids or pavi trick you into thinking that you need their overpriced programs in order to get a job.

its not that i spite those schools or anything but i feel they are just a huge cash grab.

definatly chack out douglas college.

***but if you just want to make beats in acid and reason, fuck call someone over to show you how. thats really all you need.

but to properly mix engineer and master a production...further education is a viable step to take.

[dj4mula]

My friend is at columbia and he's slowly learning reason. Word! Any questions I have I will forward through him.

But yet, good question Lex. I would love to start producing some of my own tracks but im having problems with Reason. Can anyone recommened a good midi controller?

[krisamata]

Originally posted by beatRenegade
i checked out the cdis info session a while ago, they got production in there, but then it kinda leads more into cartoon background music, or the music behind movies and stuff....checked out trebas last year, they looked dope, but they outta biz now, and ive only heard of pavi....some music institute.....

trebas is still open in montreal and quebec, and those ones will stay open. those campuses have the nicer equipment as well. but i still wouldnt recommend it, since they fucked me over.


also if you are willing to go somewhere else...like t-dot. then check out ...fuck i forgot the name...i'll get back to you on it hahahaha...

[Velcro]

You want to spend $10g+ to have someone show you how to make electronic dance music?

riiiight.....

As mentioned before, just put in the time and learn it yourself. Read a manual or two and start practising.

[ƒORM]

Thanks everyone for the input :y:

I've got a couple leads i'm working on and I hope this one lead comes through and i start the learning process. I've spent some time mucking around on reason but i find I burn out easy when i'm trying to reconstruct an idea and hit a barricade because I can't program the effect i'm after. I'm hoping some one on one will get me cruising in the right direction.

I'll definitely let you all know how things are going and obviously share my progress with ya as we work on some tracks.



fORM

[Revolver]

^good luck form...it can get a bit frustrating to maintain focus on a track esp. in a program like reason.

dj4mual:any midi enabeld key board will work....but if you would like full controll of soft synth parameters(filters ,ocilators) then i would go for a oxygen8 controller

check out http://www.midiman.net/

[manos_one]

I dont recommend them at all , id take the money and invest into equipment and some books and sit in there and practice. You do learn a substantial amount from the courses in regards to theory and recording and u get a certificate from it. As for getting taught how to actually "produce" they dont teach that. that comes from practising and messing around for 8 hours trying to get the perfect sound. If you look at the ratio to graduating students too jobs its rather low.

[decypher]

im new to this production stuff, but it fascinates me and i wanna learn all i can...can someone refer me to a website or a book that can teach me the different software/hardware tools commonly used in the process and how they interact with one another? one more question... so a midi controller... u can assign the knobs on the midi controller to manipulate certain knobs in a software program like reason?... and use the keys to program chords, or drum patterns? thanks for the help!

[Revolver]

i think manos summed it all up perfectly....

heres some links to various rescources i use,

http://www.dancetech.com
http://sf.reasonfreaks.com/
http://spinwarp.com/
http://www.peff.com/
http://www.recordproduction.com/ this one is the best i have ever found.

http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/tech_...ackground.html
http://www.fadervision.com/
http://gearslutz.com/board/index.php3 this one is really heavy weight.

good luck no1d. have fun

[soma]

all of these schools are fucking espensive. and yes you get what you pay for most of the time. I completed a program at CDIS with covered studio engineering, protools mixing, midi technology, live sound, music theory all that shit. and I spent a furtune going there.....every dollar was well spent.

if you are the type to dump your whole life in to school,
if you are that passionate about being a recording artist/dj/producer/pastey looking guy who works at the studio, that all that you do is practice, learn and use the equipment that you have acess to as a student.

then spend the money and enjoy every minute of it.

if all you require is access to the dope new gear and the know how to use it. Then check out the private colleges

but if you just think it would be cool to do any of the above^ then maybe you should consider were you want to put your money.

I did my program and my student loan officer is always happy to hear from me every month...

c'est la vi

[omnirecords]

Originally posted by revolver
I SAVED SO MUCH MONEY! by not going to shit schools like cdis or columbia....in fact, i often run into students from there and they dont seem quiet up to par in the knowldge, chops department.

obviously, the students from cdis that you have met aren't very far in their programs.

[soma]

^ :kam: i think so